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Starting a Shroomy E-Zine
#16559301 - 07/20/12 10:13 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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There has been some discussion about how we can organize as a community and a group of activists. The Shroomery offers a wonderful trove of information, but it has to be sifted through, distilled and processed before it can be relied on. There is much that is great here, but also a lot to sort through as well.
The E-zine would focus on Drug Legalization in the broadest possible sense. Decreasing harmful usage, new and effective methods of advocacy, public education, helpful research into drug benefits.
This leaves a lot to be determined, however:
How often? -JacksonMetaller suggested once a month, which sounds reasonable. It won't be too large a commitment, but it also won't be an enormous amount of time between issues.
Will it have its own website with archived past issues? What else might the website offer? -Sailing pointed out this possibility. This has the benefit of allowing diversification, we can offer many different things for people coming to read. But it means we need to fund the domain, we have to worry about donations, we need someone to do the technical end.
My suggestion is what if we discussed the possibility of stickying a shroomery post with each month's edition of the e-zine so they all could be found on here, and people could be linked to the e-zine from other websites, but we would still mail out the e-zine. It also could be a non-stickied thread, but that has obvious disadvantages.
Who will put the e-zine together? Who has graphic design skills? Who will post articles? How will we keep people on deadlines for the articles so the e-zine comes out on time? How do we decide what topics to include or not to include?
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
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More questions:
What do we call it?
Who is the audience? Is this just for people in the movement to discuss tactics, and to sharpen our sense of the movement, or is it intended to be read by the drug-naive?
What kind of responsibility do we have to not encourage certain kinds of drug use, and to not advertise lesser known drug practices (RC's, legal highs) that do not need and will not benefit from more publicity.
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PoisonCrazy said: More questions:
What do we call it?
Who is the audience? Is this just for people in the movement to discuss tactics, and to sharpen our sense of the movement, or is it intended to be read by the drug-naive?
What kind of responsibility do we have to not encourage certain kinds of drug use, and to not advertise lesser known drug practices (RC's, legal highs) that do not need and will not benefit from more publicity.
I think we should direct it toward all audiences. both people in the movement, and the drug naive. have articles that dig up interesting facts, and articles talking about the events that lead to various drugs being scheduled, and articles talking about what individuals can do to help out.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
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What about every 3 weeks? extra 5 issues right?
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PeterPanda209 said: What about every 3 weeks? extra 5 issues right?
I don't think that's too often. I think every 10-days to 2 weeks would be too short, but every 3-4 weeks isn't unreasonable to me.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
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PoisonCrazy said: More questions:
What do we call it?
Who is the audience? Is this just for people in the movement to discuss tactics, and to sharpen our sense of the movement, or is it intended to be read by the drug-naive?
What kind of responsibility do we have to not encourage certain kinds of drug use, and to not advertise lesser known drug practices (RC's, legal highs) that do not need and will not benefit from more publicity.
I think we should direct it toward all audiences. both people in the movement, and the drug naive. have articles that dig up interesting facts, and articles talking about the events that lead to various drugs being scheduled, and articles talking about what individuals can do to help out.
The concern if it is directed towards people inside or outside of the movement, is that it censors certain kinds of candid discussion, and it encourages a different tone be taken, or else giving an unflattering impression to people who don't know the issues very well.
I think the idea about articles detailing the events leading to a substance being scheduled would be an amazing idea. There are many many interesting case-studies in drugs and I would be eager to read an article like that! Even though I know many of the stories!
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
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Maybe not brand it Shroomery but still produce from Shroomery.. as to not draw attention here to all the info and discussion that goes on but still to be a product of the sites mass info..
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You should name it "Only users lose drugs"
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PeterPanda209 said: Maybe not brand it Shroomery but still produce from Shroomery.. as to not draw attention here to all the info and discussion that goes on but still to be a product of the sites mass info..
That sounds very right to me. Then we aren't drawing too much attention here but we still share the information with shroomerites.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: King Klick]
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King Klick said: You should name it "Only users lose drugs"
I was thinking (when I was thinking of it as just something for the community) of making the name a play on NORML, calling it:
W elcoming E xperiences I n R eality D istortion
A little light-hearted, but I think generally positive in tone. Nowadays you have a lot more people self-identifying as weird. And it kind of takes ownership of the slight unusualness of these substances.
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#16559537 - 07/20/12 11:01 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Drugs Freedom Reality News Talk
Different. Ie different than your average newsletter. This is about current events, drugs, laws, not being oblivious, knowing what's going on around the world and discussing it.
Just a play off your play off NRML I figure if you're tossing up ideas why not make there options? Lol
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Different. Ie different than your average newsletter. This is about current events, drugs, laws, not being oblivious, knowing what's going on around the world and discussing it.
Just a play off your play off NRML I figure if you're tossing up ideas why not make there options? Lol
Haha. I like that too. I also think playing off NRML (though not necessarily explicitly in the e-zine) will help people mentally position us.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
#16559872 - 07/20/12 12:41 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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The concern if it is directed towards people inside or outside of the movement, is that it censors certain kinds of candid discussion, and it encourages a different tone be taken, or else giving an unflattering impression to people who don't know the issues very well.
