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Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this!
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Sorry for the double post. Nobody wanted to answer this in basic cult. so I'm gonna give it one more shot here... thanks.

Hey, this is for anybody who's used Moe's outdoor tek. How much would I get using a strain like Golden Teachers outside on a 3'x4' patch? Sorry if this has been asked, I ran a search but I dont have time to go through every post, I need a quick answer for a friend.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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Depends on lots of things man.. Substrate or substrates used, Amount of substrate.. i would say also amount of spawn. rain\waterin temps etc.. we need more info..


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jojoba]
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Well I figured saying that I was using Moe's tek would be enough, but I should never assume anything. Moe's tek uses straw and dung (horse). I'm using popcorn to spawn and its probably close to a quart. It'll be watered when needed, as advised by the tek. Temps are around 80-90 most of the time. So, whats my ballpark figure?

I know yield questions are never popular, but my buddy is planning on dealing (and this time it isnt the friend of a friend thing, its actually my friend) and he wants to know what to expect for dried weight.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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You'll get half or less than you expect.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Pinhead]
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...okay... thanks?

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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Thats why I'm here dude..No problem.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Pinhead]
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Anybody got a number figure I can work with? lol
Like I said, I'm sorry I'm asking a yield questions, its not looked upon very favorably.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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Are you serious!!? There is no way in hell anyone could answer your question. Don't deal..you'll end up getting your ass raped in prison.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Pinhead]
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I told you that I'm not dealing. I made that clear that its my buddy. Its not the whole AFOAF deal. I literally mean my friend. And yes, I do believe somebody who is experienced in outdoor growing could give me a ballpark figure.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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:crazy2:

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Pinhead]
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Listen dude, I appreciate your input, but if you dont wanna actually answer my question, then you dont have to post. I'm just looking for an answer to my question, thats all. Not smartass remarks.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! *DELETED* [Re: Pinhead]
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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Quintessence]
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I fuckin give up. Thanks for nothing.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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I?ll give you an estimate.

Stamets says:
"Average yields are 2-4 Ibs. /sq. ft. over a 5 week cropping period"

This is provided you grow on compost and the compost layer is around 1 foot deep.

So, are you happy now?

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Anno]
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Thanks Anno.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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Dry or wet?


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: ChrisH]
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Regarding Stamets? quote?
Wet.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Anno]
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I think you should also plan on losing some to slugs, bugs and other typical outdoor hazards unless you can be watching them constantly. And Im guessing thats with pretty much ideal moisture so if you can afford to water or not might be a factor if its dry where you are.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Chemical_Smile]
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you will prolly yeild like one or two dry ounces....thats not shit for dealing...you gotta have a little more than just one outdoor patch if your planning on slanging

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Anno]
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Stamets also assumes u have PERFECT growing conditions.
he dont fuck around, his estimates are for SERIOUS growers..
most of us will NEVER achive 2-4 pounds per square foot...
shit even if i DIDNT have bugs tearing up my mushroom patch i STILL wouldnt even be CLOSE to that estimate....
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[hyp]

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: hyper_dermic]
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my friend did 3 patches 2 done half ass, and one was made with colonized straw/poo. following moes outdoor tek. hopefully this one actually proves to work


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: shroomizzy]
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eh =/ the 2 that were done half ass are done... we dug them up. so only this one...


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Pinhead]
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yeah dude moe over-egsagerates the yeilds hardcore


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Psychoslut]
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Pinheads answer didnt seem to be having anything to do with Moe's figures. Nobody mentioned any figures Moe put out. Cuz I could have been expecting one dried gram, or one dried ton. He doesnt know.

But if Moe exadgerates the yields, what does he quote and how far off is he? J/w

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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Why are you wanting to let your friend deal shrooms...thats bad karma as far as i am concerned...I get more satisfaction by giving my harvest as a gift to friends/family ect ...just my thoughts on this subject :smirk:


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: TxTec]
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I think like that when i'm tripping, but then when i'm not it ceases to make sense anymore.


