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drug testing
    #1667143 - 06/27/03 01:12 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

i have to go in for a drug test for a job pretty soon. it's a landscaping job at a major theme park and they're not only giving me a urine test, but a hair test as well. a LANDSCAPING job! a DRUG TEST! ridiiiiiculous...i hope i pass but i'm not sure... what a load of shit.. you know how much testing my hair costs them? but i digress... anyway, this got me thinking about drug testing. it seems to be expanding more and more into people's lives.

while i think it's an intrusion of privacy and ineffective as a means of employment screening, i recognize the right of employers to drug test their employees and fire anyone that fails or doesn't comply.

but it's gone over the line in some areas. in some places, to be involved in extracurricular activities at public schools, you must pass a drug test. i've even heard that some public schools are even thinking about randomly testing the entire student body.

what would keep the government from administering drug tests as a requirement for a driver's license? it seems like something the public could be convinced to support. they could probably pull off even semi-annual hair tests for drivers. it could happen. it'd probably be the most effective way to cut marijuana use.


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Re: drug testing [Re: ]
    #1667160 - 06/27/03 01:24 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Or how about hooking politician's up to lie detectors ?

I beleive your talking about the USoA, and if you haven't noticed.. we're in some big debt and I doubt our government could spend a couple billion more to get a hairtest done on every single driver in this nation. Hair tests can bring up drugs you havn't done for years, so that would basically get rid of X% of the population as drivers.

As for that test of yours..


I thank you, and bid you goodbye.  :tongue:


Edited by Crass (06/27/03 01:28 PM)


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Re: drug testing [Re: Crass]
    #1667182 - 06/27/03 01:33 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

hair test can detect drug use for the past 90 days tops. while expensive, hair tests for all licensed drivers would be a more cost-effective way to fight drug use than current strategies.


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Re: drug testing [Re: ]
    #1667710 - 06/27/03 07:20 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

You can get special shampoo to beat hair tests.

I don't know how well they work.

One of these days I'm going to go into car dealerships and make the owner piss in a cup for me before I even test drive a car.

I'll only do this for dealerships that drug test employees.


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    #1667794 - 06/27/03 08:01 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I think that most employers are more worried about training an employee only to lose them when they get arrested more than the actual drug use. I have talked to severaly employers who have said something to that effect.


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Re: drug testing [Re: z@z.com]
    #1667818 - 06/27/03 08:19 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I think some of them may be pressured by insurance companies.


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    #1667828 - 06/27/03 08:23 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

i just cut my hair really short, giving them 2-4 weeks of hair to work with instead of months. mwahaha. nothing a short haircut and a few hours in the pool can't get rid of.

if my hair is short, i look like a white supremacist. it never fails.


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    #1667833 - 06/27/03 08:27 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

My friend just took a hair test and they took a chest hair.


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Re: drug testing [Re: z@z.com]
    #1667845 - 06/27/03 08:36 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

i was under the impression that they actually needed many strands of hair, not just a single one for a hair analysis. i'm pretty sure the sample's gonna come from my head. i hope so anyway. i bet my body hair is pretty old stuff.


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    #1667859 - 06/27/03 08:44 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe maybe not. All I know is what I have been told second hand. I have never had to take a drug test.


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    #1668353 - 06/28/03 01:46 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

They need a sample of hair 1.5 inches long. They can not be done with a single hair.

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Re: drug testing [Re: Crass]
    #1668421 - 06/28/03 02:21 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Good luck with your drug test. Let us know how it goes.


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