I think the idea about articles detailing the events leading to a substance being scheduled would be an amazing idea. There are many many interesting case-studies in drugs and I would be eager to read an article like that! Even though I know many of the stories!
I dissagree with this. One of the bigger issues with the drug war is the misinformation being fed to the american populace. I think that if we include information, facts and myths, lies and truths, it can help outsiders better understand what it is that we do, it also gives us credibility in that we know what the fuck we're talking about as opposed to, 'those druggies, all they do is stare at the ceiling all day, they dont know anything'
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
#16561064 - 07/20/12 04:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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The concern if it is directed towards people inside or outside of the movement, is that it censors certain kinds of candid discussion, and it encourages a different tone be taken, or else giving an unflattering impression to people who don't know the issues very well.
I think the idea about articles detailing the events leading to a substance being scheduled would be an amazing idea. There are many many interesting case-studies in drugs and I would be eager to read an article like that! Even though I know many of the stories!
I dissagree with this. One of the bigger issues with the drug war is the misinformation being fed to the american populace. I think that if we include information, facts and myths, lies and truths, it can help outsiders better understand what it is that we do, it also gives us credibility in that we know what the fuck we're talking about as opposed to, 'those druggies, all they do is stare at the ceiling all day, they dont know anything'
I don't think I was saying we can't include outside people, I was just saying if we do, it will have to be a different kind of discussion. Just like when people with one political opinion chat with people from the same party, they have one kind of talk, and when they chat with people from a different party the conversation changes.
What does everyone think? Should this be something intended to be spread to the masses as well or something for the community alone?
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#16561141 - 07/20/12 04:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think if we take an informative side of things with opinion pieces as wells as informative pieces, it would be fine. theres no need to focus more on one or the other, we can have both. there will be separate articles in each issue, they dont all have to be about the same thing
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
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I wasn't necessarily saying that articles couldn't appeal to both, just more that certain kinds of articles would be inappropriate if you appealed to both.
I was also thinking, we could have some columns where anyone could submit something within certain guidelines on a certain topic, and other columns that would be the same author same theme each publication.
The problem you'll probably run into with an online effort is people promising to do something and then not following through. One way to fix this would be to have each person who wants to do a specific column submit two articles for the first edition, and then sometime in the first 3-6 months in addition to their monthly article, they would need to submit two articles one month, so that you would wind up with a buffer of two months in case they couldn't get one done sometime (we all have busy lives) or if they decided they didn't want to continue.
When I say month, you can replace that with 'every 3 weeks' if we decide on the 3 month cycle.
Does anyone have any burning ideas for columns?
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
#16561796 - 07/20/12 08:38 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Current Drug laws by state/country- a simple table format with drug names down one side and country/state codes across the top a letter (representing the legality) where the drug and location meet. Ie the letter A: (allowed) 100% legal for possession and human consumption the letter R: (restricted) against the law to consume or possession. You can have a legend on the side which lets you know what each letter represents.
Every issue has a drug safety tip of the month. Ex. Testing you ecstasy pill to insure legitimacy. Inform where you can buy a test, how to properly use the test and identify chemicals inside your pill as well as listing all different compounds commonly found in ecstasy pills. Every issue it can be a new drug or safety tip. (Of course not recomendding drug use but rather making sure those who will do so anyways will do it safely and keep our scene safe)
A warning of bad substances going around ie a bad stamped E pill or a bad stamp of Heroin(though I don't touch that shit I can't be a hypocritical them junkies deserve safety too. This can go for blotter. As well.
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PeterPanda209 said: Current Drug laws by state/country- a simple table format with drug names down one side and country/state codes across the top a letter (representing the legality) where the drug and location meet. Ie the letter A: (allowed) 100% legal for possession and human consumption the letter R: (restricted) against the law to consume or possession. You can have a legend on the side which lets you know what each letter represents.
Every issue has a drug safety tip of the month. Ex. Testing you ecstasy pill to insure legitimacy. Inform where you can buy a test, how to properly use the test and identify chemicals inside your pill as well as listing all different compounds commonly found in ecstasy pills. Every issue it can be a new drug or safety tip. (Of course not recomendding drug use but rather making sure those who will do so anyways will do it safely and keep our scene safe)
A warning of bad substances going around ie a bad stamped E pill or a bad stamp of Heroin(though I don't touch that shit I can't be a hypocritical them junkies deserve safety too. This can go for blotter. As well.
Both these are great tips. I had been thinking about drug safety tips but had not considered warnings about bad substances, that could really help people. Also, maybe something on identifying counterfeit substances.
Building a table of drug penalties by state is difficult for a number of reasons because each state divides things up differently and many things are federally scheduled anyway which states often incorporate into their laws so that if it is illegal under federal law it is illegal under state law.
We could have a drug reform book review each month too. It would push us to learn more this way and to give people an avenue for finding information that offers a different view than the conventional DARE 'wisdom'.