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: lemunhed]
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My friend wants to deal. He asked me, so I dont really have a problem with it. And yea, there will be ALOT of handouts to my friends. It'd be wrong to keep it all myself if I harvest alot.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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If you harvest alot. You should at least make back all your costs though you know? Mushroom growing takes a lot of knowledge and trial and error to get right, it's a lot of pain and you should be compensated. I think the knowledge you get it a far more just compensation than money, but you gotta eat right?(something other than shrooms that is).


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: lemunhed]
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Yea. Very true. Me and my buddy are working something out. Turns out he just wants a little spending cash, so he's gonna be giving me about 80% of the profits. I was pleased to hear this. I'll be giving away half of that and using the rest to treat myself. Depending on how much grows (if I follow the tek I made a month or so ago, I could end up with about 80 outdoor 3'x4' patches) I could have enough to make a healthy donation to charity. Thats something I've always wanted to do. We'll see how it pans out. Maybe I'll donate some of it to the Shroomery :grin:

I'll keep ya posted.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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Quote:
My friend wants to deal




your friend is gonna go to hell...
jesus told me so...
its in the bible...

[hyp]

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: hyper_dermic]
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Why is he evil? Thats total bullshit for everyone to assume that because somebody does a little dealing that they're a bad person. Most of the people that I know that deal are very good people. People need to stop being so critical of it. There's obviously a great demand for dealers, so how are they wrong for filling this spot? If they're dishonest or violent, thats a different story ... but don't assume that dealers are inherently evil.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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I'm a giver not a dealer


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: Cracka_X]
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Thats the way to go. I just figure though, if I give my buddy some free shrooms and he wants to sell em, thats for him to decide. And if he wants to give me a cut of the profits, all the better ...

I'd just never ask him to deal, I wouldn't want to be responsible for him going to jail.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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yea man, I try n convince my friends to grow. Some live out in the country and I'm gonna set up a huge outdoor patch. I'm gonna most def get some DE for this.


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The best way to live
is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao        ~Daodejing

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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YOUR FRIEND IS EVIL AND SO ARE YOU!
REASONS:
1. this is a site dedicated to an illegal drug
2.you are asking for advice for the expressed purpose of criminal activity
3.your friend will get busted ,he will snitch on you,you will say that you got advise to manyfacture ia illicit substance from this website ,and then everyone goes to jail,or the shroomery gets shut down.


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: PSILLYSIMON]
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The first two are bullshit, because that includes everybody here. The third is legitimate. Although my buddy has connections already, he used to deal big time. All he has to do is make a few quick phone calls and he can have 10 lbs gone, just like that. Hes not gonna be pushing em on the street, which would be extremely high risk. But it still doesn't make him EVIL. Maybe selfish or stupid, but certainly not evil.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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you are providing a service and while i myself don't deal as long as you do it responsibly i really don't see a problem....just don't be selling that shit to little kids or anyone that looks potentially unstable

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: NapkinOfDoom]
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Like Cracka_X said, mushrooms are a thing that should be shared around and not sold.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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jonas said:
Turns out he just wants a little spending cash, so he's gonna be giving me about 80% of the profits. I'll keep ya posted.



LOL! hehehe. If somebody were cool enough to give away 80% of the profit, they'd be cool enough to not sell them at all. If they are going to be dealing, no way that 80% deal will last more than 30 seconds. Sounds like a bad movie. Kid gets offered the killer drug deal, dealer shafts him after he gets the drugs, fill in ending with either comedy, drama or more likely, tragedy.

Anyway, on the yield issue, you'll never get a good estimate for outdoor grows. There are just far too many variables that nobody can control. Do you really think that anybody on here has grown at that level, and just happened to be doing it in a climate exactly identical to yours? And I don't mean that they are from Arkansas too, but that the time of year, weather conditions, local factors such as surrounding vegetation, slug population, local squirels affection for fungi etc etc were all the same? Well, all that affects outdoor yields.

On the stamets tip though, his estimate is for a well managed indoor grow. Don't expect that. Somebody said that none of us could ever reach that level, and that's absurd. There are a lot of people here that are growing in the 4 wet # per sq. ft. range. With some experience, and a good INDOOR set-up, many can easily surpass stamts quoted AVERAGE yields.

