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Question About 25C-Nbome
    #15772207 - 02/07/12 04:18 AM (12 years, 19 days ago)

In the presence of my massive failure to acquire a legitimate source for LSD, i have turned to the RC market in a chance of acquiring a close analogue. from what i have read Nbome is the closest there is that also has the benefit of being able to be legally shipped to the USA. i believe i have found a legitimate source for this online. at least one i am willing to take a $30-$50 gamble on. seeing as how i have wasted hundreds of dollars on fake LSD in the past 6 months i am short on options.

so my question to the community is; which is my better option? 25I-Nbome or 25C-Nbome?

i have read in trip reports that 25C-Nbome is a closer analogue to LSD, as well as having the added benefit of being sublingually active on blotter paper. as i have read 25I-Nbome needs to be insuffulated or freebased to be active. this information could be incorrect, i welcome any criticism/correction on this point. also i have heard that it may be better to order the HCL instead of the blotters, is this true? do some companies skimp on the blotters or something? i dont know why this would be true unless that is a fact. i would trust the manufacturer laying a sheet over myself at home with no mg scale at my disposal... so it seems i have no choice unless i ordered the HCL and eyeballed a dose to snort or something which seems dangerous to me. still i will take any recommendation into consideration.

ANY experience with this RC is welcomed. i cant have enough information on this subject as i am meticulous with researching any chemical i decide to put in my body. but from everything i have read, 25C-Nbome sounds like something i will LOVE.

to any that have done this chemical, what is the body high like? mellow or speedy? i would hope mellow because i dont much like stimulants anymore. from what i hear if it really is like LSD i will be happy, even if it is half as potent i will have what i want. but it seems to be active in the 100-200mcg range and the blotters i will be purchasing are 400mcg so one tab should send me flying i hope. i enjoy intense visuals and long duration so this shouldnt be a problem, although i may take 200mcg just to test the waters, as i have heard the more Nbome you take (approaching 1mg) the higher the risk for bad physical complications arise.


TL;DR - which is more like LSD, or which is more bang for my buck, 25C-Nbome or 25I-Nbome? Blotter or HCL?

any input is appreciated thank you guys so much.


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: xAbsolut Zero]
    #15772371 - 02/07/12 05:35 AM (12 years, 19 days ago)

Neither of those compounds are analogs of LSD, they are phens not tryptamines :shrug:

Both compounds require HPBCD to be active sublingually. If you are buying tabs they are "complexed" with HPBCD

If you were to eyeball a dose of either of these compounds I would call you extremely dumb and / or immature, straight up stupid actually. You would likely pay by having a horrifying experience.


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: xAbsolut Zero]
    #15772441 - 02/07/12 06:10 AM (12 years, 19 days ago)

crazy i was just looking over google for info and came across this.  I'm about to order some and this was just posted.

was looking for info on dissolving the hcl into blotters myself...well off for more searching...


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #15772534 - 02/07/12 06:57 AM (12 years, 19 days ago)

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LongStrangeTrip said:
Neither of those compounds are analogs of LSD, they are phens not tryptamines :shrug:

Both compounds require HPBCD to be active sublingually. If you are buying tabs they are "complexed" with HPBCD

If you were to eyeball a dose of either of these compounds I would call you extremely dumb and / or immature, straight up stupid actually. You would likely pay by having a horrifying experience.




i didnt mean to make it sound like i thought they were actually analogues of LSD themselves, i was merely trying to say that Nbome mimics the visuals of LSD the best out of all the RC's available.

i wouldnt ever try to eyeball a mcg dose, that was more of a joke that i added into the post after i had it typed up in the fist place. i dont like to think of myself as straight up stupid or immature. i think someone like that wouldnt even know of Nbome in the first place, or someone like that would take huge amounts of it with no research whatsoever. but whatever i digress.

so these tabs i am buying are "complexed" with another substance required to make this compound sublingually active? even though there is no mention of this HPBCD anywhere in the description of the compound or product i am buying? how can i be sure that this HPBCD is on the blotter as well? do i have to order some of that in addition to the Nbome just to make sure i have it as well? i dont even know what HPBCD is and a precursory google search didnt get me anywhere, oh well i hope someone can enlighten me...


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: xAbsolut Zero]
    #15772577 - 02/07/12 07:23 AM (12 years, 19 days ago)

Without HPBCD you could not take the chems sublingually, so yes you are guaranteed to get it on your blotter.

HPBCD is inactive (should cause you no worries); it binds to the compound in such a way that allows for sublingual absorption, it has nothing to do with the effects you will get from 25X.

And good, I am glad your not going to eyeball a dose :laugh:

If you are looking for something that is LSD like, you will probably enjoy it, but it honestly is very unique. Calling it "analogous" to LSD is not being very honest; it was not created / synthed to "BE LIKE" LSD, it was studied and synthed for its own merits.

Dr David Nichols did research on the chem in its use as an anti-depressant at Purdue, and used it on studies dealing with 5HTA2 receptor antagonists.

If you purchase, you will be in for a UNIQUE experience, not a "mimic" of an LSD experience. If you want to do something like LSD, your best bet is LSD.

