The Ecstatic said:

A short time ago? The owner has publicly been against gay people for a while now, politicians are just now cashing in on it.

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Also, its one thing to be against gay marriage as a personal opinion, and another to funnel millions of dollars into "traditional" advocacy groups to keep equal rights from gays.

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trampis said:

I drove by a chick-fil-a today and the line was fucking rediculous. All these people are waiting in line for an insane amount of time to buy some fast food because somehow that supports the notion that gay marriage is wrong. . .

Also, there were some guys sitting out front with a huge sign that said "HOMO SEX IS SIN"



This whole ordeal is so fucking stupid. I won't be eating at chick-fil-a anytime soon. Not because I give a damn about some douchebags opinion against gays having the right to get married, but because I don't want to wait an hour to eat some "fast" food.

Meanwhile the Raising Cane's down the street is pretty badass

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All We Perceive said:

My headphone port is still broken but it seems like everyone wins here.  The gays win because the issue is bouncing around everywhere.  chick-fil-a wins because they are in the news.  I have a really hard time believing that people were like fuck gays!  let's eat chick-fil-a!!!!  It seems more like they saw it in the news and were like, "man, I haven't had that shit in a while!"

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trampis said:

Meanwhile the Raising Cane's down the street is pretty badass

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Sometimes I think people over look the kind of strength it requires to be gay and conservative. You give up a lot to voice your political beliefs and you risk a lot in the process. Its so easy to come out of the closet and be an openly gay man in today's society, but coming out and declaring your conservatism... THAT takes real courage, a strong stomach, and nerves of steel.

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Prisoner#1 said:

The Ecstatic said:

A short time ago? The owner has publicly been against gay people for a while now, politicians are just now cashing in on it.

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a short time ago... and interview, I'm not talking about his life story which
in the grand scheme of things is still a short time ago

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Also, its one thing to be against gay marriage as a personal opinion, and another to funnel millions of dollars into "traditional" advocacy groups to keep equal rights from gays.

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should we exercise equality and say that it's wrong to support and donate to
advocacy groups regardless of their goals?

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All We Perceive said:

Yeah.  I really can't fault "the public" for railing against chik-fil-a because he is the fuckin CEO of the company.  Unless you believe a corporation is not a summation of its parts, he is not entitled to "separate" views.

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Idiot said:

A while ago I friended most of my highschool class and one of them was a gay conservative.  It's hilarious how full of himself he is and how weirdly he reacted to this chick-fil-a controversy.  At first he was offended, but now he is supporting the whole first amendment side of it.  He even went to the costumer appreciation day they had.

He's so full of himself too, it's hilarious.  This is his most recent post;

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Sometimes I think people over look the kind of strength it requires to be gay and conservative. You give up a lot to voice your political beliefs and you risk a lot in the process. Its so easy to come out of the closet and be an openly gay man in today's society, but coming out and declaring your conservatism... THAT takes real courage, a strong stomach, and nerves of steel.

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There was a funny exchange earlier today involving him and another fag.  It was involving this picture and he said it was probably a leftist gay person who did it.  Then another gay guy came on saying he was tired of his shallow and generalistic posts and that he is going to defriend him or something.  He basically had a melt down all caps locked out and stuff. 

I don't agree with his views and he is very generalstic but the only reason I don't unfriend him is because the drama queen he is and how much shit he instigates...it hilarious.

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The Ecstatic said:

I'm saying its all well and good to be for or against anything. He's exercising his rights, and because of that, people are exercising their right to not eat at Chik-Fil-A.

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The sob story you keep hearing from the right is that he's being persecuted for his beliefs. Really? Why is it when someone disagrees with right wing Christians its persecution? He has the right to be against equality and people have their rights to find that unsavory and boycott his business.

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BlindSophist said:

Bad publicity is better than no publicity.

Honestly I can't believe how much America cares about fast food, that now we're making political statements by picking and choosing brands of artery-clogging garbage. The social-networking upheaval over this is awe-inspiring.

I'm with the boycott because I believe ex-gay organizations should be starved, but I've never even eaten at Chick-Fil-A. There aren't any in my area.

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Prisoner#1 said:

The Ecstatic said:

I'm saying its all well and good to be for or against anything. He's exercising his rights, and because of that, people are exercising their right to not eat at Chik-Fil-A.

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except they're exercising their right to eat at chik-fil-a

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The sob story you keep hearing from the right is that he's being persecuted for his beliefs. Really? Why is it when someone disagrees with right wing Christians its persecution? He has the right to be against equality and people have their rights to find that unsavory and boycott his business.

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the man donates money to causes he supports, he's not going to the homes and
businesses of gays and harassing them, he's not telling america to close down
the businesses via unsuccessful boycotts

I dont think you understand what persecution is, something that is happening
with dan cathy and his company

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BlindSophist said:

Bad publicity is better than no publicity.

