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COOKED101
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Confused, Think ive lost my soul
#16685759 - 08/12/12 02:46 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have recently put a post in the trip reports, labelled ear peircing blow P.subs melbourne. I would be very gratefull if people had a read of this post and any coments would muchley appreciated. Im not very good with computers and dont know how to transfer this post here, but i believe it is connected with this forum. Thanks for your time. I dont have the energy or time as it took me an hour or more the first time.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16685924 - 08/12/12 03:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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heres the link to your other thread here:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16685022
i wouldn't worry about anything too much, mushrooms can work in weird ways but are generally good for you rather than bad, in my opinion, usually ear piercing sounds can be like a carrier wave that induces an OBE but not sure thats what you had, it could've been some kind of blockage being cleared
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16686123 - 08/12/12 05:52 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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To me it seems, like some energy blockade just broke. Whatever you think happened, you should, and that is my advice, look at this with positivity. Cuz when we talk about shooms in general, its your mind set that creates the ride, in a way. Thats my 2cents. And btw, you cant lost your soul. Be sure about that.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: ivander]
#16691609 - 08/13/12 04:28 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Had the same feeling a while back, the first time I had a heavy trip. It dissipated pretty quickly in the face of engaging with the real world the next day, doing the things I do. Whatever the cause, don't assume your situation is permanent.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: sausages]
#16692099 - 08/13/12 08:35 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you have lost your soul, which absolutely happens to all of us, congratulations, now go look for it. They all parrot 'be true to yourself', but if you don't find your soul there, then 'be un-true to yourself'. I'm hanging with Catholics. It might be more common to lose parts of ones soul, rather than all of it, but I'd say I know that feeling where it seems that the whole damned thing is gone.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: sausages] 1
#16692186 - 08/13/12 09:07 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Thanks heaps for the replies, I come to the relisation that that i have been washed clean internally by this event and it was such a shell shock that i snapped my self out of the trip as soon as it happened, I have such a strong mind frame always been able to turn my trip to positive no matter what. It was such a different feeling that starting again inside I assumed the worst and was looking for answers where time is the answer and mistook the emptyness as bad but its for good. Now I get start again. The shrooms I took are from a batch that grow very slow and very big, I know now they are super strong along with the lemon tech and a super fast matabilism may have had something to with the eirpercing noise.One wave so big and strong and fast like a big spike in the body. Looking back if i swiched my mind off let it ride this may have been alot clearer. Slowely feeling better and taken this onboard. I have alot of love around me and support as my missuss has been studying wicca for many years(2nd degree) but does not take magic mushrooms, the smudged photos is a different issue that we are dealing with it with her groups help. It has given me even more respect for these gifts of nature. It just had me frazzeld as I have been to pure black before with my eyes open I mean just black nothin else and not felt like this. Thanks for your input and time.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16692449 - 08/13/12 10:16 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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In my opinion you may have lost/gain and entity. When under the influence of any drug the body becomes more vulnerable. Most of the time the drain in from getting a new one. Mediation will help. Try talking to the spirits. You can think to your self although a quiet whisper is better in my opinion. Let the spirit know it is dead and needs to move on(as it may not know this). Often times the spirit may be scared to move on. Tell them that they are safe and their family is waiting for them. This process can take time and repetition. If you simply have a malicious spirit or one that believes its helping you may need the help of a shaman who specializes in the spirit world. You can also talk the bad ones away it takes more time on your own. A good way to protect your self is when you feel the presence of an entity imagine a bright white light around you. This changes your energy and protects you for a short time. this can also be a good test. if you can't imagine the white light you already have a spirit or maybe multiple.
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usulpsychonaut said: If you have lost your soul, which absolutely happens to all of us, congratulations, now go look for it. They all parrot 'be true to yourself', but if you don't find your soul there, then 'be un-true to yourself'. I'm hanging with Catholics. It might be more common to lose parts of ones soul, rather than all of it, but I'd say I know that feeling where it seems that the whole damned thing is gone.
I'm sure the catholics will help you find yours. Especially the catholic girls. I grew up in a catholic neighborhood and I know.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: Icelander]
#16697530 - 08/14/12 07:11 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im sure plenty of nature and a clear head with lots of love will give me plenty of good spirit and drive to find my way and will give me a renewed sense on life. Mushrooms will come again but thats going to be up to mother nature to decide when with pure peacefullness.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16699316 - 08/14/12 02:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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COOKED101 said: I have recently put a post in the trip reports, labelled ear peircing blow P.subs melbourne. I would be very gratefull if people had a read of this post and any coments would muchley appreciated. Im not very good with computers and dont know how to transfer this post here, but i believe it is connected with this forum. Thanks for your time. I dont have the energy or time as it took me an hour or more the first time.
I can't relate to to an aural stimulation. Was the tone purely psychic (in your mind) or was it a stimulation of the inner ear? Having had several instances of telepathy, I soon learned the difference between hearing with my ears and 'hearing' with my mind (when I was stunned at what I had 'heard,' and repeated it back to people, their jaws dropped in horror, exclaiming that they had only thought those words, but never spoke them).