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The Drug Users Book Club?
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The problem you'll probably run into with an online effort is people promising to do something and then not following through. One way to fix this would be to have each person who wants to do a specific column submit two articles for the first edition, and then sometime in the first 3-6 months in addition to their monthly article, they would need to submit two articles one month, so that you would wind up with a buffer of two months in case they couldn't get one done sometime (we all have busy lives) or if they decided they didn't want to continue.
I think that is a good idea. Hopefully there will also be other articles from other people just in case.
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Not any good ones, really. I have always wanted to write about how opinions of drugs change over time, from when they were used for religious purposes until now. I could see it being something that a each new column moves it forward in time a bit, or changes to a new substance or something. It was just a rough idea.
I'll try and brainstorm a few good ones.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
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Not any good ones, really. I have always wanted to write about how opinions of drugs change over time, from when they were used for religious purposes until now. I could see it being something that a each new column moves it forward in time a bit, or changes to a new substance or something. It was just a rough idea.
I'll try and brainstorm a few good ones.
Up earlier in the thread sailing mentioned the possibility of a column that details what lead a certain drug to be scheduled, and I think that could definitely include how public opinion changed and for what reasons. I think that a longer perspective on society's view of drugs, being able to see the progression (or regression) over a hundred years will make it harder to unthinkingly support the current view.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
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i second the bad press/blotter report. i was actually just about to suggest it myself :P any dangerous RC prints/pill presses definitely should be publicized. that will require a larger scale effort to get that information though. we need people to keep us posted on the stuff they're running into on the market.
any kind of obvious anniversary stuff in psychedelic history/culture. i also think it's important we include some articles on the use of these drugs in native cultures. things such as ayahuasca and peyote ceremonies. perhaps history and personal experiences if we can find anything. i think it's important that people realize these aren't new things to mankind. most people seem to think that drugs are spawned in underground labs that are aiming to hurt their children.
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Would Preparations/Recipes be too much? ie Ayahuasca, cacti teas, covering the taste of certain edible drugs and/or mixing drugs into your favorite treats?
I feel it can walk too much into Drug Advocating rather than harm reduction but either way I would read it. Just also have to keep in mind not getting it targeted.
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JacksonMetaller said: any kind of obvious anniversary stuff in psychedelic history/culture. i also think it's important we include some articles on the use of these drugs in native cultures.
Agreed. When people take psychedelic drugs on their own, if they choose to, there is always a context and a position in drug history in their mind. If this context is one of hearing about people having 'bad trips' and flipping out. If it is thinking of drugs as something bad that they shouldn't be doing, then this can lead them to have a very different experience than if they think in terms of thousands of years of human use of these substances. Giving people an alternate story and tradition of use than the dominant societal story, opens up more paths for positive experiences.
I definitely agree that we need something on native use. I mean just off the top of my head, I think about the siberian mushroom usage, the mystery of indian 'soma', the marijuana found in a mongolian grave in a finely crafted box. Showing people this is a natural part of society will help them get over some of the unneccessary taboo...
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PeterPanda209 said: Would Preparations/Recipes be too much? ie Ayahuasca, cacti teas, covering the taste of certain edible drugs and/or mixing drugs into your favorite treats?
I feel it can walk too much into Drug Advocating rather than harm reduction but either way I would read it. Just also have to keep in mind not getting it targeted.
Yeah, getting targeted is a concern, and ruining the legal and semi-legal highs people have access to now. Things that are not being enforced now but with a bit of negative press could be... Those I feel we need to steer clear of. Especially if part of the intention hear is to use it to bring in people who are not involved in the subculture.
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perhaps we should also include certain key facts into the history and dangers/benefits of legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco too. just so people start viewing them as part of the same spectrum rather than Alcohol vs Drugs.
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Right on, thought it might be just over the edge.
Drug MYTHBUSTERS?
 Bananadine and Jenkem getting their spotlights LSDs Life Long Trip Nutmeg and Catnip "7 hits makes you legally insane" Marijuana is the gateway drug Which Kills more? Alcohol or Marijuan
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Definitely agreed. Maybe do alcohol's history alongside opium's. When the women's league opposed prohibition, many of them were enjoying 'sleeping tonics' of opiates each night. Alcohol and tobacco are very much part of drug prohibition's history.
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THIS. Crazy how things are categorized.
ie PHARMS- IF A DOC PRESCRIBES IT ITS OK ANY ABUSER IS AT FAULT OF THEIR OWN ALCOHOL- FINE IF UNDER 21 PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES CIGARETTES- FINE IF 18 THEYLL QUIT ONE DAY, JUST DONT BLOW IN MY FACE "DRUGS" ANYTHING IVE NEVER TRIED IS MADE BY THE DEVIL.
Breaking these barriers is really a huge goal imho you dont have to idolize drugs but atleast make them just as equal
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 Bananadine and Jenkem getting their spotlights LSDs Life Long Trip Nutmeg and Catnip "7 hits makes you legally insane" Marijuana is the gateway drug Which Kills more? Alcohol or Marijuan
Nutmeg actually will get you high, it just is really really stupid to do it.
