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OfflineNoFuture
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what is it?
    #1659836 - 06/24/03 11:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

a friend has been fruiting his poo/straw substrate for about of week.... there wasnt much change to the mycelium on the casing layer but overnight only 2 "pins" appeard, one only a cm tall and one about an inch tall... both are about a quater inch around... a light brown cap looking thing and a white stem, they r kind of fuzzy.... a expierenced friend said he had never seen anything like it..... the other mycelium doesnt look like its ready to pin like that yet... is this normal?


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1660185 - 06/25/03 01:59 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sounds like something went wrong. Too dry, or maybe not enough air exchanges.

Was there mycelium visible through the casing layer before fruitng conditions?


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Re: what is it? [Re: angryshroom]
    #1661008 - 06/25/03 12:14 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

it got plenty of air exchange, 4 hours of light a day, temp was 74.... the humidity was at 80 and the casing layer could have been a little dry... getting poloriod film today so i can post a pic


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1661274 - 06/25/03 02:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yep... polaroids suck... the picture came out realy shitty so i tried to recreat them in photoshop as best as i could..... should i just pick them and wait for normal shit to grow or leave them and see what happens.....



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    #1661382 - 06/25/03 02:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: what is it? [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1661388 - 06/25/03 02:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

That's a nice shot. What kind do you have?


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    #1661396 - 06/25/03 02:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: what is it? [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
    #1661427 - 06/25/03 03:00 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

heh... those are creeper too, so eh, make mine look like that!... no other pins yet but the "caps" are starting to get darker so im just gonna pray that they are huge pins... unless some1 tells me to pick them.......


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1661431 - 06/25/03 03:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Humidity at 80%? Yep that is too dry.
Do you mean to say that you were doing a casing run, but had not induced fruiting yet? If so then your humidity should be at 95%+. (same conditions as for spawn run.
You could try and do a deep scratch on the casing layer and slowly add more moisture (using a mister) over the next few days to try and salvage it.
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Re: what is it? [Re: Alkaloids]
    #1661449 - 06/25/03 03:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

its a casing and its been fruiting for a little over a week now..... i thaught 80% was perfect for a casing

80% is good?


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1661492 - 06/25/03 03:21 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ok... i think there might be some confuson with nomenclature
right after you have cased the straw/poo mixture with an appropriate casing layer the humidity should stay at 90%+ (and be in complete darkness) until you see some mycelium just below the surface of the casing layer.
At this point in time to induce primordia formation fresh air and light should be introduced and the humidity should not drop below ~95%
After you have pins you can increase the air exchange rate a bit, but don't let humidity go below around 85%. These are the conditions that you should maintain throughout the cropping phase.
is this helpful?


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Re: what is it? [Re: Alkaloids]
    #1661516 - 06/25/03 03:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yes... most definatly, but i cant get the humidity any higher than 80 so should i mist lets say like twice a day.... the casing layer was incubated at 85 untill mycelium poked through then was patched until an even layer of mycelium was on top.... after that temp was droped to 74 and was fanned at least 4 times a day reciving 4 hours of light a day.... it sat for around a week until now... there is rysomorpic(spelling?) mycelium growing in strands upwards throught the casing.... could it be a mutation?.... would i be better off deep scratching, letting it sit.... or plant it and see if somthing grows outside?


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1661550 - 06/25/03 03:47 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You can mist as often as you need to maintain proper humidity levels. *lol* don't worry about that.  Just make sure that you don't get panning on the surface from to much misting. 
  Is the rhizomorphic growth pretty uniform across the surface?  Could be that the strain is just a bit slower to pin.  I have seen trays take up to 2 wks before they have a nice layer of pins. 
  My recommendation is that you increase misting just a little and keep up what you have been doing. 
I wouldn't worry about mutations right now.  :smile:
  hope this helps with your problems 


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Re: what is it? [Re: Alkaloids]
    #1661652 - 06/25/03 04:36 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

heh... sweet? one more question.... should i pick those two huge things or let them be?


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1661687 - 06/25/03 04:51 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

if they strat to turn dark, like black, make sure and pick them.


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1662128 - 06/25/03 07:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

damn i have my allen strain that did the fuckin same thing.... i posted about it and the dude told me to pick them so they aren't the only ones sucking up all the nutrients. when that happned to mine i just let them grow and like 9 others grew


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Re: what is it? [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1667037 - 06/27/03 12:04 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

well... i found out what those pins were... not cubensis!... has anyone else had radon mushrooms pop out of thier casing?... i just figure it must have come from the poo and survived pasturization... they have been picked and now the casing is pinning normaly.... that is fucking strange?


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Re: what is it? [Re: NoFuture]
    #1667067 - 06/27/03 12:17 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

hahah thats crazy... you got your first mushroom and it wasn't even what you were tyring to grow


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Re: what is it? [Re: shroomizzy]
    #1667088 - 06/27/03 12:29 PM (14 years, 2 months ago)

lol, that's like a shroom suprise cake! but the suprise sucks!
...entertaining though... :grin:


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