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frizzed
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silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find.
#1674114 - 06/30/03 01:56 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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1can you spawn wbs into MORE pasturized wbs and straw(use these as the substrate)?
2whats it called when you put a jar of white spawn into the mix of straw?
3whats the non-nutritive layer you put on top called?
4how deep is appropriate for a straw based substrate?
5do you need poo to go with that straw? lime?
6should a noobee try 2 strains at once or stick with 1?
im sure ill be back with more questions. thank you.
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shirley knott
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: frizzed]
#1674133 - 06/30/03 02:07 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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1. you mean use the gone-white straw as spawn into more pasteurised straw? yes, if you're supercareful, but it's not recommended. don't pasteurise the birdseed. 2. 'spawning' 3. the casing layer 4. substrate - up to about 6 inches, casing layer, about 1/4 the substrate thickness 5. you don't need poo, but it can help. lime? no. 6. try as many as you have space for - but don't mix em in the same substrate sk
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frizzed
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: shirley knott]
#1674176 - 06/30/03 02:26 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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#7...shake spawn(wbs) until its all white(meaning you might shake before fully colonized but after innoculation)? or shake once to mix it up...then let it sit till fully colonized?
thanks shirley.
i think my friend and his pet skunk are just about ready...:)
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: frizzed]
#1674191 - 06/30/03 02:31 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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people argue that one all night. i'd go with the latter - the more you shake, the more you damage it and risk mixing in a contam that was self-contained.
i shake once when the jar is still red hot, to distribute moisture; shake a second time straight after inoculation to spread the spores (some don't do this but instead aim at the jar sides); then sometimes i shake a third time at about 20% colonisation. but sometimes they don't survive this third shaking.
np, i enjoy it. i'm hogging all the easy qs!
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: frizzed]
#1674200 - 06/30/03 02:34 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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blahahahahhaaha
I like that
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: frizzed]
#1674210 - 06/30/03 02:36 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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j/k btw.
Welcome to the Shroomery, glad one of our finer members could help you 
Please click here, to visit our FAQ. You will be quite impressed with the knowlage you can gain here 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/faq2.php
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: frizzed]
#1674310 - 06/30/03 03:22 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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it is advisable to mix your straw with poo. an all straw substrate is very nutritious from the start, but subsequent flushes will be smaller and smaller. By adding poo, you supplement the nutrients in the substrate as well as aerating and creating a more effective contam barrier.
casing layers should be at least an inch, but no more than 6 inches or so. Lime is beneficial in casings that contain peat moss, as it corrects the ph balance and helps ward off contamination. Peat by nature is slightly acidic. Lime acts as a base to neutralize and bring the ph to a more habiable level for mycal growth.
your first couple q's were answered already.
If this is your first time growing I suggest a straight casing (50/50+) with pf grain jars. after a couple grows you'll learn what healthy mycelia look like, what conatms look like, and how everything should look, sound and smell like for fruiting to occur. then bulk substrates should be no prob.
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: soochi]
#1674367 - 06/30/03 03:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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>casing layers should be at least an inch, but no more than 6 inches or so.
6 inches??!!
With P. cubensis, anything above 2 inch is too much, most times 1 inch will be more than plenty. Read http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23441
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: Anno]
#1674459 - 06/30/03 04:23 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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6 inch casing seems a bit over excessive, heh.
I'd say half-inch is the minimum. You only need enough casing so you don't see the substrate it's covering.
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Re: silly noobie questions after reading all teks i could find. [Re: soochi]
#1674565 - 06/30/03 04:59 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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i stand corrected. i trippin'
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