How about also an article:
"Thank drugs for __________." And then go into some contribution drugs made to an invention (the man who invented PCR credits LSD to some extent, as an example), or to artwork, or music, etc.
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Exactly. Make the decision intelligently on how to regulate, and not based on cultural preferences for one drug or class of drugs over another.
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yeah some articles on the great minds that were influenced by drugs would be fantastic. there's a lot of REALLY influential people who admit to using hallucinogens.
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STEVE JOBS - LSD
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steve wozniak, bill gates, sir richard branson, some rich mofo who bailed out mongolia. the list goes on.
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SO far we have a good few ideas on possible articles. How do we want to set this up in terms of editing, how we choose which articles get published, how decisions get made? Any thoughts on that guys?
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hmmmm, not sure. i guess we need some kind of board of directors to approve/manage all this
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steve wozniak, bill gates, sir richard branson, some rich mofo who bailed out mongolia. the list goes on.
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I personally am no good at planning, preparing, setting up, meeting dead lines. So as far as any of that I would have to sit out lol
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steve wozniak, bill gates, sir richard branson, some rich mofo who bailed out mongolia. the list goes on.
Freud, thomas jefferson
francis crick, though that story is debatable. i forget the guys name but some guy got a noble peace prize for some major contribution to genetics that he stated was influenced by psychedelic usage.
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PeterPanda209 said: I personally am no good at planning, preparing, setting up, meeting dead lines. So as far as any of that I would have to sit out lol
neither am i! but as long as you contribute whatever you can it's all good. even if it's just ideas, or reviewing articles that other people write
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steve wozniak, bill gates, sir richard branson, some rich mofo who bailed out mongolia. the list goes on.
Freud, thomas jefferson
francis crick, though that story is debatable. i forget the guys name but some guy got a noble peace prize for some major contribution to genetics that he stated was influenced by psychedelic usage.
Kary Mullis (he invented PCR). I didn't mention crick for that reason, it is open to debate..
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
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that was it! good job
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neither am i! but as long as you contribute whatever you can it's all good. even if it's just ideas, or reviewing articles that other people write
Yeah, I think it should be structured so that you can sit down one evening / weekend and churn out a couple of articles and that's all you need to do for 2 months (besides light editing) if that is all you want to do. If you feel like doing more, I am sure there will be more too, but this seems the best way to do it.
How often are all you guys here on the shroomery? I'm here more days than not...
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all the time. im addicted to this site.
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We can also comb through all the information on the shroomery to find good stories and sources for the various topics we want to go into. Or if we think we have run out of material on a theme, we can try to find more here.
Sailing, Peterpanda, Boldaslove, Jacksonmetaller, do you guys have any particular article from the ones we have brainstormed that you think you would like to write yourself? Do you guys want to write, or is there something else you would like to do on this e-zine?
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
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I will say one thing for sure, I would love To READ it.
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im going to have to read back through this whole thread in the morning and remember everything we discussed. i could try to write an article or two next week after my final. i may get pretty busy during the fall and spring but i'll contribute what i can. there's also a member who posted "the drug war failed" on the pub. he's made an information website. he may be willing to contribute something to this. he seems to be a decent writer who's good at backing his work up with facts.
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O it'll be a great f--kin read.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
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Sailing, Peterpanda, Boldaslove, Jacksonmetaller, do you guys have any particular article from the ones we have brainstormed that you think you would like to write yourself? Do you guys want to write, or is there something else you would like to do on this e-zine?
I love to write, so I would happily write, or contribute to any article at all. I'm also able to do some editing and organizing if need be. I'm on the shroomery almost every day.
Perhaps it was talked about before and I missed it (I didn't read the whole thread carefully, just skimmed), but I think that each article should go through kind of a peer review process. One person writes it and at least one other person reads it and adds their opinion (editing, more material, less material, fact checking) before it goes to the person who will put it all together. I know I would feel a lot more comfortable writing articles if at least one person will be checking my work and tossing in ideas along the way. Also, perhaps some articles could be joint ventures with two or more authors? Yes/no to these ideas?
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O it'll be a great f--kin read. 
Aw yea!
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
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I too am here everyday. Almost 99% of my posts are from my mobile =]
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Hey, I had a half hour of spare time so I whipped up what I pictured an article sounding like. I really don't expect it to be used or anything, it was just so that I could judge what kind of voicing you guys pictured in the magazine. I'm not trying to jump the gun or steal article ideas from people who want to write them (this great idea came from PeterPanda ) or anything like that. Provide as much criticism as you can so that I know what to look for if I write or edit any articles. Thanks!
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Drug Myth Busting #1: Weed is a gateway drug
As the saying goes, if I had a nickel for every time I heard this one. Accusing marijuana of being a gateway drug is a common attack used by anti-marijuana proponents to scare parents and potential users away from cannabis. The claim is one that is often surrounded by inaccuracies from both viewpoints, and is why it is a common drug myth. Hopefully this little article will clarify the confusion and leave you better equipped to make your own decision.
