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 LSDenthusiast
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 Re: Transfer of sexual energy.  [Re: Cactilove]
#16575566 - 07/23/12 05:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Not sure what you mean. If your desire to release is so strong that it is a distraction. Then just release it. Its doing more harm than good if you're struggling all the time. Only do it if you truly consciously want to transmute it at this time in your life.
If anyone wants to try it. You don't have to commit to it for the rest of your life. Just try it for 1 month. Commit to it 100 percent only for a month. Observe how you feel at the end of the month. And make your own conclusions.
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 Cactilove
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like I sleep for 3 or 4 hours get up and I still feel like running up my mountain bare foot. Too much energy. How do I release it?
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: Cactilove]
#16575646 - 07/23/12 05:28 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sit down, meditate. Don't suppress the energy. Open up to it, in meditation it will transmute itself naturally. Feel the heat in the body, and the energy in the spine. Then become aware of awareness. Conscious that you're conscious.
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Cactilove
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Ill try.
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: Cactilove]
#16575914 - 07/23/12 06:33 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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LSDenthusiast said:
I also have experience with this. I agree to some extent with what you said. But I spent years practicing sublimation and transmutation as a Hindu monk. And I still do.
Interesting. What monastic order was it and for how many years, if I may ask?
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Does anyone know anything about how the buddhists transfer their sexual energy? Hs anyone attempted it before? What were the results?
Do you mean the consort practices of the 'highest yoga tantra'? Check the Wiki entry on Buddhist tantra http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tantra_techniques_%28Vajrayana%29 amd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karmamudr%C4%81 for some introduction.
In Buddhism as compared with Taoist practices, from what little I know of it, there is less emphasis on retaining the 'precious body fluids', it's mainly about using the sexual ecstacy to deepen a state of meditation. However some Tibetan Buddhists teachers claim masturbation is not good for you, for whatever reason I am not sure.
I believe it is held by the Gelug school of Tibetan Buddhism, the one headed by the Dalai Lama, that in order to reach 'full enlightenment' there is no alternative to these practices. Some other Tibetan Buddhists don't see it as a necessity.
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: husmmoor]
#16576008 - 07/23/12 06:52 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I cannot see how sexual suppression long term could lead to anything good. Anyone have any idea.
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: Cactilove]
#16576052 - 07/23/12 06:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Question: Do you guys think sexual energy is different than any other form of energy? If yes, why? If no, why not?
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: Kickle]
#16576081 - 07/23/12 07:04 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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another question i have is why does sexual energy build up ? what exactly is happening when one abstains for a period of time and the energy builds up? can this be explained just as hormonal levels, or is that an inadequate explanation?
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: deff]
#16576087 - 07/23/12 07:06 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Whenever I abstained I just got more horney thoughts. I didn't really feel some reservoir was getting filled up with energy. Or maybe I was doin' it wrong. 
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: White Beard]
#16576098 - 07/23/12 07:08 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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well even that... what exactly occurs in the body to elicit 'more horny thoughts'? 
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: deff]
#16576505 - 07/23/12 08:27 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've abstained for transmutation purposes for a period of 3 weeks at a time. I notice clear improvement in mental clarity, "confidence," dream recall and vividness, and energy levels. Whether this can be said to be of a spiritual nature - rather than a strictly hormonal effect - is debatable.
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: deff]
#16576520 - 07/23/12 08:29 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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deff said:
well even that... what exactly occurs in the body to elicit 'more horny thoughts'?
Sounds like something to be explored. 
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: White Beard]
#16576568 - 07/23/12 08:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can tell you from experience that there is some kind of sexual energy in our balls. I have masturbated twice since the beginning of March, did not use porn. I was having sex with my girlfriend but it seems that that does not taint the energy.
I have way more confidence, less anxiety, more energy.. definitely a lot more hornier. Less guilt, too.
Maybe that's just me though
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: deff]
#16576594 - 07/23/12 08:39 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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deff said:
well even that... what exactly occurs in the body to elicit 'more horny thoughts'?
i personally think it's a yearning for union that amplifies these thoughts more than anything. since sex is possibly the most sublime form of union available to humans, if one isn't able to experience it, that desire will increase.
or it's simply just our natural biology influencing us to seek sex for procreation. who knows.
i'd also like to admit once again, that i have no idea what to think about this practice. i gave up on "energy practices" a few days ago (out of disillusionment really), been "releasing" energy daily and i must admit...i DO feel a lot more dull, tired and not nearly as creative. nonetheless, i don't think full celibacy is the answer for me either. it's a bit of a dilemma for me, honestly, trying to find some balance.
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Quote:
LSDenthusiast said:
Not charlatans like Osho, or whoever.
Osho wasn't a charlatan.
I know this is a common regard, but he wasn't.
But if you say anyone is a charlatan,
They become one.
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Vore
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I onno about charlatan but he was pretty fucked up and unrealistic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack
A baby could have easily died as a result.
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LSDenthusiast
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He exploited others for his gain. If you want him to be your teacher, then so be it.
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: Vore]
#16580292 - 07/24/12 02:49 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Vore said:
I onno about charlatan but he was pretty fucked up and unrealistic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack
A baby could have easily died as a result.
The other day a Christian murdered someone.
Should we now discount Jesus and his message?
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Vore
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Jesus didnt coordinate a bioterrorist attack.
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Re: Transfer of sexual energy. [Re: Vore]
#16580417 - 07/24/12 03:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Vore said:
Jesus didnt coordinate a bioterrorist attack.
Neither did Osho. Get your facts right and educate yourself before you believe something.
The Wiki page is a good place to start. 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack.
Or, Rajneeshpuram (The commune).
Let's not forget all the slanderous and fearful propaganda that superseded his teaching; on behalf of local governments and organizations in Oregon, and well as on behalf of the Federal government, he was squashed from the get-go for challenging all social norms. Even Islamic militants hated Osho, and blew up one of his hotels in Portland in 1983 (just a year before his supposed "bioterror" attack).
Ruby Ridge, Waco TX, MKULTRA, and other such cases of government involvement in consensual affairs means we should question more than the surface story. At the very end, the whole commune was shattered and they shipped Osho off.
From Wiki:
"The subsequent criminal investigation, the largest in Oregon history, confirmed that a secretive group had, unbeknownst to both government officials and nearly all Rajneeshpuram residents, engaged in a variety of criminal activities, including the attempted murder of Rajneesh's physician, wiretapping and bugging within the commune and within Rajneesh's home, poisonings of two public officials, and arson.[3][10]"
We could discuss this for awhile. I only want to point out that things aren't always just as they appear, and Osho's message was very simple: it was based in Tantra and mindfulness.
Renouncing culture is dangerous and hunted down, in the same way that distributing psychedelics will get you thrown in a tiny cage for decades.
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