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topdog82
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Nbome vs. LSD?
#16574923 - 07/23/12 03:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Conversation with a friend: Me: So do you know if his acid hook is legit? Friend: Ya, $13 a piece for good shit Me: Kinda steep. And most acid these days is shit. I don't trust paying $13 for one hit. I think we should try one each and see if it's worth the money Friend: Dude its strong. I trust the guy. He said it's some designer shit or something
So at that moment, I knew that it was Nbome. I have never had it. My question to you all: Is it worth the money? I am definitely going to try it at least one tab. What should I expect? What are the differences, if any?
Some people on the forums have said it doesn't have the same head space, divinity or euphoria. Others have said that it has more euphoria Others have said they can't tell the difference
Either way, sounds like Nbome that is easier on the head so far from my reading. Also a shorter duration would be to my benefit. The idea of actually sleeping after tripping is a big plus
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82]
#16574962 - 07/23/12 03:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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try it and see if you like it, i personally think its worth it if you cant find the real deal, but tell your friend not to call it acid if it isnt really lsd
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82] 1
#16574965 - 07/23/12 03:57 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do not pay $13 for 25i-nbome DO NOT.
That shit cost less than $3 or $4. Not worth it.
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82]
#16574995 - 07/23/12 03:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is worth the time in my opinion but not for that price. When people want some from me I usually ask for $2-3 per tab. The guy most likely paid less than fifty cents per hit so that is a big ripoff.
I recommend you take a magnesium supplement shortly before you trip if you try it. That can decrease some muscle tension. In my experiences it can be more euphoric and visual than acid depending on the dose. But less deep or meaningful. It can still definitely produce a fun time but everyone reacts to it differently.
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topdog82
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I know I am going to try it. If I like it, I'll get a sheet online
My main question is what exactly the difference between the two chemicals?
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Sheekle
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just because its a designer drug doesn't mean its nbome, it could be a dox, hell it could be acid and when he said "designer shit" he want reffering to it being a designer drug. i doubt the latter, though.
either way, it could be nbome and it could be not.
here's what i have to say about the nbome i've tried tho:
25inbome: toxic feeling, feels bad for body/heart and circulation, feels like pschedelic amphetmaine, feels weird and un-natural, no mindfuck, little spirituality
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82]
#16575017 - 07/23/12 04:03 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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its like comparing weed to spice. its a slightly different high with slightly different visuals, but pretty much the same type of experience. also the long term effects of nbome are unknown
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: sailing]
#16575071 - 07/23/12 04:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah the only thing i dont like about the Nbomes is that you feel like your frying soo hard. But your head is clear, kinda creeps me out.
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Demonic_Chronic
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LSD should not be compared to the Nbomes...Ever, ones an ergoline and ones a phenethylamine..
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topdog82
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: sailing]
#16575100 - 07/23/12 04:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Honestly, this sounds like a more casual alternative to LSD. shorter duration, cheaper. More euphoric. Less intense head space. Sounds like something I would want to get drunk on. Does that sound safe?
For higher dose trips I think I would do LSD, because the hypertension/toxic feel would be overwhelming
I am def up for paying $13 a piece for the first trial hit
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Let's see...
One is a valuable entheogen with legitimate therapeutic uses.
The other is some tweaky toxic bullshit that does nothing good for the body/mind and has no established safety profile.
You decide which is which.
And if it is nbome, that's a super jacked price. Just save yourself the time, the money, and the neurons and pass.
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82]
#16575118 - 07/23/12 04:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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try it by itself so you have a better idea of what it does, if you get more, then you can experiment with combining alcohol or smoking weed with it or whatever
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: sailing]
#16575240 - 07/23/12 04:31 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thinking about it... It has no established safety profile
I think part of it is placebo, because people who take it in medium 1-2 hit dosages don't seem to notice the difference to the real thing I mean LSD was a research chemical in a sense. I think that Nbome has potential for a less intense trip. To assume Nbome is neurotoxic/toxic sounds extreme. It is known to create hypertension and thats all. Anything more than that sounds like an conservative acidhead's bias.
Not saying that it sounds good or bad. Just saying that it isn't horrible
I am def going to try it out and maybe write a trip report later. Especially because I have no access to the real thing
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topdog82
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: sailing]
#16575266 - 07/23/12 04:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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sailing said: its like comparing weed to spice. its a slightly different high with slightly different visuals, but pretty much the same type of experience. also the long term effects of nbome are unknown
What do you prefer and why?
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82]
#16575457 - 07/23/12 05:01 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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if its ''designer'' it could be anything like DOI, DOC, 25I-NBOMe, 25C-NBOMe, in my experience i recently tried acid and it is VERY simular to 25C-NBOMe people say they cant be compared because they love acid and bla bla, but in reality there both a psychedelic drug, they both make you trip, slightly different properties for eg there is more bodyload with the NBOMe's which can sometimes feel slightly discomforting but NEVER to the point where its too much, but yeah for that price your getting ripped off i can get 40 hits of 500 micrograms of 25C for only £20......if u have it and it lats 6(ish) hours its a NBOMe, if it lats 12(ish) hours then u got LSD if it lasts 20+ hours then u got a DOX....just try 1 tab just to be safe though as everybody reacts to every drug differently and u might be ultra sensitive to the chemical you get...always better to be safe than be sorry.
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topdog82
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I am sure that it is Nbome because they are on blotters
@bolton: I feel you on that one. LSD is sacred. That doesn't mean Nbome isn't sacred. It's just different
One psychedelic has one purpose, LSD has a more powerful effect/purpose
How long would you say it would take to sleep?
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82]
#16575681 - 07/23/12 05:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah there just slightly different, and yeah acid is more powerful on the mind but the visuals are pretty much the same just slightly different...and with 25c-nbome off 1 hit i take it up my nose in diluted liquid and it comes on in 15 mins peaks at about 45 mins peaks 4 hours then comes down for a further 3-4 hours so all in all around 6-9 hours.
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: topdog82]
#16575686 - 07/23/12 05:37 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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topdog82 said:
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sailing said: its like comparing weed to spice. its a slightly different high with slightly different visuals, but pretty much the same type of experience. also the long term effects of nbome are unknown
What do you prefer and why?
I finally had real acid for the first time on friday, if you havent had the real deal before then its almost impossible to tell the difference, but real acid is just so much of a cleaner feeling and just so epic. its very hard to describe
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Re: Nbome vs. LSD? [Re: sailing]
#16575774 - 07/23/12 06:00 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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If you're interested in trying what ever this guy has, you should definitely NOT pay $13 for what ever the fuck he is selling. You should offer him $5 or something and let him know that you know he is selling a research chemical.
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It is obviously fine to not like it but don't underestimate the value of the chemical solely from your experience. I have had positive, unique, and ultimately enriching experiences from this chem and I have friends that have as well. Personally, I tend to use 25i for music events and LSD for mind events. But I think there is an inherent value in the psychedelic experience that is attainable with both chemicals.
Not every drug agrees with every person. Some people just like shrooms but not acid. Some people like acid but not shrooms. Some people like acid but not 25i. Some people like them all
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