Let’s start by analyzing where this claim originated and what it actually says. It is part of the gateway drug theory, which claims that the use of so-called “soft drugs,” such as marijuana or tobacco, makes a person more likely to become addicted to more dangerous substances and/or become involved in crime and gang-related activities. It is often supported by a variety of statistics and expert opinions detailing how early marijuana usage is a good predictor of later drug use. For example, the Office of National Drug Control Policy, owner of abovetheinfluence.com, provides this quote from the owner and operator of a prominent drug recovery facility: “The younger people begin using marijuana, especially before the age of 21, the likelier they are to become addicted to an addictive substance. Their addiction is both physiological and psychological.” So, does their claim have substance?
The short answer is yes, but the long answer is much more complicated. It is true that statistics show that users of “hard drugs” usually started with cannabis, often at a young age, and that many criminals used marijuana at some point in their lives before committing the crime. However, as any good researcher will tell you, correlation does not equal causation. All it takes to disprove this myth is to show that cannabis is not the cause of the later drug use and that the statistic has been misinterpreted.
For example, a 12-year peer-reviewed study conducted by the American Psychiatric Association found that people using cannabis before other drugs, were no more likely to become addicted to those drugs than people who did not use cannabis first. The RAND corporation arrived at a similar conclusion using a survey and mathematical models to predict drug use. These studies suggest that the gateway drug theory is a clear-cut myth to scare the public away from pot. This, however, is still not quite the full story.
The statistics show there is a link between marijuana and the later use of hard drugs, so where did this link originate? First of all, marijuana is much more readily available to most potential youth drug users, than say heroin or cocaine. Therefore it is much more likely for young adults to use marijuana before trying other drugs, based solely on availability. This would explain the statistic and, as shown above, does not mean marijuana caused the later drug use.
Also, marijuana is a relatively benign substance compared to heroin, methamphetamine, cocaine and other drugs often lumped into this group. As such, it is very rare for a person to use cocaine without trying safer substances first. It is akin to walking before crawling or wanting to learn to drive without learning to ride a bike first. It is possible, but highly unlikely.
There is one final caveat in this story worth mentioning. A study was done comparing cannabis users in San Francisco, where all non-medical marijuana has to be bought illegally, to cannabis users in Amsterdam, where marijuana can be bought in legal coffee shops. The results found that marijuana users in San Fransisco were more likely to have tried opiates, cocaine or ecstasy. The reasons for this were not clear from the study, but one hypothesis is that marijuana being illegal introduces users to the black market and, by association, sources for other substances. If this were true, it would suggest that marijuana is not a gateway drug, but that the whole system of drug scheduling is. Still, these are little more than assumptions and further study is needed to confirm them.
So, where does this leave us? Well, it’s true that early marijuana use is statistically linked to later use of hard drugs. Nonetheless, current research suggests that marijuana is merely a spectator and not the cause of later drug use. It seems, at least for the time being, like the claim is nothing more than another misconception about cannabis.
Note that I only presented the very basics and I encourage you to investigate more for yourselves if you are curious. Feel free to send me anything interesting you happen to stumble upon or to present opposing views and ideas.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
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There you go man, an un-biased report... this helps non users read and not be disgusted too soon to read the whole post which gives us a better chance of them reading the point they'd otherwise not make it too. Fantastic work. I was half expecting you to through in the possibility that alcohol was a more likely candidate to be the gateway drug.
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Cool to see there are so many of us interested in this idea, I would definitely be able to help out with art direction/editing what-have-you as I am a pretty organized person (however basic html is as far as I go with programming language, not that I can't learn if I need to). I'd also be interested in writing articles myself as well as being involved in an editing process so that the zine has a sense of directorial cohesion.
When it comes to the audience though, I think it might be a better idea for us to not directly seek out a "broad masses" demographic, but rather make it something that we and our friends will like, something that speaks to our culture but at the same time legitimizes our place in society by citing scientific works (and maybe making some of our own) that tell the truth about these substances without a fear based approach that is common in most media. Definitely make it something that anybody can read, but in all truth, the people who will be interested in these topics will be people who have experimented in the past with entheogens, or are in social circles that do.
It also may be helpful if we make this more like a lifestyle e-zine with articles on other subjects as well (economics, relationships, current events, shroomery news service etc...) so as to show that this is part of a lifestyle and is not a myopic obsession or addiction that is totally exclusive. Maybe do this further down the road once we can get things really rolling but something to consider nonetheless.
If we take a free-speech, non-violent, scientific approach to doing this I can't see any reason why we would get into any trouble for writing about these topics, especially when we are even seeing some of it leak out into mainstream (I saw "magic-mushrooms" being promoted as psychologically beneficial on CNN not long ago).
Oh, and I got an Idea for a name too (if we are shroomery sponsored we could advertise for them still and possibly be more subtle in our affiliation) we could call it M.K. Kultur (My Kinda Culture) after the MK Ultra projects that US did, the way I see this whole idea is a kind of psychedelic social experiment so I thought that name might be fitting. This is and I am open to all kinds of ideas. This would have to be a community project in order to work so we should all pick something that we like.