I'm with the boycott because I believe ex-gay organizations should be starved, but I've never even eaten at Chick-Fil-A. There aren't any in my area.

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Prisoner#1 said:

The Ecstatic said:

I'm saying its all well and good to be for or against anything. He's exercising his rights, and because of that, people are exercising their right to not eat at Chik-Fil-A.

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except they're exercising their right to eat at chik-fil-a

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The sob story you keep hearing from the right is that he's being persecuted for his beliefs. Really? Why is it when someone disagrees with right wing Christians its persecution? He has the right to be against equality and people have their rights to find that unsavory and boycott his business.

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the man donates money to causes he supports, he's not going to the homes and
businesses of gays and harassing them, he's not telling america to close down
the businesses via unsuccessful boycotts

I dont think you understand what persecution is, something that is happening
with dan cathy and his company

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BlindSophist said:

Have you ever read the red letter words in the New Testament? Jesus is describing the behavior of Christians and condemning it as hypocritical.

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The Ecstatic said:

A short time ago? The owner has publicly been against gay people for a while now, politicians are just now cashing in on it.

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Also, its one thing to be against gay marriage as a personal opinion, and another to funnel millions of dollars into "traditional" advocacy groups to keep equal rights from gays.

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The Ecstatic said:

People choosing to not eat at Chik-Fil-A = persecution

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Idiot said:

A while ago I friended most of my highschool class and one of them was a gay conservative.  It's hilarious how full of himself he is and how weirdly he reacted to this chick-fil-a controversy.  At first he was offended, but now he is supporting the whole first amendment side of it.  He even went to the costumer appreciation day they had.

He's so full of himself too, it's hilarious.  This is his most recent post;

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Sometimes I think people over look the kind of strength it requires to be gay and conservative. You give up a lot to voice your political beliefs and you risk a lot in the process. Its so easy to come out of the closet and be an openly gay man in today's society, but coming out and declaring your conservatism... THAT takes real courage, a strong stomach, and nerves of steel.

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There was a funny exchange earlier today involving him and another fag.  It was involving this picture and he said it was probably a leftist gay person who did it.  Then another gay guy came on saying he was tired of his shallow and generalistic posts and that he is going to defriend him or something.  He basically had a melt down all caps locked out and stuff. 

I don't agree with his views and he is very generalstic but the only reason I don't unfriend him is because the drama queen he is and how much shit he instigates...it hilarious.

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starfire_xes said:

I just went by the Chick-Fil-A here.  You know, something really queer is going on there....

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Is it Friday already?

zappaisgod said:

In certainly communities it is absolutely more acceptable to be a homo than to be a conservative.  Especially in the homo community.  The conservative community is more accepting of homos than the homo community is of conservatives.

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nopalero said:

i'v never heard of a heterosexual being killed for being heterosexual, but people that fuel the flames that cause heterosexuals to kill homosexuals are really out there.

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BlindSophist said:

starfire_xes said:

I just went by the Chick-Fil-A here.  You know, something really queer is going on there....

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Is it Friday already?

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Prisoner#1 said:

The Ecstatic said:

People choosing to not eat at Chik-Fil-A = persecution

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people going to the business and harassing the employees = persecution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution

Persecution is the systematic mistreatment of an individual or group by another group. The most common forms are religious persecution, ethnic persecution, and political persecution, though there is naturally some overlap between these terms. The inflicting of suffering, harassment, isolation, imprisonment, fear, or pain are all factors that may establish persecution. Even so, not all suffering will necessarily establish persecution. The suffering experienced by the victim must be sufficiently severe. The threshold level of severity has been a source of much debate.[1]


care to show us where the groups that dan cathay is donating to is persecuting people?

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nopalero said:

i'v never heard of a heterosexual being killed for being heterosexual, but people that fuel the flames that cause heterosexuals to kill homosexuals are really out there.

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Prisoner#1 said:

nopalero said:

i'v never heard of a heterosexual being killed for being heterosexual, but people that fuel the flames that cause heterosexuals to kill homosexuals are really out there.

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there's a lot of things you dont hear about but that doesnt mean it doesnt
happen, the problem is publishing all of the truth about something doesnt
sell the agenda the media wants to push

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zappaisgod said:

nopalero said:

i'v never heard of a heterosexual being killed for being heterosexual, but people that fuel the flames that cause heterosexuals to kill homosexuals are really out there.

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Yes, they are assholes.  Relevance?

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The Ecstatic said:

Prisoner#1 said:

The Ecstatic said:

People choosing to not eat at Chik-Fil-A = persecution

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people going to the business and harassing the employees = persecution

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution

Persecution is the systematic mistreatment of an individual or group by another group. The most common forms are religious persecution, ethnic persecution, and political persecution, though there is naturally some overlap between these terms. The inflicting of suffering, harassment, isolation, imprisonment, fear, or pain are all factors that may establish persecution. Even so, not all suffering will necessarily establish persecution. The suffering experienced by the victim must be sufficiently severe. The threshold level of severity has been a source of much debate.[1]


care to show us where the groups that dan cathay is donating to is persecuting people?

