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InvisibleAbsolute

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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #16600485 - 07/27/12 03:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

He said he had LSD psychosis in his earlier years. I didn't know he also had pharmahausca psychosis. I guess he is going for the trifecta with mescaline.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: Absolute]
    #16600506 - 07/27/12 03:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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He said he had LSD psychosis in his earlier years. I didn't know he also had pharmahausca psychosis. I guess he is going for the trifecta with mescaline.




Well, his LSD induced psychosis was in his teenage years.  His pharmahuasca binge was a couple years ago, but I don't think it was the same kind of psychosis.  With LSD, he said he just lost his shit for several weeks.  With DMT, he was digging himself deeper into a delusional hole, but was still able to cognitively function in society.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: Absolute]
    #16600524 - 07/27/12 03:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Absolute said:
He said he had LSD psychosis in his earlier years. I didn't know he also had pharmahausca psychosis. I guess he is going for the trifecta with mescaline.




there was a handful of threads he made as he seemed to be spiralling down, but

'fuck dmt' was the last one he made before he left (he was suspended or banned, i forget which) https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=17931 ; although his original post and title was edited a bit by moderators since it was pretty profane


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #16600538 - 07/27/12 03:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

sorry if my posts came off as harsh. just trying to let people know what really happened


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #16600547 - 07/27/12 03:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Absolute said:
He said he had LSD psychosis in his earlier years. I didn't know he also had pharmahausca psychosis. I guess he is going for the trifecta with mescaline.




there was a handful of threads he made as he seemed to be spiralling down, but

'fuck dmt' was the last one he made before he left (he was suspended or banned, i forget which) https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=17931 ; although his original post and title was edited a bit by moderators since it was pretty profane




I don't think I've got enough posts on the Nexus to view that thread.  Would you mind quoting it?  I'm interested in reading it.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: Dark_Star]
    #16600555 - 07/27/12 03:36 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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This forum is about sharing knowledge & personal experience. People have different perspectives, and that's cool; life would be boring otherwise. I don't agree with everything Joe says or believes, but I do respect him. The man cares, and shares his experiences & thoughts on them to help others. That's admirable.




That's how I've come to view the man's opinions.  I also think that the fellow who said Joe has already been where others are headed and he didn't like the scenery was also pretty spot-on.

Me for my part, I've come to realize that in those instances where his ego is left in the background and his words, thoughts and opinions are featured most prominently, the guy has a LOT to say.  He says MANY things that folks here ought to pay heed to.

Joe can talk the talk because he has walked the walk.  He's the genuine article.  He speaks his mind, and pulls no punches.  If you are wise, you will at least CONSIDER his viewpoint and then accept or reject it in whole or part as you see fit.  To reject anyone's opinion out of hand is indicative of a closed-mined individual.

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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: Nature Boy]
    #16600570 - 07/27/12 03:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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To reject anyone's opinion out of hand is indicative of a closed-mined individual.




Exactly.  Considering a dissenting opinion either strengthens your beliefs, or opens your mind to new possibilities that weren't considered before.  The way I see it, you come out with a reassessment of values either way, and that's never a bad thing.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: Psilosomniac]
    #16600589 - 07/27/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

WE DON'T NEED FUCKING ATTACK THEARDS YOU FUCKING CRAVEN SWINE! If you can't debate his points in a meaningful manner than fucking ignore them.

Fucking disgusting.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: SagaciousCedar]
    #16600662 - 07/27/12 04:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I can't fuckn read all this right now Im to high on MXE for deep thought...I mean read...:strokebeard:


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: FakePlasticSky]
    #16600799 - 07/27/12 04:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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He maybe a downer but he's real.  Anyone thinking psychs are pretty rainbows and little fluffy clouds are kidding themselves.  He is just on the other end.  There are the people in the middle, left and right.  It's called human nature and individualism.  He's just real and I think he truly believes in what he says.  A good guy that cares about all of us.  Wants us to be careful because psychs can be a motherfucker.



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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: Absent Minded]
    #16600812 - 07/27/12 04:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know who this person is but I can kind of see what he's all about. I think it is perfectly fine to warn somebody of the possible bad effects of a drug. Shit, it's very nice of somebody to do. But to talk somebody out of it because he had a bad experience I think is going too far.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: gushtunkinflupped]
    #16601440 - 07/27/12 06:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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He started taking more pharmahuasca then he could handle, had a mental breakdown, and was making outrageous claims that DMT is a addicting poison and its all delusions and brainwashing etc etc e




I still firmly stand by those statements, especially in the context of the DMT-Nexus.  Many threads on that site are evidence of serious fucking religion.  Spend some time on those threads, it's space cadet central, strait jacket type shit.  Their trips are serious business, MushroomJesus style earnestness - and in a warm and caring atmosphere.  Those are some educated and intellectual dudes over there, but it's often the most intelligent that get sucked in the hardest to the center of the Bullshit.  Go on, read some of those threads from an outsider's viewpoint.  It's fascinatingly creepy.  If DMT played a role in their whacked out conclusions, the oddball thought patterns, and the thoroughly superstitious backslapping then pardon my simile, but the drug sounds like poison.  It certainly was for me - and it may not be for you.