As for 'loss of soul,' some tribal societies speak of this condition, but from a Jewish-Christian perspective, we cannot lose our soul, we ARE our soul. Soul refers to our psychosomatic, or mind-body unity. It encompasses the physical body with its sensations, emotions, thoughts, values, and morals. The soul in Judaism is tripartite:
Nefesh (נפש): the lower part, or "animal part", of the soul. It is linked to instincts and bodily cravings. This part of the soul is provided at birth. Ruach (רוח): the middle soul, the "spirit". It contains the moral virtues and the ability to distinguish between good and evil. Neshamah (נשמה): the higher soul, or "super-soul". This separates man from all other life-forms. It is related to the intellect and allows man to enjoy and benefit from the afterlife. It allows one to have some awareness of the existence and presence of God.
Greeks distinguish Psyche (soul) from Pneuma (spirit). Romans Catholics designate the soul and spirit as anima and animus, respectively. C.G. Jung borrowed the terms and attributed them to the feminine male unconscious and masculine female unconscious.
So, alienation from aspects of oneself - Dissociative Disorders - are sometimes considered by transpersonal psychologists as being 'spiritual illnesses,' rather than mental illnesses. Often people say 'I've lost myself.' This happened to me when I developed a Dependent Personality Disorder as a reaction to living with my ex-wife who had Borderline Personality Disorder, with Sadistic and Antisocial features. After a decade, I no longer was sure what I was about anymore because I was too concerned with keeping peace between us. I had become like one of Odysseus' men, enchanted and enslaved by the evil sorceress Circe. Like Odysseus, whose eyes were opened by Hermes' magical plant, I finally had an eye-opening mushroom trip and realized how alienated I became from my own values. When I took shrooms with an old friend on a hike up a mountain in New Hampshire, and I said that I wasn't even sure if I was into psychedelic mushrooms (even though we were on them), he turned to me on a narrow trail and asked "What did that woman do to you?!" I suppose I could've considered that inner alienation as 'loss of soul,' but again, it was a psychical ailment (psychological disorder), not a metaphysical (spiritual) problem.
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MarkostheGnostic said:
I can't relate to to an aural stimulation. Was the tone purely psychic (in your mind) or was it a stimulation of the inner ear?.
The tone was a stimulation of the inner ear
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16705283 - 08/15/12 04:45 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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COOKED101 said:
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MarkostheGnostic said:
I can't relate to to an aural stimulation. Was the tone purely psychic (in your mind) or was it a stimulation of the inner ear?.
The tone was a stimulation of the inner ear
Which ear? The Pingala is supposedly on the right side of a male, and the left side of a female. The Ida is the left side of a male, right side of a female. Ostensibly, bio-psychic (Kundalini-Shakti) traveling exclusively up one or the other of these channels (rather than the central Sushumna), can cause all manner of psychophysical ailments and pain. Psychedelics DO liberate this 'Inner Fire,' which is why I have always employed some Yoga asanas when taking psychedelics, especially after the first two centers are stimulated, and the Navel Center begins to pool with the energy (it's a pranic battery). I usually do a Cobra and a Bow in order to move the energy up, but I can't say I've had a one-sided rush of energy.
I recommend that you consider employing Yoga practices with psychedelics to better prepare your nervous system. This might include using a mantra of mantras, because you've already experienced a negative aural experience. Just my 2¢.
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It was the right ear.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16708052 - 08/16/12 03:59 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mushrooms did the exact same thing to me, combined with huge feeling of pressure changes. It lasted for a while and it was a challenge to deal with for some time.
I've come to think there's meaning behind that sort of thing, you can start to pick up on energy patterns, it can actually be useful information
a verrrry broad 'system' i've come up with is that left signifies 'up' and right signifies 'down.' like the direction you read in, but also as pertaining to 'long term' states of consciousness. that may only make sense to me, idk

lots of music definitely goes there, so theres gotta be something to it right?
edit: the ear ringing, not the losing my soul. although, i can see how that could happen to a person. but yeah don't worry, as long as you exist you can always grow your soul back
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: g00ru]
#16708303 - 08/16/12 07:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Nature will be answer for me get back to basics and sooth the inner. Nothing like the pure noise of nature and i mean pure nothin else to work many aspects out. I am fortunate to have this not far away. Im sure it will let me know if im patient enough with the right mindframe.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16708422 - 08/16/12 08:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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There is no such thing as a soul, just your mind in constant flux. Pick up the pieces and move on.
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Never heard that before, my mind is as strong as ever and as clear as ever, its not the problem. You are talking about humans
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: COOKED101]
#16709716 - 08/16/12 01:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Isn't your soul supposed to be your "self"? How could you possibly lose such a thing and still be conscious? Ah well, I don't think it exists either.
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: Sleepwalker]
#16709909 - 08/16/12 02:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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experientially...the self is always here, but there is this perceived and seen individuality. there are lots of ways to think about what a 'soul' is, it might be your history, or your goals, or your epic astral energy armor, wutever floats your boat
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Re: Confused, Think ive lost my soul [Re: g00ru]
#16709975 - 08/16/12 02:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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while i don't think OP lost his soul... this is an interesting read on soul retrieval from a healer i've had work from: http://www.spiritportal.org/soulretrieval.html
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