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And all these people are harassing and terrorizing employees?

This is what happens in every national controversy in this country. People on both sides take it too far, and the media only covers the two extremes.

People who are doing what you've mentioned are ignorant. Plain and simple.

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nopalero said:

zappaisgod said:

nopalero said:

i'v never heard of a heterosexual being killed for being heterosexual, but people that fuel the flames that cause heterosexuals to kill homosexuals are really out there.

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Yes, they are assholes.  Relevance?

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to you yes, you both are.

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starfire_xes said:

What I find disturbing is people screaming that Chick-Fil-A is 'discriminating' because the CEO SAYS he is against gay marriage.  I don't find expressing an opinion discrimination.  There is something in our country called 'Free Speech.' 

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Now, I support gay marriage.  However, I also support the right of a person who owns a business to say he doesn't.

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The Ecstatic said:

What is so wrong about gay people being married that warrants spending millions of your own money to prevent it?

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BlindSophist said:

My point is only to defend "discrimination" against a business whose "speech" (apparently now synonymous with "money") directly funds persecution.

Chik-Fil-A is mostly found in the South where people really cotton to gay-bashing. This type of event (by which I mean the counter-boycott in favor of Chik-Fil-A) doesn't help people live with their urges in a hostile community. For God's sake, man, do we really need another hundred-page Shroomerites Anonymous thread debating whether or not it's "gay" to suck your friend's dick?

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a social revolt said:

We're better than this America- let's hijack this issue and make it look how it should- fucking ridiculous!

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BlindSophist said:

Actually, I blame the Mormons.

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The Ecstatic said:

What is so wrong about gay people being married that warrants spending millions of your own money to prevent it?

And don't sidestep the question by using some retarded platitude, don't tell me that's what God wants, and don't tell me its unnatural.

Every reason traditional marriage supporters have to defend their actions is irrelevant, or flat out wrong.  If its because of your religion, you can't use that as an argument for government policy. If you think its unnatural, there are hundreds(if not thousands) of animals that exhibit homosexuality on occasion.  It is for this reason alone that gay equality advocates (the national majority) look down at these people as bigots.  They're rationale is as misguided and ignorant as those who wanted to keep interracial marriage illegal.

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I just talked to my baptist father about this- he says "marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman- it always has been for thousands of years even before Jesus ever came into existence... also the Jews and Muslims have practiced the same views for as long as history goes back, right?"

Good point, so I said "why is the argument backed by religion- isn't this a legal issue regarding citizens? Like I understand people like you believe we're all God's children but what about the people who don't? Aren't laws designed for human beings living in a human society?"

He said "God is right and the Bible is true, and the law has always been the law and always should be"

I said "this is complicated... but I hate how I can't argue about anything with you because you pull the 'bible card' and end a somewhat intelligent conversation. Remember when black people used to use different bathrooms and have to sit in the back of the bus? Remember when alcohol was illegal (whilst we both drink yuenglings)? Laws change, right?"

He then went on and on about how our founding fathers were all devout christians.

I went on and on about how they were required to grow cannabis and how they definitely drank their fair share of alcohol. I also made the point that they were all technically traitors aka criminals and how Jesus was also a criminal.

He then turned on Fox News and told me to be quiet

The Ecstatic said:

What is so wrong about gay people being married that warrants spending millions of your own money to prevent it?

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And don't sidestep the question by using some retarded platitude, don't tell me that's what God wants, and don't tell me its unnatural.

Every reason traditional marriage supporters have to defend their actions is irrelevant, or flat out wrong.  If its because of your religion, you can't use that as an argument for government policy. If you think its unnatural, there are hundreds(if not thousands) of animals that exhibit homosexuality on occasion.  It is for this reason alone that gay equality advocates (the national majority) look down at these people as bigots.  They're rationale is as misguided and ignorant as those who wanted to keep interracial marriage illegal.

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a social revolt said:

I just talked to my baptist father about this- he says "marriage is defined as being between a man and a woman- it always has been for thousands of years even before Jesus ever came into existence... also the Jews and Muslims have practiced the same views for as long as history goes back, right?"

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Ima Trooper said:

1. NO ONE CARES about what the CEO "says" He can say that gays should be shot on sight. That's his right to free speech.

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Ima Trooper said:

Jesus christ its so simple! I tried explaining it to my dad a few days ago, and he just didn't get it, just like it seems like a lot of people here don't get it.


1. NO ONE CARES about what the CEO "says" He can say that gays should be shot on sight. That's his right to free speech.

2. He can totally donate his money to any group he wants. That's his right as well.

3. The issue is: YOUR MONEY GOES TO HIS CHOICE OF GROUPS.

For the last goddamn time, NO ONE IS OPPOSING HIS RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH. Thats not what this shit is about!

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