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SleeveOfWizard
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Just ordered some B. Caapi...
#16586364 - 07/25/12 01:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ordered 4oz of dried leaves and 4oz of powdered bark...
Going to try brewing shroom tea and add the powdered bark, and also try eating some shrooms and smoking some weed/caapi blend..
Should be fun..
-------------------- Having sex with a condom on is like eating a steak with a baloon on your tongue. My 1st grow, Thai Tanic (here) My 2nd grow, Bannana Pine (here) Now I'm putting on my big boy pants and attempting grains.. (here)
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muistrue
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Powdered bark or powdered vine? Surely you meant vine. I recently made some mushroom ayahuasca myself, I detailed the brewing process in this thread.
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SleeveOfWizard
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Re: Just ordered some B. Caapi... [Re: muistrue]
#16587007 - 07/25/12 03:45 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes, vine not bark (I mush have been thinking mimosa hostilis )
I have been wanting to try teas for quite some time, but the idea of a shorter timeframe doesnt appeal to me, I would prefer to lengthen the timeframe, so this should provide the best of both worlds..
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SleeveOfWizard
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well I picked up my package today and now I'm trying to figure out the best method of ingestion...
I have 2g of dry aborts and thats all I have left from my grow (starting another tomorrow, so in a month I'll have more to experament with)
So I was considering doing a lemon tek brew, and also brewing in 2g of ground yellow b. cappi vine. Then drinking it on an empty stomach..
During the trip I may smoke a fat joint of 75/25 b.caapi leaf/weed blend..
It says not to ingest with chocolate, nuts, cheese, etc. is this an over-exaggeration? If I smoke a caapi joint and eat a few squares of chocolate, will I yak it all up???
Any recommendations for a good psilohuasca??
-------------------- Having sex with a condom on is like eating a steak with a baloon on your tongue. My 1st grow, Thai Tanic (here) My 2nd grow, Bannana Pine (here) Now I'm putting on my big boy pants and attempting grains.. (here)
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ChubbyPitbull
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Powder is a little harder to work with than shredded, as there will be a lot of leftover residue/sludge.. Although some people don't like to decant and attest to drinking that residue/sludge for the real effects! Boil the vine at 3x pulls @ 3 hrs each, add a tsp of white vinegar or lemon to each boil to acidify- then reduce to about 75-125mL. Save it in the fridge in a sterilized jar. It will last months... But 4 ozs is really only about two, three doses max.
Caapi tea is some vile stuff IMO. Be warned. I find drinking cactus to be a walk in the park compared to a caapi brew.
Then with your leaves you can boil them also in a separate pot for about 3x pulls @ only 2hrs each(or do the same time amount as your vine, might as well if you're cooking at the same period). Reduce to as low as you can and then add to 1gram of leaf material ina jar and let evap. If you choose 10grams of leaves to boil, then you will have 10x caapi or if you choose 20g, you will have 20x caapi. This can then be added to your smoking blends. Much better than throwing the straight leaf in there; as it doesn't taste very good with the amount you would have to use to get effects.
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SleeveOfWizard
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Thanks for the tips.
I'm eating crabcakes for an early dinner, then after a couple hrs I will experament with just the caapi alone. But I will brew enough to have more for the mushrooms..
I'll use alot of vine to a little water.. I can just add some honey to it then down it like a shot, and keep a tasty refreshing chaser nearby..
Seems like the main danger from the maoi is increased blood pressure.. I have a heart like a horse, and my blood pressure is more on the low side anyway, so I'm not terribly worried..
-------------------- Having sex with a condom on is like eating a steak with a baloon on your tongue. My 1st grow, Thai Tanic (here) My 2nd grow, Bannana Pine (here) Now I'm putting on my big boy pants and attempting grains.. (here)
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SleeveOfWizard
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OK.. Here is the method I'm using for brewing caapi tea..
I use 1oz of powdered vine, put in a saucepan and fill with just the minimum amount of water to mix with it, add a tbsp of lemon juice, and boil for 1hr. I pour that through a single coffee filter into a jar, squeeze the coffee filter, then pour the powder back into the saucepan, and repeat 2 times, pouring all 3 pulls into the same jar.
Then I will pour that jar into the now cleaned saucepan and boil it to reduce a little, I also add a tbsp of lemon juice, and steep the closed coffee filter with the powder in it, like a teabag while it reduces. then I pour this all back into the original jar..
How much of this should I drink? It will be reduced down to maybe 2x double shot glasses worth.. Should I drink half like 1hr before eating the shrooms, then drink the other half with my shroom tea? Is that too much caapi?
-------------------- Having sex with a condom on is like eating a steak with a baloon on your tongue. My 1st grow, Thai Tanic (here) My 2nd grow, Bannana Pine (here) Now I'm putting on my big boy pants and attempting grains.. (here)
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SleeveOfWizard
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reporting back before some poor soul attempts this...