DON'T STOP SEARCHING!!! LSD is incredible, keep up the good fight till you find it :wink:


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #15772603 - 02/07/12 07:36 AM (12 years, 19 days ago)

Quote:

LongStrangeTrip said:
Without HPBCD you could not take the chems sublingually, so yes you are guaranteed to get it on your blotter.

HPBCD is inactive (should cause you no worries); it binds to the compound in such a way that allows for sublingual absorption, it has nothing to do with the effects you will get from 25X.

And good, I am glad your not going to eyeball a dose :laugh:

If you are looking for something that is LSD like, you will probably enjoy it, but it honestly is very unique. Calling it "analogous" to LSD is not being very honest; it was not created / synthed to "BE LIKE" LSD, it was studied and synthed for its own merits.

Dr David Nichols did research on the chem in its use as an anti-depressant at Purdue, and used it on studies dealing with 5HTA2 receptor antagonists.

If you purchase, you will be in for a UNIQUE experience, not a "mimic" of an LSD experience. If you want to do something like LSD, your best bet is LSD.

DON'T STOP SEARCHING!!! LSD is incredible, keep up the good fight till you find it :wink:




ahh i made a mistake when i googled HPBCD and got the acronym messed up as i am tired lol. i have been researching it for the past 20 minutes and i have a good idea of what it does and its purpose to make non water soluble things water soluble. basically at least is the gist of it from what i read haha.

the only reason i ask if the blotters i will be ordering are complexed with HPBCD when it is not stated specifically that they are, is that obviously Nbome is NOT sold for human consumption, so why would they complex the Nbome with HPBCD in the first place if the only reason you would do that is to make it orally active in humans lol seems to me like if they were true to what they say they would specifically NOT complex the blotter to deter human consumption. if this was the case i would be sad, because this sounds like an amazing experience and i do understand it is unique from LSD, i will not be disappointed expecting an LSD trip and getting a unique experience.

i think i am misunderstood when i say i am looking for an LSD analogue, i mean LSD is the most profound experience i have ever had, and i know nothing will be EXACTLY like that. but i would love to try a compound with similar visuals at least. Nbome sounds like the ticket. the only one time in the past 6 years did lucy knock on my door and she has been impossible to find. not to mention a gigantic waste of money trying to find. i am yearning for another experience whether it be similar or unique i dont mind. i just want to open my mind to a new compound the time seems right.

i just want to make sure this compound will do the job, and this HPBCD thing has got me on edge hoping i do not waste my money. it seems if i were to order some of this HPBCD how would i even go about the process of complexing it myself that would seem impossible especially without proper tools and the fact that the Nbome would be pre layed on paper.... :confused:


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #16692543 - 08/13/12 10:35 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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LongStrangeTrip said:
Without HPBCD you could not take the chems sublingually, so yes you are guaranteed to get it on your blotter.




Not trying to be rude, but that's not true. I've had uncomplexed blotters and complexed blotters, and the only difference is that the uncomplexed blotters need to be held in longer (40 minutes+) whereas the complexed blotters start working within 15 minutes due to higher bio availability.


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: gardenofeden]
    #16693359 - 08/13/12 01:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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gardenofeden said:
Quote:

LongStrangeTrip said:
Without HPBCD you could not take the chems sublingually, so yes you are guaranteed to get it on your blotter.




Not trying to be rude, but that's not true. I've had uncomplexed blotters and complexed blotters, and the only difference is that the uncomplexed blotters need to be held in longer (40 minutes+) whereas the complexed blotters start working within 15 minutes due to higher bio availability.




That may be true, Idk, I have only done complexed~

Take it for what its worth

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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
    #16693436 - 08/13/12 01:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I just dropped some 25C last night (1 mg, HPBCD-complexed blotter taken bucally). Have not taken my 25I yet, but 25C was very similar to acid. Had a slightly decreased duration and the come up was slightly unusual. Very color-centric. Colors were very interesting and very vivid. With my LSD trips, I was more interested in textures than color. There was also significant tactile stimulation -- I remember just hugging the desk because it felt so good. I was also able to speak very openly about some of the problems I was facing in my life (with a couple of close friends). I've never tried entactogens like MDxx or 2CX, but I suppose that this really had an entactogenic edge. Later in the trip, a lot of this entactogenic effect began to fade (especially after smoking some herb) and I began entering a very crazy head space where my ideas were... Circular if that makes any sense. Everything seemed perfectly circular. There was also some more pronounced anxiety on the come up than I've had with 180 ug of good LSD. Other than that, the experience was pretty good. Just be prepared for some terrible headaches on the comedown. This stuff leaves you absolutely fried.


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: aperson444]
    #16693836 - 08/13/12 03:00 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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aperson444 said:
There was also significant tactile stimulation -- I remember just hugging the desk because it felt so good. I was also able to speak very openly about some of the problems I was facing in my life (with a couple of close friends).




Did any of these personal problems include the fact that you would rather hug your desk instead of your friends?


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Re: Question About 25C-Nbome [Re: 2c-gLee]
    #16695004 - 08/13/12 06:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Did any of these personal problems include the fact that you would rather hug your desk instead of your friends?




I was alone at home. So I really just felt more open about things. The tactile stimulation could only go as far as inanimate objects for this reason.


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