Next rational step would be to produce some articles (BoldAsLove is on top of that already ) but also to reach out and see if we can get anybody capable of web/graphic design into the project, if we get enough content together then maybe we could all pitch in (paypal or something) for a month or two of web space and give the thing a test run and see if we generate some more interest from people interested in reading and contributing alike.
Loving everything being said in this thread, My thanks to PoisonCrazy for getting this conversation moving, lets keep it going!!! 
PS: been sober for like a month now, and I go into super intense productive mode when I don't have , so sorry if my post is a little
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TheNuanderthal said: Cool to see there are so many of us interested in this idea, I would definitely be able to help out with art direction/editing what-have-you as I am a pretty organized person (however basic html is as far as I go with programming language, not that I can't learn if I need to). I'd also be interested in writing articles myself as well as being involved in an editing process so that the zine has a sense of directorial cohesion.
Good deal. I'm sure we can use the help!
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TheNuanderthal said: When it comes to the audience though, I think it might be a better idea for us to not directly seek out a "broad masses" demographic, but rather make it something that we and our friends will like, something that speaks to our culture but at the same time legitimizes our place in society by citing scientific works (and maybe making some of our own) that tell the truth about these substances without a fear based approach that is common in most media. Definitely make it something that anybody can read, but in all truth, the people who will be interested in these topics will be people who have experimented in the past with entheogens, or are in social circles that do.
I'm really up in the air about this, I thinkk you might have the right angle. Something that if an average person picked it up, they wouldn't feel it was incredibly biased, or feel that it was some sketchy underground thing, but also something that just kind of caters a little more towards our kind of people.
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TheNuanderthal said: It also may be helpful if we make this more like a lifestyle e-zine with articles on other subjects as well (economics, relationships, current events, shroomery news service etc...) so as to show that this is part of a lifestyle and is not a myopic obsession or addiction that is totally exclusive. Maybe do this further down the road once we can get things really rolling but something to consider nonetheless.
I thought about this too, the possibility of maybe adding some posts on spirituality and such, maybe going into the spirituality and mysticism forum to recruit people interested in writing, but I also realized, we are a very diverse group here on the shroomery. We are divided on racial, cultural, political lines. I'm not sure how much we have as common ground outside of an interest in these sorts of substances, their histories and potential. But also, if we start adding articles on conventionally 'hippie' topics (I am thinking especially of my idea of some spirituality articles) then that does perpetuate a certain image of drug users as... well... hippies. And a lot of good old fashioned christians have serious problems with new age religion / unconventional spirituality in general, and with hippies in particular.
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I am less thinking you could get in trouble for it, and more thinking that it could harm the movement if the e-zine came out wrong. I agree with you that there is not likely much they can officially do to stop something like this.
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TheNuanderthal said: Oh, and I got an Idea for a name too (if we are shroomery sponsored we could advertise for them still and possibly be more subtle in our affiliation) we could call it M.K. Kultur (My Kinda Culture) after the MK Ultra projects that US did, the way I see this whole idea is a kind of psychedelic social experiment so I thought that name might be fitting. This is and I am open to all kinds of ideas. This would have to be a community project in order to work so we should all pick something that we like.
My problem with MKUltra as an inspiration is: they dosed people without their consent, and there were many horrifying experiments included in MKUltra, it wasn't just the weaponization of LSD tests.
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TheNuanderthal said: Next rational step would be to produce some articles (BoldAsLove is on top of that already ) but also to reach out and see if we can get anybody capable of web/graphic design into the project, if we get enough content together then maybe we could all pitch in (paypal or something) for a month or two of web space and give the thing a test run and see if we generate some more interest from people interested in reading and contributing alike.
Agreed, next step is producing articles.
I want to sit for a minute and think of what kind of column I would like to write...
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No problem, I have been kicking the activism idea around for ages, feels good to get to work on it!
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BoldAsLove said: Perhaps it was talked about before and I missed it (I didn't read the whole thread carefully, just skimmed), but I think that each article should go through kind of a peer review process. One person writes it and at least one other person reads it and adds their opinion (editing, more material, less material, fact checking) before it goes to the person who will put it all together. I know I would feel a lot more comfortable writing articles if at least one person will be checking my work and tossing in ideas along the way. Also, perhaps some articles could be joint ventures with two or more authors? Yes/no to these ideas?
Definitely. Some kind of review process is essential. We all bring different perspectives to psychedelics / drug legalization and two sets of eyes are better than one for getting past typos and silly mistakes in formatting etc.
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I thought about this too, the possibility of maybe adding some posts on spirituality and such, maybe going into the spirituality and mysticism forum to recruit people interested in writing, but I also realized, we are a very diverse group here on the shroomery. We are divided on racial, cultural, political lines. I'm not sure how much we have as common ground outside of an interest in these sorts of substances, their histories and potential. But also, if we start adding articles on conventionally 'hippie' topics (I am thinking especially of my idea of some spirituality articles) then that does perpetuate a certain image of drug users as... well... hippies. And a lot of good old fashioned christians have serious problems with new age religion / unconventional spirituality in general, and with hippies in particular.