I will try and help guess, even though I think dealers are shit, part-time dealers are worse, and dealers who pretend to be cool hippy non-dealers are the worst. If you have horrible unforseen issues such as unstoppable slugs, rabid squirrels, or shitty uexpected weather, I'd guess at about 7-15 dry grams per sq. ft. over several flushes. If you kick ass and blow me away, it would be at 30 dry grams per sq. foot per flush. Given the knowledge and experience you seem to have, and with perfect conditions, I'd expect no more than 2 dry ounces per box from several flushes.

But hey, if it turns out the way I expect, at least you'll be able to sell your story to USA for a made for tv movie!


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: mycofile]
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<<If you have horrible unforseen issues such as unstoppable slugs, rabid squirrels, or shitty uexpected weather, I'd guess at about 7-15 dry grams per sq. ft. over several flushes. If you kick ass and blow me away, it would be at 30 dry grams per sq. foot per flush. Given the knowledge and experience you seem to have, and with perfect conditions, I'd expect no more than 2 dry ounces per box from several flushes.>>
That's a pretty good estimate........if I knew a medical grower I mean, I bet that's almost exactly what he would say about outdoor/seasonal patch culture yields....


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: mycofile]
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mycofile said:
jonas said:
Turns out he just wants a little spending cash, so he's gonna be giving me about 80% of the profits. I'll keep ya posted.



LOL! hehehe. If somebody were cool enough to give away 80% of the profit, they'd be cool enough to not sell them at all. If they are going to be dealing, no way that 80% deal will last more than 30 seconds. Sounds like a bad movie. Kid gets offered the killer drug deal, dealer shafts him after he gets the drugs, fill in ending with either comedy, drama or more likely, tragedy.

Anyway, on the yield issue, you'll never get a good estimate for outdoor grows. There are just far too many variables that nobody can control. Do you really think that anybody on here has grown at that level, and just happened to be doing it in a climate exactly identical to yours? And I don't mean that they are from Arkansas too, but that the time of year, weather conditions, local factors such as surrounding vegetation, slug population, local squirels affection for fungi etc etc were all the same? Well, all that affects outdoor yields.

On the stamets tip though, his estimate is for a well managed indoor grow. Don't expect that. Somebody said that none of us could ever reach that level, and that's absurd. There are a lot of people here that are growing in the 4 wet # per sq. ft. range. With some experience, and a good INDOOR set-up, many can easily surpass stamts quoted AVERAGE yields.

I will try and help guess, even though I think dealers are shit, part-time dealers are worse, and dealers who pretend to be cool hippy non-dealers are the worst. If you have horrible unforseen issues such as unstoppable slugs, rabid squirrels, or shitty uexpected weather, I'd guess at about 7-15 dry grams per sq. ft. over several flushes. If you kick ass and blow me away, it would be at 30 dry grams per sq. foot per flush. Given the knowledge and experience you seem to have, and with perfect conditions, I'd expect no more than 2 dry ounces per box from several flushes.

But hey, if it turns out the way I expect, at least you'll be able to sell your story to USA for a made for tv movie!



He's one of my best friends and I trust him alot. Though like you say, you never know what could happen ...

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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do not deal. they are already using the patriot act to shut people down (fanaticus.com). why make it easier for them. u will go to jail, your friend will rat you out, etc.

be a cool guy and use your knowledge/ power for good. how will you feel when someone has a bad trip and jumps from a roof from eating your shrooms. technically, you arent a murderer, however, i would say most of us here would consider you one. and you wouldnt?

think morally and ethically, not $$$....

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: guitarnut]
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I cant believe the hypocrisy of this forum. I can almost guarantee that NONE of you grew the first shrooms you ate. You bought them. Thats the end of discussion.


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: The FUnGal FiEnD]
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No need for all the animosity. Bottom line, some people are businessmen and they are going to see the huge potential to make money and ignore the risk when growing/dealing mushrooms. Other people are going to view mushrooms intellectually/spiritually and enjoy them and give them to their friends and help people out. It's just your style, dealing isn't wrong it's just risky, it's just another business. Likewise, not dealing is fine too if you don't want the risk. Let people deal and fuck up and get caught, it won't effect you at all. No one is going to shut down the shroomery (or even know anyone had anything to do with it) if someone gets busted dealing. It's not like no one knows about this sight, it has 5 million fucking hits. You don't get a sight with that much traffic that isn't monitored.
Those are my thoughts, take them for what they are.


