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Offlinecapnstem
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another casing question
    #1666216 - 06/27/03 02:24 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Would AFOAF be able to break a colonized cake into pieces and place the chunks directly onto a tray without a layer of verm underneath or is that bottom layer absolutely necessary? Sorry once again for the newbie question....much thanks


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Re: another casing question [Re: capnstem]
    #1666286 - 06/27/03 02:49 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The point of a casing is to surround the colonized substrate with a nutrient enriched material which serves to give the mycelium water and food so that the mushrooms will grow big, strong, and a plenty....so yes I would say that having a bottom layer is very important.


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Re: another casing question [Re: DannyBoy]
    #1666303 - 06/27/03 02:55 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

DannyBoy that's not all entirely true. The main point of casing is the top layer, which makes it a casing, not the bottom layer or "surrounding" the mycelium. A bottom later is benificial but not totally necessary. If you're going to use any bottom layer Perlite is by far superior to anything else.


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Re: another casing question [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1666360 - 06/27/03 03:19 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I would think having a bottom layer would just be a better idea because it gives the other end of the mycelium some nutrients and water to feed off of.

But I can see how it not being necessary but I think more than ebing not necessasy it should be done for the sake of the casing.


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Re: another casing question [Re: DannyBoy]
    #1666366 - 06/27/03 03:22 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If you make a nutritious casing layer, you are a almost guaranteed failure.


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Re: another casing question [Re: Anno]
    #1666553 - 06/27/03 05:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The bottom layer soaks up any excess water (from when you over excitedly mist too much), and thus prevents your layer of mycelium from being left in a pool.
So I thought anyway.


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Re: another casing question [Re: Scvotto_Turellskey]
    #1666578 - 06/27/03 05:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: another casing question [Re: Anno]
    #1666659 - 06/27/03 06:45 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Is Jiffy mix Potting soil considered nutritious? It claims to be "ALL NATURAL 100% ORGANIC", but others have used it and commented on its wonders here on the board.


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Re: another casing question [Re: DannyBoy]
    #1666740 - 06/27/03 08:20 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

DannyBoy said:
The point of a casing is to surround the colonized substrate with a nutrient enriched material which serves to give the mycelium water and food so that the mushrooms will grow big, strong, and a plenty....so yes I would say that having a bottom layer is very important.





A nutritious casing layer would, likely, contaminate and is never a good recommendation. It's like leaving food out on your kitchen counter unprotected.

Casing layers are not supposed to be nutritious . Casing layers serve the purpose of protection and moisture only.


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Re: another casing question [Re: BetMomIsProud]
    #1666766 - 06/27/03 09:12 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

>Is Jiffy mix Potting soil considered nutritious?
No.
When we say nutritious, we mean nutritious for mushrooms.


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Re: another casing question [Re: Anno]
    #1668278 - 06/28/03 12:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Anno said:
Exactly.
More here:
http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23442




Anno, from your personal experience which one do you find produces better results? Bottom layer or no bottom layer, if the 1st which kind of layer do you find is best?


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