I think it would be valid and interesting, though, to talk about how closely spirituality and psychedelics are tied together. It seems like such a huge aspect of the experience that we shouldn't over look.
Also, maybe this is going a bit too far, but I think it would be helpful and interesting to include one or two really well written trip reports in the magazine. It might be a little risky if we want it to reach a much wider audience, but I think it could have a lot to offer. We could ask people to submit them, or read some from the Trip Reports forum or Erowid and ask permission to use them. What do you think?
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There you go man, an un-biased report... this helps non users read and not be disgusted too soon to read the whole post which gives us a better chance of them reading the point they'd otherwise not make it too. Fantastic work. I was half expecting you to through in the possibility that alcohol was a more likely candidate to be the gateway drug.
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Thanks man!
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I thought about this too, the possibility of maybe adding some posts on spirituality and such, maybe going into the spirituality and mysticism forum to recruit people interested in writing, but I also realized, we are a very diverse group here on the shroomery. We are divided on racial, cultural, political lines. I'm not sure how much we have as common ground outside of an interest in these sorts of substances, their histories and potential. But also, if we start adding articles on conventionally 'hippie' topics (I am thinking especially of my idea of some spirituality articles) then that does perpetuate a certain image of drug users as... well... hippies. And a lot of good old fashioned christians have serious problems with new age religion / unconventional spirituality in general, and with hippies in particular.
I think it would be valid and interesting, though, to talk about how closely spirituality and psychedelics are tied together. It seems like such a huge aspect of the experience that we shouldn't over look.
Also, maybe this is going a bit too far, but I think it would be helpful and interesting to include one or two really well written trip reports in the magazine. It might be a little risky if we want it to reach a much wider audience, but I think it could have a lot to offer. We could ask people to submit them, or read some from the Trip Reports forum or Erowid and ask permission to use them. What do you think?
Well how about some sort of a different trip report.
Make it focus on the follow up and integration. There can be some discussion of the experience itself, but focus on taking the insights and using them to enrich your life. Let people see how psychedelics can push us to become better people. I also think that integration is a too-often ignored part of the psychedelic experience even in a place like this, so it would be helpful to remind us that part of the wonder of psych's is their potential to help us get past harmful thought patterns or negative behaviours.
Also, this way we will have trip reports that read differently from erowid or reports around the shroomery, they would be a slightly different style / focus.
I don't think we have to ignore psychedelics spiritual potential, but that can be addressed in traditional uses of the substance (like in articles about historical use) and in individual accounts of their 'relationship' with a drug, but I think we should stop short of going into how to meditate, or chakras, or any of that. I think you will lose a lot more people than you will gain and I think that spiritual experiences / paths like that are much more personal and individual.
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Make it focus on the follow up and integration. There can be some discussion of the experience itself, but focus on taking the insights and using them to enrich your life. Let people see how psychedelics can push us to become better people. I also think that integration is a too-often ignored part of the psychedelic experience even in a place like this, so it would be helpful to remind us that part of the wonder of psych's is their potential to help us get past harmful thought patterns or negative behaviours.
I think that's a great idea! Hopefully people will be interested in writing and submitting them.
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I don't think we have to ignore psychedelics spiritual potential, but that can be addressed in traditional uses of the substance (like in articles about historical use) and in individual accounts of their 'relationship' with a drug, but I think we should stop short of going into how to meditate, or chakras, or any of that. I think you will lose a lot more people than you will gain and I think that spiritual experiences / paths like that are much more personal and individual.
I agree with you, but with one exception. It ties with the above, but I often find that my trips always lead me to more meditation, that is how I integrate. We shouldn't talk about spirituality in depth, but I think the trip reports, or similar articles, could suggest meditation, prayer, or just a general interest in spirituality as a way to integrate. But I agree that we definitely shouldn't advocate for it strongly.
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Make it focus on the follow up and integration. There can be some discussion of the experience itself, but focus on taking the insights and using them to enrich your life. Let people see how psychedelics can push us to become better people. I also think that integration is a too-often ignored part of the psychedelic experience even in a place like this, so it would be helpful to remind us that part of the wonder of psych's is their potential to help us get past harmful thought patterns or negative behaviours.
I think that's a great idea! Hopefully people will be interested in writing and submitting them.
One thing I love about people who trip, they are always up to share a story! (Myself included)
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I don't think we have to ignore psychedelics spiritual potential, but that can be addressed in traditional uses of the substance (like in articles about historical use) and in individual accounts of their 'relationship' with a drug, but I think we should stop short of going into how to meditate, or chakras, or any of that. I think you will lose a lot more people than you will gain and I think that spiritual experiences / paths like that are much more personal and individual.