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: lemunhed]
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well, this post has degraded into people getting mad about dealing, but i have a question that has something to do with yeilds i guess, so il post it here instead of starting a new thread. I have a outdoor patch and i sorta dug it up a little (just by hand) and i saw a little bit of white growth where i started the patch. my patch is in a spot that used to be a big heap of manure. there was a LOT of plants that had popped up all around the perimeter of my patch, and the same day i dug up the patch to check for growth i pulled out most of these plants.. and i spotted what looks like healthy mycelium to me, but it was about a foot away from the original patch! i lloked aroudn some more and found anohter white patch.. do you think its magikal mushroom mycelium or some other kind of white growth or mycelium for another species (ive never seen mushrooms grow in this spot before though)? anyway, i hope the sun doesnt dry it all up, ive been watering it a bit on the really hot days...

and my take on dealing shrooms is... if your going to do it, dont talk about it here. Ill admit i tried to sell shrooms, but I ended up never collecting any money from these "deals". I 'dealt' only to friends, i gave them the shrooms on a 'front', and i gave them really good deals, and they never paid me.... cheap bastards, but i didnt really care too much. (2 of these so called 'friends' i now have major beef with,but NOT over the shrooms...they have theirs coming) One guy did trade me 7 grams of some really good pot for 7 grams of shrooms, and that was pretty cool. for the record, i'd never try to sell shrooms again, not worth it. I would, however, occasionally trade for pot, and i beleive there is nothing wrong with that.


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: GWAR]
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nobody thinks your cool cuz "you admit it, you tried to sell shrooms." Please, kill yourself.


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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: ]
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Me too.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: daba]
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Listen, just to set the record straight ... I started growing with the intentions of growing for myself and some buddies. Just for us, no dealing involved. I've never shroomed and wanted my first trip to be the fruits of my labor. But somewhere along the lines, I thought of a way to grow mass amounts of shrooms, and you can find that in the FAQ Contributions forum. Its nothing fancy, but looks like it should work. So I decided I'd try it. And my friend decided that since he has the connections, he could get rid of the extra shrooms (and there should be a lot of them) and make some good money.

Now as for my decision at that point. I made my decision and that's that. Some think dealing is wrong, others don't. I don't see the problem though ... it's not like I'll be buying guns with the money, I'll be using to put me through college most likely.

If you guys have a problem with that, then so be it. I can't change that. But for the record, this NEVER began as a way to make money. It just sort of evolved into it. I guess what I'm saying is, if dealing's not for you, then don't do it, if it is ... well do what you gotta do.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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One more thing ... where I said "I" or "my friend" or something to that extent ... I sometimes accidentally write "I" when I mean my left sneaker. So where I said "I started growing shrooms ...", substitute as "My left sneaker started growing shrooms ..." :grin:

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: jonas]
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jonas said:
One more thing ... where I said "I" or "my friend" or something to that extent ... I sometimes accidentally write "I" when I mean my left sneaker. So where I said "I started growing shrooms ...", substitute as "My left sneaker started growing shrooms ..." :grin: 




I don't think the jury will giggle the same way you did when that is read aloud in court. 

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: YidakiMan]
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Maybe so, but I forgot to write that in so better late than never.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: liftedoff420]
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the more layers you can create in casing your outdoor patch the bigger your friends yield will be, the yield is directly related to the depth of the substrate in my (friends) experience. Having said that, other factors will affect overall yields, rain, dry weather, pests, etc. The first flush is apparently also very small, like a scout for the mycelial mass. Stamets The Mushroom Cultivator covers all aspects your friend will ever need to know about in or outdoor cultivation, a worth while investment.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: mycofile]
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lol

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: MAGICSNOOP]
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The vast majority of online communication is inadmissable in court, unless it comes from an email with your signature on it. The jury would never get a chance to giggle at it or not, but the cops and DA can use it to aide their investigation, just not the trial.


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PM me with any cultivation questions.

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Re: Outdoor Yields, please somebody post on this! [Re: mycofile]
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Ahhh Thats a bit of relief.

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