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automan
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irc refuge camp 2
#16763214 - 08/30/12 10:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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/server irc.shroomin.org /join #shroomery /join #cultivation
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Re: irc refuge camp [Re: automan]
#16766612 - 08/31/12 03:53 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Who's running this IRC?
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luvdemshrooms
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If it's not the Shroomery, it shouldn't be stickied.
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Be quiet.
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luvdemshrooms
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Right.
-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Automan runs it, so, close enough.
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Just as long as it's admin'ed (not just oper'ed) by staff members here.
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In the day it was so cool
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automan
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FOM said: Just as long as it's admin'ed (not just oper'ed) by staff members here.
we are just ops, not admin. we dont have any control at the server layer. mav recommended the servers and the guy that runs it has been gracious enough to let us set up our refuge camp there.
i unstickied the thread
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Gretchenmeister
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Re: irc refuge camp [Re: automan] 2
#16767825 - 08/31/12 07:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Automan thank you. You have done tons for Shroomery over the years. I hope the rest of our resident chat family finds their way over to the server...then again...maybe some of them decided to go find jobs since chats been down so long...
Anyway, I can't say thank you enough for your elder leadership in the community.
MUCH LOVE<3 Gretch
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Re: irc refuge camp [Re: automan]
#16767830 - 08/31/12 07:41 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm only concerned that the admin might be shady and hand over user ip's to various script kiddies.
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automan
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FOM said: I'm only concerned that the admin might be shady and hand over user ip's to various script kiddies. 
if that care is deep, how about reopening shroomery irc
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Re: irc refuge camp [Re: automan]
#16767878 - 08/31/12 07:50 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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You know the potential problem with that.
Don't need to get attacked.
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automan
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Gretchenmeister said: Automan thank you. You have done tons for Shroomery over the years. I hope the rest of our resident chat family finds their way over to the server...then again...maybe some of them decided to go find jobs since chats been down so long...
Anyway, I can't say thank you enough for your elder leadership in the community.
MUCH LOVE<3 Gretch
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Re: irc refuge camp [Re: automan]
#16768946 - 08/31/12 11:56 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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automan said:
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FOM said: Just as long as it's admin'ed (not just oper'ed) by staff members here.
we are just ops, not admin. we dont have any control at the server layer. mav recommended the servers and the guy that runs it has been gracious enough to let us set up our refuge camp there.
i unstickied the thread
I guess I spoke prematurely.
Still greatly appreciated. I like that Michael guy.
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lesstutrey
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If it's really going to be issue with us using someone else's server i could open one up in the near future. been a while since i did an ircd config file. I already have the server, it's not much issue, but i'd rather not do that, in that manner.. Amazes me we're so afraid of DDoS yet the ircd is run off something with no girth to its pipe.
A bunch of fragmented servers seems to be the wrong idea, which is what is happening to the former shroomery IRC users, going to different servers and setting up shop. If there are so many people willing to create servers why not create an actual network on pipes that can take the DDoS these chaps are putting out, on servers where the DDoS would also be handled by the dedicated server or VPS location's administrators. I know it is hard to pick out who would be a safe admin, but i think the IRC staff is capable of making these decisions. We're a very tight knit bunch.
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Gretchenmeister
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lesstutrey said: If it's really going to be issue with us using someone else's server i could open one up in the near future. been a while since i did an ircd config file. I already have the server, it's not much issue, but i'd rather not do that, in that manner.. Amazes me we're so afraid of DDoS yet the ircd is run off something with no girth to its pipe.
A bunch of fragmented servers seems to be the wrong idea, which is what is happening to the former shroomery IRC users, going to different servers and setting up shop. If there are so many people willing to create servers why not create an actual network on pipes that can take the DDoS these chaps are putting out, on servers where the DDoS would also be handled by the dedicated server or VPS location's administrators. I know it is hard to pick out who would be a safe admin, but i think the IRC staff is capable of making these decisions. We're a very tight knit bunch.
I love you man.
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Thanks for the chat! Life was going somewhere for once, now since the chat is back i've become less productive. Isn't that awesome? 
I'm all about it.
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Maverick
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I'm in support for this network, until we either a. get a new server setup, or b, link in with this network altogether. I'll explain my reasoning below why I think linking into a good network might be a viable option, though this is all up to admins and such.
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luvdemshrooms said: If it's not the Shroomery, it shouldn't be stickied.

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FOM said: Just as long as it's admin'ed (not just oper'ed) by staff members here.
There are multiple servers on this network, they are run by good people, it's a lot more secure than you would think, they don't necessarily all have to be under Shroomery control, unless you're willing to donate money for a future server altogether, as we don't own the servers. I'd take this server over anything soli set up.
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FOM said: You know the potential problem with that.
Don't need to get attacked.
The potential for attack is no greater than on our own special server. We've already seen that happen in the past, more than just with this attack. The IRC server has been attacked a multitude of times over the years, this just being one of the worst.
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FOM said: I'm only concerned that the admin might be shady and hand over user ip's to various script kiddies. 
I wouldn't worry too much about that- as I mentioned the people on this network are good people, and they aren't going to screw anyone over or get butthurt about other's opinions, in fact they tend to stick to their own channels. You won't have anything to worry about as far as that goes.
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lesstutrey said: If it's really going to be issue with us using someone else's server i could open one up in the near future. been a while since i did an ircd config file. I already have the server, it's not much issue, but i'd rather not do that, in that manner.. Amazes me we're so afraid of DDoS yet the ircd is run off something with no girth to its pipe.
A bunch of fragmented servers seems to be the wrong idea, which is what is happening to the former shroomery IRC users, going to different servers and setting up shop. If there are so many people willing to create servers why not create an actual network on pipes that can take the DDoS these chaps are putting out, on servers where the DDoS would also be handled by the dedicated server or VPS location's administrators. I know it is hard to pick out who would be a safe admin, but i think the IRC staff is capable of making these decisions. We're a very tight knit bunch.
Agreed, though having multiple servers linked together in a network helps eliminate DDoS attacks, as if one server is brought down you've still got multiple others running in which users can connect. It would take a massive botnet to take down a multi-server IRC network, vs a tiny pipeline IRC network that's also run off a main website network.
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Re: irc refuge camp [Re: Maverick]
#16770989 - 09/01/12 12:16 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Maverick said:
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FOM said: You know the potential problem with that.
Don't need to get attacked.
The potential for attack is no greater than on our own special server. We've already seen that happen in the past, more than just with this attack. The IRC server has been attacked a multitude of times over the years, this just being one of the worst.
To build on Maverick's reply, as this train of thought has been rustling my jimmies a bit, in a day's time we hurt a multitude of butts in all sorts of interesting manners. If we're so afraid of a member's butthurtedness leading to recourse, we may as well take the site down. As we saw, any number of s'kids can get access to a botnet. So where do we draw the line of risk management, since after all, we couldn't possibly know who the person we're offending is on or off the forums. Not to mention having been in the IRC, it seems they run a tight ship there. I think Ythan, or whoever was moreso responsible for the IRC, should at least entertain the idea. Go in and chat with the admins. Inquire about past experience, server specs, and server setup; I did and do not see any readily apparent holes.
Okay, I'm done now.
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