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Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a)
    #1657661 - 06/24/03 04:00 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)



Life is (partly) an asymptotic approach to the unattainable.


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1657686 - 06/24/03 04:12 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

that reminds me of a quote, by huraki murakami, my favourite author:

"Humans are immortal in their thought. Though strictly speaking, not immortal, but endlessly, asymptomatically close to immortal. Thats eternal life."


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1657689 - 06/24/03 04:14 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

cool.
kind of like the inverse of the 2012 concept:
progress as a function of time, 2012 as the asymptote

but I think it is exponential, not parabolic.
of course, we can't tell at this stage of the game...


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1657753 - 06/24/03 04:44 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

2012.2012.......reverse-motion processing...

repeat apocalypse-format systematics.

reproductive thought reproduces reproductions.


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1657802 - 06/24/03 05:20 AM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Life is a minestrone
Served up with parmesan cheese
Death is a cold Lasagne
Suspended in deep freeze

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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1657963 - 06/24/03 08:39 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

You forgot to include the x-planet drop off at t=2012...


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Seuss]
    #1658119 - 06/24/03 11:12 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Now why the hell do you guys have to try to slip 2012 into every frickin' thread?


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658135 - 06/24/03 11:23 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Sclorch said:
Now why the hell do you guys have to try to slip 2012 into every frickin' thread?




It is a conspiracy, I am pretty sure.... something to do with Microsoft, Senator Hatch, and the RIAA...

In my original reply, I was being somewhat serious... There are always going to be catostrophic events that will insert uncertainty into your graph. In a way, these can help bounce a society/population out of a local minimum.


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658161 - 06/24/03 11:43 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Bought a hawaiian shirt at Ross today. You know - the kind with garish floral patterns and palm trees that even a tourist wouldn't wear. Total came to $20.12. Coincidence or the end of the world as we know it?


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Swami]
    #1658166 - 06/24/03 11:46 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

lol


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658182 - 06/24/03 11:59 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Interesting graph concept however I would have oriented it this way as the early development is slow to the approach and rapidly reaches the asymtote limit

I feel we aproach the asymtote later in life rather than earlier.
interesting concept but hardly an acurate graph of the actual progresion of advancement but an excellent template or generalization.
WR:rasta:
edit the freaking picture I so laboriously reversed did not post but I think ya'll get the idea 


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658377 - 06/24/03 01:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Its our subliminal messaging


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1658488 - 06/24/03 02:38 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

WR: I feel we aproach the asymtote later in life rather than earlier. interesting concept but hardly an acurate graph of the actual progresion of advancement but an excellent template or generalization. (sic.... all)

Yes, I know it was a generalization, but you all get the point, right?


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658496 - 06/24/03 02:45 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

You know what I just noticed. So many supposedly enlightened minds here and yet there hasn't been anything great to come out of all the big ol discussions where you divulge the secrets of the universe. Instead everything ends with a *thud*.

Ever noticed that?


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658513 - 06/24/03 02:53 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

That graph is incorrect. The line should be merged with the dotted asymptote.


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: ] * 1
    #1658544 - 06/24/03 03:15 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

do you know what an asymptote is?


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: infidelGOD]
    #1658561 - 06/24/03 03:22 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Haha yes, it's an unapproachable line on a graph. Let me rephrase that then: The graph should depict the solid line straight across IN PLACE of the asymptote.

Wise guy. :smirk: 


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: ]
    #1658588 - 06/24/03 03:31 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

The graph should depict the solid line straight across IN PLACE of the asymptote.

No... I got it right.
Only an egotist would actually think they could merge with or cross the asymptote of the unattainable.


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658605 - 06/24/03 03:39 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Now you're missing my point. Everything is already perfect and complete. The unattainable does not exist, because it is just that: unattainable. There is no reason to reach for perfection or completeness because you're already there. If you are reaching, you're trying to get someplace that doesn't exist, which is... impossible.

