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 Re: Science vs. Religion  [Re: zZZz]
#16629077 - 08/01/12 03:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
and that is where science comes short, but this isn't about science vs. religion. this about hippies coming together and holding hands regardless of their personal views or identities.
If we can get them all in one place then one bomb should do the trick. 
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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: Diploid]
#16629088 - 08/01/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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How so? Short of what?
short of being a human being.
This is not about what the subject says it's about? I'm confused.
you must have misread the subject's thread..
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: Diploid]
#16629096 - 08/01/12 03:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icelander said:
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zZZz said:
and that is where science comes short, but this isn't about science vs. religion. this about hippies coming together and holding hands regardless of their personal views or identities.
If we can get them all in one place then one bomb should do the trick.
you know you'd be right there in the corner. 
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: zZZz]
#16629102 - 08/01/12 03:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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there is no right or wrong with science or religion.
science is unbiased observation. what you see is what you get.
religion is not right or wrong because it is completely subjective. every person has their own set of senses that develop their own understanding of existence and religion as it applies to their own needs.
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vi veri veniversum vivus vici
What she said :
"I smoke 'cos I'm hoping for an
Early death
AND I NEED TO CLING TO SOMETHING !"
Edited by desert father (08/01/12 03:52 PM)
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: zZZz]
#16629104 - 08/01/12 03:48 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can you not even reply to the correct poster? Most people master this their first week.
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zZZz
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shit happens. 
can you take my picture down now please..
there is no right or wrong with science or religion.
that's another thing i realized here in this god forsaken thread. there is no right or wrong opinion, but there can be a right or wrong action.
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: Diploid]
#16629267 - 08/01/12 04:12 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
shit happens.
can you take my picture down now please..
there is no right or wrong with science or religion.
that's another thing i realized here in this god forsaken thread. there is no right or wrong opinion, but there can be a right or wrong action.
All these pages in and I still don't think you've justified your initial claim that science is wrong.
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but this isn't about science vs. religion.
WTF? You seem to be equivocating here. You directly compare the two and find they are both similar in the fact that they are both wrong and that they are noncontradictory. It certainly is about science vs religion.
If your not going to defend your claim, it would perhaps be more considerate to withdraw it.
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: johnm214]
#16629315 - 08/01/12 04:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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i wasn't talking about science or religion specifically are wrong. i meant that the arguments between both opposing forces were. basically, make peace not war..
it wasn't suppose to be about science vs. religion, although it seems it ended up that way. that's why i added "don't discuss" i was afraid this would happen..
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: zZZz]
#16629351 - 08/01/12 04:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
i wasn't talking about science or religion specifically are wrong.
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zZZz said:
Both are wrong.
How do you parse this to not be saying either are wrong?
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i meant that the arguments between both opposing forces were. basically, make peace not war..
So why didn't you say that? Mind you, I have no idea what a "scientific force" or a "religious force" is, but this sure wasn't clearly expressed.
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it wasn't suppose to be about science vs. religion, although it seems it ended up that way.
Might have had something to do with your title and opening post.
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that's why i added "don't discuss" i was afraid this would happen..
Then why did you post it in the debate forum? The entire purpose of this forum is to debate the topics of relevance to the thread.
The only right ones, those who get along.
Don't discuss.
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: zZZz]
#16629368 - 08/01/12 04:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Scientists and zionists alike cannot simply not discuss. They are too attached to their ways and they must be heard. It's as if they think nobody has heard what they have to say and that by saying the same thing over and over again they'll somehow change other people. Stupid.
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: johnm214]
#16629372 - 08/01/12 04:32 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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note to self: be more careful with your words.
noted!, thank you for the lesson.
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: zZZz]
#16629383 - 08/01/12 04:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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zZZz said:
note to self: be more careful with your words.
noted!, thank you for the lesson.
It's not that the wording was insufficient; it's that the ideas being described were bullshit. 
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: Memories]
#16629405 - 08/01/12 04:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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i know man, i was trying to tell them their ideas were bullshit, but they just weren't having that.
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Scientists and zionists alike cannot simply not discuss.
That's not true. However, it is true in a... wait for it... DISCUSSION forum. 
I'm going to go start a thread of discussion now and lock it immediately after my OP.
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1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: Diploid]
#16629569 - 08/01/12 05:36 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's my move 
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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: Diploid]
#16629592 - 08/01/12 05:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Diploid said:
Scientists and zionists alike cannot simply not discuss.
That's not true.
I disagree. Eventually everyone speaks their mind, especially those that are adamant about what they believe in.
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There are plenty of people on both sides who prefer not to talk about this one way or another. You must run with a contentious crowd.
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Republican Values:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
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Background wave-forms repress some sensitive discussion; Don't you find?
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: zZZz]
#16638140 - 08/03/12 04:44 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Both are Wrong" may very well prove to be the best starting point for resolving and finally ending this seemingly unending discussion! For what science and religion, not to mention the rest of us, thought impossible has now happened. History has its first literal, testable and fully demonstrable proof for faith.
The first wholly new interpretation for two thousand years of the moral teachings of Christ is published on the web. Radically different from anything else we know of from history, this new teaching is predicated upon a precise, predefined and predictable experience and called 'the first Resurrection' in the sense that the Resurrection of Jesus was intended to demonstrate Gods' willingness to real Himself and intervene directly into the natural world for those obedient to His will, paving the way for access, by faith, to the power of divine transcendence and ultimate proof!
Thus 'faith' becomes an act of trust in action, to search and discover this direct individual intervention into the natural world by omnipotent power that confirms divine will, law, command and covenant, which at the same time, realigns our moral compass with the Divine, "correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries." So like it or no, a new religious teaching, testable by faith, meeting all Enlightenment criteria of evidence based causation and definitive proof now exists. Nothing short of an intellectual, moral and religious revolution is getting under way. To test or not to test, that is the question? More info at http://www.energon.org.uk,
http://soulgineering.com/2011/05/22/the-final-freedoms/
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Re: Science vs. Religion [Re: maryT] 1
#16638170 - 08/03/12 05:00 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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What did science think impossible? Nothing is the correct answer. 
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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