I agree with you, but with one exception. It ties with the above, but I often find that my trips always lead me to more meditation, that is how I integrate. We shouldn't talk about spirituality in depth, but I think the trip reports, or similar articles, could suggest meditation, prayer, or just a general interest in spirituality as a way to integrate. But I agree that we definitely shouldn't advocate for it strongly.
I guess I worded it poorly, I said:
"and in individual accounts of their 'relationship' with a drug"
I was saying that I think it is totally fine to have a person saying that this is the religious practice they use to integrate. I completely agree. I just think the proper stopping point is actively advocating a type/method of spirituality.
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I was saying that I think it is totally fine to have a person saying that this is the religious practice they use to integrate. I completely agree. I just think the proper stopping point is actively advocating a type/method of spirituality.
Definitely. That would be preachy, which is exactly what psychedelics encourage me not to do. I have my beliefs, other people have theirs, and I'm not here to persuade anyone. Glad we are on the same page.
I'm so excited about this E-Zine, I think its gonna be really cool!
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
#16563927 - 07/21/12 11:08 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I was saying that I think it is totally fine to have a person saying that this is the religious practice they use to integrate. I completely agree. I just think the proper stopping point is actively advocating a type/method of spirituality.
Definitely. That would be preachy, which is exactly what psychedelics encourage me not to do. I have my beliefs, other people have theirs, and I'm not here to persuade anyone. Glad we are on the same page.
I'm so excited about this E-Zine, I think its gonna be really cool!
Agreed. This is a reallllly shitty time for me this week, to do any extended kind of stuff, but starting friday afternoon I have a 3 day weekend with no responsibilities.
I was thinking a good first step would be to make up a template. So it will look basically like what the E-Zine will look like, but it will have descriptions of future articles and submission rules in place of where the articles would normally be. Does that make sense?
Also it would give us a place to start changing it from. It's kind of hard with so many different variables to make sure everyone is thinking the same thing. This way you'd have a base from which to change it.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
#16563964 - 07/21/12 11:17 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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We definitely need a template, it will make publishing future ones a breeze, pretty much just drag and drop. I'm pretty worthless with design stuff, so I don't think I'll be of much use for making the template. Is anyone here really good at that and willing to take the reigns? Or maybe a couple people could make a template and we could have a vote? Or one person could have many? Just spitballin here.
We also need to find a couple people to take of charge of the whole operation, and sooner rather than later. They would be the main editors and in charge of keeping people on schedule and finding content to put in the magazine. They would have the power to reject any articles that don't fit within the scope of the E-Zine, but hopefully they wouldn't have to use it.
Also, before we publish the first one, maybe we should as an admin if we can get it stickied? Or maybe get a request for articles stickied?
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#16563981 - 07/21/12 11:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh, I just thought of something. Sorry if it was brought up before. I think it would be cool to have something very similar to LearyFan's posts about "This day in psychedelics history" For us it could be a whole week or 10 days or something.
We could even ask him and see if he would be willing to write it for us.
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
#16564162 - 07/21/12 12:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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i actually think bold as loves idea of a trip report would be great. it would show a little bias, but it would be a trip report so it would be a personal account anyways. i just think it's good for people to get the idea of what kind of stuff happens before, during, after a trip. as long as the overall message is unbiased.
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sweet, like all of these ideas 
I think anybody who wants to do a a layout idea should try and throw something together so we can have a bunch of ideas to choose from, I'll work on one within the next couple days here and throw it up for peer review.
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I think anybody who wants to do a a layout idea should try and throw something together so we can have a bunch of ideas to choose from, I'll work on one within the next couple days here and throw it up for peer review. 
I will post one on friday. I am busier than a $0.25 whore on payday this week!
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
#16843526 - 09/13/12 09:19 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hey, I'm new to shroomery, joined to see if I could help you guys out with this.
I believe I have a considerable amount of information to contribute to the community, especially in a medium such as an e-zine.
Are there any roles currently that need to be filled, or are you even looking for more people still? Is there something that needs to be written or should I come up with the topic on my own and have someone review the final product?
I notice this has topic hasn't had a post in 52 days. Do you use another website or medium for communication, or has this project dispersed in the wind?
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: thatpyrokid]
#16843628 - 09/13/12 09:32 PM (11 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think this thread lost its steam. Mostly because some of us (I can only really speak for myself) are personally conflicted on alot of the issues surrounding psychedelics. Like whether they should be legal or if they are habit forming etc etc
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
#16953001 - 10/02/12 04:04 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe then we should take the approach of not discussing legality and rather presenting info on why the drug wars bad and unbiased info on the drugs themselves. Maybe discuss possible legal solutions but ultimately leave the choice up to readers to decide what they think should be done
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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
#17089157 - 10/23/12 10:00 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd be happy to help out with this. I have a fair bit of experience with drug law reform in New Zealand, if a perspective from the Antipodes was wanted. I also keep up with the latest research in psychology journals, which I could summarise into a discussion piece.
It appears that enthusiasm for this idea is running out, but it is a good idea. I'd suggest using InDesign to make the magazine, but I don't want to steal anyone's thunder.
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