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Parameters of composted horse manure
    #1672976 - 06/30/03 04:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hi all!

I could finally find some composted horse manure in a grow shop. The bag indicates the following:
60 % organic content
40 % Relative Humidity
PH: 7.

Are these values right for mushroom cultivation? In this case, what do you recommend for pasteurizing the manure?

The main problem I think is to adjust the moisture to a right value. That 40% of RH means that the 40% of the 50 liters of the bag is water? In this case, I think the moisture shouldn't be modified.

I was thinking in putting a zip bag full of manure in the oven at 80?C for 2 hours and then mixing with the colonized rye. (1 to 10 parts) Should this work?

Thank you! - and sorry, my english is not very good....


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Re: Parameters of composted horse manure [Re: Champi]
    #1673000 - 06/30/03 04:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I would pasteurize the manure before using it.

Stick into a pillow-case, tie off the top, set in 175F degree water for an hour and drain overnight. Squeeze/drip dry the excess water and then you can spawn your grain into it.

You could spawn it into a plastic bag, but, you should just dump it into a container, and let it colonize in there. Then you can just add your casing (or not) and set into fruiting.


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Re: Parameters of composted horse manure [Re: angryshroom]
    #1673422 - 06/30/03 08:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you!

I have read a tek which uses oven bags to pasteurize. At home it's very difficult to drain a pillowcase

Would that tek work? The tek starts with dry compost, mix it with 10-30% vermiculite, add water, fill in the bags and then to the oven for 2 hours (at 80?C)

Is it very important to start with the dry compost? What's the best way to dry the compost? If it's dried outdoor, I think many spores and stuff could fall in the compost...



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Re: Parameters of composted horse manure [Re: Champi]
    #1673490 - 06/30/03 10:00 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

80?C is too much, consider 70?C.

>Is it very important to start with the dry compost?

Not in your case, this applies only to fresh dung. Yours is already composted. It doesn?t have to be dry.


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Re: Parameters of composted horse manure [Re: Anno]
    #1679098 - 07/02/03 05:09 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you very much Anno!!!

Your advice is always welcome... very welcome.

Another question which I couldn't see the answer in the FAQ is the measure of moisture the manure must have.

If, for example in the PF-TEK the water must be 1/4 of the volume, what is the perfect water content for the manure? In the FAQ only refers to this seeing the result (not too wet) but not with values.

Has anybody a recipe for adding the correct quantity of water to the manure?  :confused:

PD: The high temperatures in Spain (25?c night  38?c day) is making the casings to have massive pinsets, and all abort  :crazy:

 


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