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InvisibleSclorch
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"Show Me" Time!! Yay!
    #1658479 - 06/24/03 02:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Okay... I'm ready for it all.
I'm ready for a complete shift in my consciousness.
I'm ready for a transformation.

Help me believe.

Post all evidence in this thread, right here, right now.


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658494 - 06/24/03 02:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658508 - 06/24/03 02:50 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Let none deceive another,
Or despise any being in any state.
Let none through anger or ill-will
Wish harm upon another.
Even as a mother protects with her life
Her child, her only child,
So with a boundless heart
Should one cherish all living beings:
Radiating kindness over the entire world
Spreading upwards to the skies,
And downwards to the depths;
Outward and unbounded,
Freed from hatred and ill-will.
Whether standing or walking, seated or lying down
Free from drowsiness,
One should sustain this recollection.
This is said to be the sublime abiding.

--Shakyamuni Buddha


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1658589 - 06/24/03 03:33 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Okay... so I can't join the club then?

Is it because I haven't paid my dues?
I have a frickin' receipt for them!


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658598 - 06/24/03 03:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

OK fine. I'll demonstrate some of my paranormal powers. stand back now...

I prophesy that nobody will be able to present you with any evidence.



whew, that took a lot out of me. I must rest.



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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658718 - 06/24/03 04:32 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Okay... so I can't join the club then?




No, no, no, I just dug into my bag of quotes (before seeing Enter's response even) and thought that this one might contain some of the stuff that you were asking for. It was just a reaction to your call "Show Me".

Of course you can join the club. All I'm trying to say is that it takes more than a couple of grams of mushrooms to produce the shift in consciousness that you are asking for. You also need to be in a receptive state of mind.


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1658770 - 06/24/03 04:51 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, it's all you man, the balls in your court. you can take a horse to the water but you can't make it drunk. etc.


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Malachi]
    #1658811 - 06/24/03 05:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

you can take a horse to the water but you can't make it drunk




Yeah water doesn't work to good for that. Try giving him an IV of vodka or everclear.


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Malachi]
    #1658812 - 06/24/03 05:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I think, therefore I am


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1658849 - 06/24/03 05:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

elightenment has to be a paradox wrapped in an enigma being juggled by a koan. how could it be straightforward?


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The ultimate meaning of our being can only be fulfilled in the paradoxical leap beyond the tragic-demonic frustration. It is a leap from our side, but it is the self-surrendering presence of the Ground of Being from the other side.
- Paul Tillich


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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Malachi]
    #1659070 - 06/24/03 06:48 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It appears that infidelGOD's prediction was correct.


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InvisibleZero7a1
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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Sclorch]
    #1659454 - 06/24/03 09:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

What is there to believe?
What evidence do you need of change?

what if you changed and you didnt know? To me a shift in conciousness is like waking up in a dream, "going lucid". for one reason or another you "wake up" cause at first its a belief that you are in control, then it is a reality.

To me you believe what you want, cause you do it anyway, its not that i believe in that, its just thats how life is. People go around believing what they want, skepticism is the end product, isnt a belief just the trust of an idea? the same as what you hold to your own ideas?

I have changed because i have been able to and i have seen that oppurtunity and noticed that i should take it. Because i believe in the evolution of myself and the world around me. Know that you believe, be skeptical of what you believe in, believe that you are skeptical, change is a fact not a belief.  :bong:

if im not getting what your getting at LET ME KNOW!!! pleease  :grin:


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Sclorch]
    #1659473 - 06/24/03 09:12 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Here's some right off the bat.

http://www.noetic.org/ions/archivelisting_frame.asp?ID=428

http://www.biomindsuperpowers.com/Pages/Ebon1.html

I ask you what is evidence. True evidence would be something like telekinesis, performed right in front of you, or an offical goverment document (signed and sealed). So i ask you what agian is evidence?
I could show you websites with studys all day and you probiblily won't believe.

Quote:

Common Misconception #3: There are only two sides, Psionics exist, or they don't.

Many diehard skeptics like Randi will say that there is no way it can exist, and they will ask for 100% repetitive accuracy that can be reproduced by anyone anytime. These criteria are impossible to meet. Psionics is still a controversial field, current evidence can lead you to either condition. We at this website are going under the scientific fact that Psionic abilities have been reproduced in government labs all around the world. Therefore, we cannot argue with the fact that they exist. So how am I skeptical? I am not skeptical of the ability, but of the person who claims to have it. Until there is some kind of evidence that he possesses the ability he claims, I consider him "possibly capable of doing what he does". "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

Common Misconception #4: There is no scientific evidence for the existence of Psi.