I didn't have a mental breakdown on ayahuasca, just a bad trip that involved Mom coming over and talking some sense into me.  She finally penetrated and I broke that unhealthy pattern of use.  I was getting a little wacky during the week when I wasn't tripping, but that quickly resolved itself.  Hey, ever been addicted to something?  It sucks. 

I just read that link that VicariousGreg posted.  Fuck, it's strange reading that, I forgot a lot of the details.  I was peeling the fucking onion every weekend to see the next layer.  YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE NEXT LAYER!!!!  I blew a load in my pants once.  Nothing like ayahuasca.  What a shitty game though, but damn it was fun.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: joemolloy]
    #16601535 - 07/27/12 06:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Okay first time I met joemolly; I just had my first breakthrough.  Someone was talking about how dmt isn't physically bad for you.  Joemolly jumps in o talk shit about dmt and how it's bullshit.  Immediately I jumped and said some stupid "obviously you haven't done dmt enough to make an opinion".  I look back at it now and laugh.  Like I knew!!! Dude I just started taking dmt at the time and just defended it because I loved it so much.

Looking back the shit can hurt you.  In fact I have lung issues smoking too many times a day.  Serves me right thinking I know it all.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: joemolloy]
    #16601539 - 07/27/12 06:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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joemolloy said:
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He started taking more pharmahuasca then he could handle, had a mental breakdown, and was making outrageous claims that DMT is a addicting poison and its all delusions and brainwashing etc etc e




I still firmly stand by those statements, especially in the context of the DMT-Nexus.  Many threads on that site are evidence of serious fucking religion.  Spend some time on those threads, it's space cadet central, strait jacket type shit.  Their trips are serious business, MushroomJesus style earnestness - and in a warm and caring atmosphere.  Those are some educated and intellectual dudes over there, but it's often the most intelligent that get sucked in the hardest to the center of the Bullshit.  Go on, read some of those threads from an outsider's viewpoint.  It's fascinatingly creepy.  If DMT played a role in their whacked out conclusions, the oddball thought patterns, and the thoroughly superstitious backslapping then pardon my simile, but the drug sounds like poison.  It certainly was for me - and it may not be for you.

I didn't have a mental breakdown on ayahuasca, just a bad trip that involved Mom coming over and talking some sense into me.  She finally penetrated and I broke that unhealthy pattern of use.  I was getting a little wacky during the week when I wasn't tripping, but that quickly resolved itself.  Hey, ever been addicted to something?  It sucks. 

I just read that link that VicariousGreg posted.  Fuck, it's strange reading that, I forgot a lot of the details.  I was peeling the fucking onion every weekend to see the next layer.  YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE NEXT LAYER!!!!  I blew a load in my pants once.  Nothing like ayahuasca.  What a shitty game though, but damn it was fun.



I appreciate what you do joe. And you're right, there are plenty of people out there that treat psychedelics as a religion, its creepy at times.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: joemolloy]
    #16601555 - 07/27/12 06:42 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks Joe.

I honestly believe anything can be addictive.  Especially if it is blow a load in your pants good...

Interesting that it was Pharma; didn't know that.


I wonder if you had been brewing the Ayahuasca vine; if the story would be any different?

I think I might know what your awnser could be.


It seems I have been seeing alot of experienced folk moving towards cactus over everything, of late.

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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: joemolloy]
    #16601593 - 07/27/12 06:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Seriously though Op... There's probably not much in the way of anything positive that will ever come from calling someone out in this way.
  Joe, I've read many of your posts. You are definitely a negative fuck. :bigyesnod:  But, like with myself, it comes from staring darkness in the face and laughing like a complete lunatic, when necessary, of course. And I respect you :heytherebadboy:  In my life, I try ( like hell sometimes ) to attach my will and attention to positive energies, because those are the only ones that lead to love. With psyches, that can be a slippery slope. Human emotion is powerful, and when one you don't like gets a hold of you, it's very easy to get disenchanted with the drugs that brought you to the dance.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: flickedbic]
    #16601721 - 07/27/12 07:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks Joe.

I honestly believe anything can be addictive.  Especially if it is blow a load in your pants good...

Interesting that it was Pharma; didn't know that.


I wonder if you had been brewing the Ayahuasca vine; if the story would be any different?

I think I might know what your awnser could be.


It seems I have been seeing alot of experienced folk moving towards cactus over everything, of late.

Blessings.




I had caapi vine and I'd use various forms of extract too.  It was always hard for me to differentiate between the different harmala effects and the various levels of DMT.  Since DMT can dramatically change its character and thematic motifs as you raise the dosage it's difficult to say if I am feeling caapi or just the next stage of DMT intoxication.  I'm very aware of the importance of the vine in the Amazon, but still my tentative conclusion is that DMT runs the show and the harmalas play a very minor role.


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: joemolloy]
    #16601783 - 07/27/12 07:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I generally disagree with a lot of his posts but still find him a valuable asset to the community here.  I know i'm not really adding anything to the thread but just wanted to throw in my $0.02


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Re: Why is JOEMOLLY such a downer. [Re: superbob57]
    #16601954 - 07/27/12 07:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

This thread has been closed.

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This forum is about discussing the Psychedelic Experience, not Joe Molloy.


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