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Re: Jars with black spots(mold?) continue to colonize?!?!? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1670898 - 06/29/03 03:36 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

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Try doing a search?  HAHA, listen, i've grown Cubensis out more than 200 times, I need not do a search as i've seen this happen many times.


 
I meant a search about the mycelium never beating mold.. there's other references to it around from other people. And in 1000+ jars I've never, ever, seen spore patches on cakes. So why you've seen them all the time and the majority haven't remains a mystery. There's a big difference between peppery specks of spores and a dark patch.
The original poster said "The spots are pretty random " which I assumed meant they're.. random.. and not just under innoculation holes. If that's the case then there's no way it could be spores.. agreed?
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100% clear syringe with no visable spores at all, then it may be mold, but remember 9 times out of 10 the mold will overtake the mycelium and win the battle, this almost always happens inside a jar, doesn't matter what kind of mold it is.



So you've changed your mind now from "no way the mycelium would beat it, mold always takes over inside a jar" to a 1 in 10 chance that it could..  :rolleyes:
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This comes from years of hands on experience people, i'm not talking



'Reged: 12/27/98'... Ditto.

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Re: Jars with black spots(mold?) continue to colonize?!?!? [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1671044 - 06/29/03 07:20 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

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First of all, you were being in ass in the way you said what you did. You made it sound personal, so it was taken as such.




This is how I first addressed your statement, "Please, pardon my disagreement, but this is very bad information."

Considering the magnitude of the misinformation, it was very polite. In fact, I've reviewed some of your previous posts and found that my manners with disagreements far exceeded your own.

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Second, my stating that spores show up in PF jars and is often mistaken for mold is not an opinion, it's a fact, regardless if you like to acknowledge it or not. You spouting off about it being misinformation is just plain ignorance.



Maybe it's possible that everyone here is wrong and you are correct, but it is very unlikely. Please, show one reference from a reputable source to support your claim that black in a jar are spores. Surely, if it's as common as you claim from your vast experiences there will be at least one source of support.

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Time here, for most people, does relate to knowledge. It doesn't matter how many posts you have as much as it does how much you read in here, either on the boards or in the FAQ's.



Assuming that registered time at the Shroomery somehow relates to knowledge is very shortsighted and ignorant.

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But most importantly, more important than any degree or written knowledge is hands on experience, something that I and many others here have, which is why a lot of people know that black spots in PF jars are spores and not mold a lot of the time.



In further review of your posts, I found very little positive contribution. Rather, I found much sarcasm and berating of new cultivators. Much of your posts is just touting the benefits of the cool mist humidifer and pointing out the obvious.

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I doubt your degree in Biology would of ever taught you that. Maybe with a little experience in growing you too will realise this does indeed happen.



One supporting source, please?

I didn't want this to become an argument, and again, it was never personal as you accepted and made it.


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Re: Jars with black spots(mold?) continue to colonize?!?!? [Re: Ainasko]
    #1671059 - 06/29/03 07:40 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

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Ainasko said:
Maybe it's possible that everyone here is wrong and you are correct, but it is very unlikely. Please, show one reference from a reputable source to support your claim that black in a jar are spores. Surely, if it's as common as you claim from your vast experiences there will be at least one source of support.



Exactly. If you think about it, the Shroomery members must have grown hundreds of thousands of jars between them over the years, or more likely in the millions. Logically there should be numerous posts asking "wtf are these black patches in my jars!" from concerned people yet I can't find any previous references to it. Theres a handful of posts asking about black specks but that's it.
Anyway, I'm well and truly bored with this now so I'll just have to agree to differ with Snobrdr.
-fin-

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Re: Jars with black spots(mold?) continue to colonize?!?!? [Re: vitamink]
    #1674480 - 06/30/03 04:31 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

My 2 cents:
I?ve seen very dark spore syringes containing spore clumps leave some spores visible after the colonization with white mycelium.
On the other hand, those were only small, small specks, never anything as big as a dime. So the size speaks against the spores theory.

On the other hand if I got black mold, it never was suppressed back by mycelium in my grows...so....it?s a tough call, I don?t really know what?s the case here.


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Re: Jars with black spots(mold?) continue to colonize?!?!? [Re: Anno]
    #1674577 - 06/30/03 05:02 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Damn man dont argue with Ainasko she rules


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Re: Jars with black spots(mold?) continue to colonize?!?!? [Re: MOE.shrooms]
    #1674639 - 06/30/03 05:18 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

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MOE.shrooms said:
Damn man dont argue with Ainasko she rules




I don't mind if people disagree with me. The world would be a boring place if we all agreed. Some people just take disagreements personally, which was not my intention.

Snobrdr311, no hard feelings on my end. No worries.


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Re: Jars with black spots(mold?) continue to colonize?!?!? [Re: Ainasko]
    #1675438 - 06/30/03 10:19 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

WELL EVERYONE.

hi there just the starter of the thread posting here. heh
a quick update!

the jars are still colonizing just fine and there seems to be no problem. the black spots are getting smaller for the most part and there was never any bad smell coming from the jars.

i guess we will all see what will happen soon

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