I ingested the full brew made from 1oz powdered yellow vine. It was maybe 1/4cup.. So far so good.. this was 9:15 tasted awful, washed it down with some short shots of water.
9:30, I eat my 2 dry grams of mush.. so far so good..
10:00 on the dot I go from feeling totally fine (just noticing an annoying whirring in my ears) to rushing to the bathroom to throw up..
I spend the next full hour heaving and pouring sweat..
Now the real fun begins.. from 11-12 I laid in bed just trying to get comfortable, listening to music, watching a BBC documentary.. My heart is POUNDING. Not terribly fast, but quick, and really high pressure.
Several years ago my older brother suffered a severe hemorraghic stroke, which has left him seriously disabled.. Now I'm getting worried, so I'm trying to control my blood pressure through calm deep breaths...
Then I stop to notice it so much, it subsides.. Then several minutes later, my hands and feet start tingling, my brain starts tingling like I've been holding my breath too long. I start breathing calm deep breaths, but it helps only a little.. Then I check my pulse, it feels like a scared mouse heart. Its beating fast, but scary shallow. Now I'm starting to freak out, I literally have to get out of bed and pace quickly to keep my heart from stopping.. my arms and legs kept tingling to the point it was painful, i was getting very tired...
And stupid me, I ended up going to the ER.. they gave me atiavan, and 2 IV bags. gave me a breather mask, ekg, and some other shit..
I had almost lethal doses of co2 in my blood, which is why there was tingling, and this was then made worse by my hyperventilating.. I stayed there for 4hrs, they called my mom for me.
So now I'm at home still feeling like shit, but at least my heart is pumping properly, and I'm no longer forgetting to breath..
They said I was overreacting to the effects, which exacerbated the situation, but if I had stayed home, there is a good chance I could have kept flooding myself with co2 and actually had a stroke...
Not fun times..
Plus now I'm over at my folks house tonight, so I'm looking forward to the morning with my mom as well...
As far as caapi goes, been there done that, see ya pimpin.
I will try smoking the leaves, just a small dose, but I dont expect to be fucking around with maois anymore...
I would have had so much more fun if I just ate those 2g by themselves...
-------------------- Having sex with a condom on is like eating a steak with a baloon on your tongue. My 1st grow, Thai Tanic (here) My 2nd grow, Bannana Pine (here) Now I'm putting on my big boy pants and attempting grains.. (here)
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Lifted1
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Glad you're still here dude.
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Djchrist
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HarryL
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Re: Just ordered some B. Caapi... [Re: Djchrist]
#16698059 - 08/14/12 10:12 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Wow... Never heard of anyone reacting that way to b caapi Agree... Glad you are with us...
Sounds like a panic attack... Causing hyperventilation Possible MAOI interaction... Food or drug
That is rough dude ... Stupid question... But Did you strain and filter the brew?
Assuming you were following the MAOI diet and medication restrictions?
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SleeveOfWizard
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Re: Just ordered some B. Caapi... [Re: HarryL]
#16699195 - 08/14/12 02:22 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I followed the MAOI diet for 2 days prior. I strained through coffee filters. I'm thinking what I did was: 1. 1oz was way too much for a maiden voyage, and for what I was trying to achieve. 2. I downed the pH too much the entire brew process, maybe extracting other compounds as well. 3. Cooked the process too long, also possible extracting unwanted material
It definitely evolved into a serious panic attack, but there were also some pretty extreme adverse effects. I've been smoking some changa/herb blend, and its okay, but the bitterness almost outweighs the effects. I just am going to make sure I start exercising again, and make sure I feel healthy before trying any high doses.
I just want the potential explorers to be wary. It definitely had a negative vibe to it, so start with VERY small doses to just try it out..
-------------------- Having sex with a condom on is like eating a steak with a baloon on your tongue. My 1st grow, Thai Tanic (here) My 2nd grow, Bannana Pine (here) Now I'm putting on my big boy pants and attempting grains.. (here)
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lurkmode
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what more did you learn from your experience?
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SleeveOfWizard
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Re: Just ordered some B. Caapi... [Re: lurkmode]
#16700403 - 08/14/12 06:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
lurkmode said: what more did you learn from your experience?
I'm not a fan of the maoi.. I'll stick with lots of shrooms and weed if I need more..
I'll try smoking changa with shrooms, but I dont think it will be as extreme..
-------------------- Having sex with a condom on is like eating a steak with a baloon on your tongue. My 1st grow, Thai Tanic (here) My 2nd grow, Bannana Pine (here) Now I'm putting on my big boy pants and attempting grains.. (here)
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HarryL
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I tend to use 2 oz... Have never had that happen... Did you follow the MAOI drug restrictions for a week?
Maybe it's just not for you my man.... Stick with non MAOIs
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