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Ara16w
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Oven Drying Concerns
#16574632 - 07/23/12 03:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have a toaster oven with a batch of mushrooms drying on a sheet of double layered aluminum foil. The way it's built, the hot air is pumped out near the top of the toaster oven so I have it set on about 200, but the mushies down below are lucky to see 120 with the door propped open. The concern is that some of the smaller mushies seem quite water logged to the extent of looking nearly rotted. I know that they will eventually dry off, but is there reason to be concerned? Discoloration is unavoidable using this method as well, but considering it takes 2-3 hours to dry tiny mushrooms I don't think I have to be too worried about heat destruction and potency loss.
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Ara16w]
#16574732 - 07/23/12 03:25 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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The waterlogged mushrooms will be fine when they dry out, and they will dry.
Invest in a food dehydrator in my opinion, they are great.
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i dunno man, the only times i saw weak ass shrooms i had dried them in an oven. now i use a food dehydrator, and even set on 165f theyre still great shrooms and don't seem to lose any magic. i dn't recommend the oven drying method, if that were my only option i'd use a fan and desiccant.
Edited by Fungal growth (07/23/12 03:35 PM)
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TheEaglesGift
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Fungal growth said: i dunno man, the only times i saw weak ass shrooms i had dried them in an oven. now i use a food dehydrator, and even set on 165f theyre still great shrooms and don't seem to lose any magic. i dn't recommend the oven drying method, if that were my only option i'd use a fan and desiccant.
Agreed, I wouldn't trust my mushrooms in the oven.
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Ara16w
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Isn't the problem with the oven heat destroying the active compounds? I'm not sure how long food dehydrators take, but 2 hours for tiny mushrooms to dry sounds very reasonable. It's going to be about 3-4 for the bigger ones and once again, it's indirect heat. Heat travels up. The heat source is above the mushrooms in the toaster oven and they're probably getting 120 degrees at best which is comparable to a food dehydrator. The dehydrator may have a fan though, unsure on that one.
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Ara16w]
#16574992 - 07/23/12 03:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ara16w said: Isn't the problem with the oven heat destroying the active compounds? I'm not sure how long food dehydrators take, but 2 hours for tiny mushrooms to dry sounds very reasonable. It's going to be about 3-4 for the bigger ones and once again, it's indirect heat. Heat travels up. The heat source is above the mushrooms in the toaster oven and they're probably getting 120 degrees at best which is comparable to a food dehydrator. The dehydrator may have a fan though, unsure on that one.
Not sure at what temp the actives get destroyed but it's up there. If you want Google "home made dehydrator"....There are many ways to do it, a lot of pages dedicated to hit. Not expensive at all. Just a bulb, aluminum foil, a cardboard box, and some type of small fan......Very easy and cheap if you feel like building it. You can build it at any size.....small ones to dry an ounce, or big ones to dry several.
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Go get a dehydrator at a thrift store for a couple bucks.
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Doc_T]
#16575156 - 07/23/12 04:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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You guys just aren't having the toaster oven huh lol? The hell with whether or not it works efficiently, dehydrator up fool!
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Ara16w]
#16575164 - 07/23/12 04:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Well look, for the number of mushrooms you can dry in a toaster oven you might as well just put them on your windowsill.
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Doc_T]
#16575231 - 07/23/12 04:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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after a harvest if i just laid them out on a pan in room temperature would that be ok? or does it need to be dehydrated a particular way?
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Ara16w]
#16575248 - 07/23/12 04:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ara16w said: You guys just aren't having the toaster oven huh lol? The hell with whether or not it works efficiently, dehydrator up fool!
what?
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serotonin storm said: after a harvest if i just laid them out on a pan in room temperature would that be ok? or does it need to be dehydrated a particular way?
The object is to dry them out and not let them rot. I don't understand when people complain at this stage. You just spent weeks getting to this point. Why not do the research and spend the extra 10 bucks on drying them out right.
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Edited by i GrOw StUFF (07/23/12 04:35 PM)
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Ara16w]
#16575507 - 07/23/12 05:06 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I agree with everything before. No ovens. Fan and then desiccant.
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i dunno why the oven fucks up peoples shrooms, but i'm not alone. it doesn't seem like it should affect potency drying them at 200f, but it does in an oven. my best guess is the temp fluctuates a lot. or hotspots. i would think you would have similar problems in a toaster oven, but if you have/get a thermometer put it where the shrooms will go and check it every few minutes. but i wouldn't.
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serotonin storm said: after a harvest if i just laid them out on a pan in room temperature would that be ok? or does it need to be dehydrated a particular way?
You want them to end up cracker dry and stored away as quickly as you reasonably can do it. Fan->dehydrator->desiccant is the standard method because it works well, quickly, and cheaply.
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Re: Oven Drying Concerns [Re: Doc_T]
#16575584 - 07/23/12 05:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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serotonin storm said: after a harvest if i just laid them out on a pan in room temperature would that be ok? or does it need to be dehydrated a particular way?
You want them to end up cracker dry and stored away as quickly as you reasonably can do it. Fan->dehydrator->desiccant is the standard method because it works well, quickly, and cheaply.
Yessum , best way to do it rite there
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Ara16w
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Fungal growth said: i dunno why the oven fucks up peoples shrooms, but i'm not alone. it doesn't seem like it should affect potency drying them at 200f, but it does in an oven. my best guess is the temp fluctuates a lot. or hotspots. i would think you would have similar problems in a toaster oven, but if you have/get a thermometer put it where the shrooms will go and check it every few minutes. but i wouldn't.
I can put my hand in there at the same level they're at and it's only mildly uncomfortable, not burning so getting that 140+ temp that destroys it shouldn't be an issue. My concern cleared up as well. The ones that were soggy dried out fine.
I looked into this a good bit before posting. I realize that a lot of people hate this option because they've fucked up their shrooms, but a small number uses it reliably.
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