Edit: Here's a better explanation: It's like a blind man being inside a house while wanting to get inside the house. "Goddamnit let me in!" as he stands in the kitchen of the house. He's already there, but no one is around to tell him.


Edited by Max Headroom (06/24/03 03:42 PM)


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: ]
    #1658640 - 06/24/03 03:50 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I suppose I'm referring to the common concept of perfection and completeness.  However, survival, is most definitely unattainable in the end... no matter how you look at it. :wink:


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1658648 - 06/24/03 03:54 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Yes, I know it was a generalization, but you all get the point, right? 



Absolutly,It is absolutly impossible to reach the absolute.Your asymtote absolutly demonstrates this (absolutly joking :wink: )but doesn't the asymptote create a shadow of the absolute in parallel(or nearly as one is higher on the graph)?does this not create an absolute vector effectively creating a simultaneous "shadow" absolute whose vector logrhythmicly approaches parallel?
The root of imperfection lies at a slope which approaches but cannot reach perfection :grin:
Cool thought
Your almost approaching spirituality via pragmatism,as they say "All roads lead to Rome" Mine was particle and astro physics.
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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: ]
    #1658650 - 06/24/03 03:57 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Max Headroom said:
The unattainable does not exist, because it is just that: unattainable.




I cannot accelerate to the speed of light because I have a rest mass greater than zero. The speed of light exists even though for me it is unattainable.

In the example of the graph above, sum 1/x for all positive integers x. If I take the limit of the summation, I do indeed get a value. However, if I try to calculate that value through the summation, I will never be able to obtain the value, but isntead only a very close aproximation.


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Seuss]
    #1658680 - 06/24/03 04:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Death is a concept i cannot fathom.
Do you mortals not despair?


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Scarfmeister]
    #1658727 - 06/24/03 04:35 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Swami]
    #1658758 - 06/24/03 04:47 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Swami said:
Bought a hawaiian shirt at Ross today. You know - the kind with garish floral patterns and palm trees that even a tourist wouldn't wear. Total came to $20.12. Coincidence or the end of the world as we know it?




they're called aloha shirts and - tourists notwithstanding - they are worn by all sorts of local folk to church, special events, lu'aus, etc... they aren't 'garish', they're just colorful. I'm sick of homosexuals and frat boys co-opting hawaiian culture.


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Seuss]
    #1658763 - 06/24/03 04:48 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Let me be more clear with what I meant by that.

A moment in which you are travelling at the speed of light does not and will not exist. Therefore such a moment is unattainable. This does not preclude something else from travelling at the speed of light (mainly light :smirk:). Thus the speed of light exists ONLY because it is attainable by light itself. We may observe that it exists, but not from our own experience of that speed. Something may travel much faster than the speed of light in thought or in theory, but until something demonstrates this speed physically, for all intents and purposes it does not exist.

Hey look! I'm capable of materialist reduction, too!

Of course, ironically, anything and everything exists in thought or theory. 


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: ]
    #1659093 - 06/24/03 06:54 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Please Note: Graph v. 3.4b is NOT a Sclorch-approved Graph O'Life.


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Re: [Re: Sclorch]
    #1659161 - 06/24/03 07:16 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: tomatoes]
    #1659303 - 06/24/03 08:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

Nope... though it is an interesting take on how "Stability" factors into the equation. Stability, too, is (generally) an unattainable, though there are brief moments of stability... they do not qualify for Stability-with-a-capital-S.

Moving on to Graph 3.4d....


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Seuss]
    #1659469 - 06/24/03 09:10 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

I cannot accelerate to the speed of light because I have a rest mass greater than zero. The speed of light exists even though for me it is unattainable.

Marlon Brandon must be one fast dude as his mass is approaching infinity.



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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Swami]
    #1659683 - 06/24/03 10:37 PM (18 years, 3 months ago)

*brando


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Re: Sclorch's Graph of Life (v. 3.4a) [Re: Sclorch]
    #1660071 - 06/25/03 01:05 AM (18 years, 3 months ago)



:eyemouth: 


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