Instead of going on in length about the Ganzfeld experiments, Soviet Research, and the CIA, I simply point you to our Scientific Research Section, which has links to many abstracts and conclusive projects that prove the existence of Psi.





www.Psipog.net


( Johnnyfive NOTE/JOKE: Its magic, if this isn't magic, what is, of course there will be no solid evidence of it. ITS MAGIC! ) magic is science and vis versa,... get it?


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And the gameshow host rings the buzzer (brrnnntt) oh and now you get a face full of face!


Edited by johnnyfive (06/24/03 09:19 PM)


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1659491 - 06/24/03 09:21 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Many diehard skeptics like Randi will say that there is no way it can exist, and they will ask for 100% repetitive accuracy that can be reproduced by anyone anytime.

How can I possiby believe ANYTHING on this website after this blatant lie? The Randi Million Dollar Challenge does NOT ask for 100% accuracy at all; nor under any and all conditions.

In fact, he is willing to help design the test in conjunction with the claimant.

What he does demand is, that he and his boys are allowed to check out and witness every facet of the experiment to rule out fraud and that the results so far exceed chance as to be irrefutable; otherwise everyone would just guess like in a lottery, until someone won.


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The proof is in the pudding.


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Offlinejohnnyfive
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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: Swami]
    #1660280 - 06/25/03 02:32 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Damm i didn't read it,lol. I agree only with the fact that yes the website can be fraudulant. Other than that...

I agree with enter : "No one can show you the matrix. You have to see it for yourself."



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Edited by johnnyfive (06/25/03 09:58 PM)


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1660524 - 06/25/03 04:42 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hokum's Maxim: Trickery must (and will) be at least suspected until subjective experience proves otherwise.

Sclorch - complete change in consciousness & transformation you say? 1) Find a *biiiiig* hammer; 2) Aim for that dent on the top of your skull....

Evidence aside, does anyone know *anyone* who had a radical and sudden *positive* complete change in consciousness? I know my consciousness has changed since I was say, 9 years old. But I can't recall any radical shifts (unless you count my first experience with dimitri, and even that changed only metaphors). My point is maybe it's just a gradual thing to be expanded?




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InvisibleSclorch
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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1661192 - 06/25/03 01:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

More questions and excuses, still no evidence for anything extraordinary... I guess I can't yet join the Believer's Club.

I'll bring up this thread in the future when someone claims to have evidence for {insert esoterica here}.


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! *DELETED* [Re: Sclorch]
    #1661334 - 06/25/03 02:30 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1661921 - 06/25/03 06:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

evidence of what? enlightenment is a feeling, sure i could describe exactly how its done, but then again would you even take my advice?, well i am gonna tell you any ways: base of spine, chin, upper lip,ears,a star will appear out of the blinking light, quite your mind, merge with it, then you will have all the evidence you need.


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Re: "Show Me" Time!! Yay! [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1662565 - 06/25/03 09:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well I had quite a radical shift in consciousness about a year ago, in the matter of about 48 hours. It started when I came upon the Shroomery forums and there was much debate between Swami and Shroomism about aliens at that time. I had never entertained such "nonsense" before and sided mentally with the skeptics. However, my curiosity was immediately sparked and after intense nonstop research into the subject that lasted a couple days I had a tremendous spiritual awakening. I experienced altered consciousness for the first time without drugs or meditation, I saw and felt things so incredibly bizarre, thoughts that felt so "right" that they couldn't be ignored, not just about the existence of other life in the universe but about the nature of "God", our reality and existence. It was like I was alseep up until then and all of a sudden I was hit over the head with a sledge hammer. My view of reality was permanently changed, though I have refined my beliefs according to knowledge and experience I've been steadily gaining since then. I will never forget that point in my life, it changed my entire life and outlook. And all thanks to the local residents of the Shroomery S&P forum! *Raises beer in toast*

So, in conclusion, it's possible Sclorch that you might one day realize something you may have ignored or refused to "believe", but everyone learns differently and not everyone learns the same things. It's probable that not everyone is even likely to awaken so quickly as I feel I have. I don't consider myself special but I do feel lucky as my life has been generally nothing but posivity and joy ever since. Good luck to you as your quest for the Truth continues! Just never stop asking:

"Why do I exist?"


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