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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #16561941 - 07/20/12 09:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Does anyone have any burning ideas for columns?




Not any good ones, really. I have always wanted to write about how opinions of drugs change over time, from when they were used for religious purposes until now. I could see it being something that a each new column moves it forward in time a bit, or changes to a new substance or something. It was just a rough idea.

I'll try and brainstorm a few good ones.




Up earlier in the thread sailing mentioned the possibility of a column that details what lead a certain drug to be scheduled, and I think that could definitely include how public opinion changed and for what reasons. I think that a longer perspective on society's view of drugs, being able to see the progression (or regression) over a hundred years will make it harder to unthinkingly support the current view.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: BoldAsLove]
    #16561951 - 07/20/12 09:06 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i second the bad press/blotter report. i was actually just about to suggest it myself :P any dangerous RC prints/pill presses definitely should be publicized. that will require a larger scale effort to get that information though. we need people to keep us posted on the stuff they're running into on the market.

any kind of obvious anniversary stuff in psychedelic history/culture. i also think it's important we include some articles on the use of these drugs in native cultures. things such as ayahuasca and peyote ceremonies. perhaps history and personal experiences if we can find anything. i think it's important that people realize these aren't new things to mankind. most people seem to think that drugs are spawned in underground labs that are aiming to hurt their children.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16561973 - 07/20/12 09:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Would Preparations/Recipes be too much?
ie Ayahuasca, cacti teas, covering the taste of certain edible drugs and/or mixing drugs into your favorite treats?

I feel it can walk too much into Drug Advocating rather than harm reduction but either way I would read it. Just also have to keep in mind not getting it targeted.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16562002 - 07/20/12 09:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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any kind of obvious anniversary stuff in psychedelic history/culture. i also think it's important we include some articles on the use of these drugs in native cultures.



Agreed. When people take psychedelic drugs on their own, if they choose to, there is always a context and a position in drug history in their mind. If this context is one of hearing about people having 'bad trips' and flipping out. If it is thinking of drugs as something bad that they shouldn't be doing, then this can lead them to have a very different experience than if they think in terms of thousands of years of human use of these substances. Giving people an alternate story and tradition of use than the dominant societal story, opens up more paths for positive experiences.

I definitely agree that we need something on native use. I mean just off the top of my head, I think about the siberian mushroom usage, the mystery of indian 'soma', the marijuana found in a mongolian grave in a finely crafted box. Showing people this is a natural part of society will help them get over some of the unneccessary taboo...


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16562013 - 07/20/12 09:16 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

yeah i think adding recipes might get it labeled a "drug cook book" rather than an informative piece article


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16562021 - 07/20/12 09:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Would Preparations/Recipes be too much?
ie Ayahuasca, cacti teas, covering the taste of certain edible drugs and/or mixing drugs into your favorite treats?

I feel it can walk too much into Drug Advocating rather than harm reduction but either way I would read it. Just also have to keep in mind not getting it targeted.




Yeah, getting targeted is a concern, and ruining the legal and semi-legal highs people have access to now. Things that are not being enforced now but with a bit of negative press could be... Those I feel we need to steer clear of. Especially if part of the intention hear is to use it to bring in people who are not involved in the subculture.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16562025 - 07/20/12 09:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

perhaps we should also include certain key facts into the history and dangers/benefits of legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco too. just so people start viewing them as part of the same spectrum rather than Alcohol vs Drugs.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16562030 - 07/20/12 09:18 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Right on, thought it might be just over the edge.


Drug MYTHBUSTERS?
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Bananadine and Jenkem getting their spotlights
LSDs Life Long Trip
Nutmeg and Catnip
"7 hits makes you legally insane"
Marijuana is the gateway drug
Which Kills more? Alcohol or Marijuan


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16562039 - 07/20/12 09:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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perhaps we should also include certain key facts into the history and dangers/benefits of legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco too. just so people start viewing them as part of the same spectrum rather than Alcohol vs Drugs.




Definitely agreed. Maybe do alcohol's history alongside opium's. When the women's league opposed prohibition, many of them were enjoying 'sleeping tonics' of opiates each night. Alcohol and tobacco are very much part of drug prohibition's history.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16562045 - 07/20/12 09:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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perhaps we should also include certain key facts into the history and dangers/benefits of legal drugs like alcohol and tobacco too. just so people start viewing them as part of the same spectrum rather than Alcohol vs Drugs.





THIS.
Crazy how things are categorized.

ie
PHARMS- IF A DOC PRESCRIBES IT ITS OK ANY ABUSER IS AT FAULT OF THEIR OWN
ALCOHOL- FINE IF UNDER 21 PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES
CIGARETTES- FINE IF 18 THEYLL QUIT ONE DAY, JUST DONT BLOW IN MY FACE
"DRUGS" ANYTHING IVE NEVER TRIED IS MADE BY THE DEVIL.

Breaking these barriers is really a huge goal imho
you dont have to idolize drugs but atleast make them just as equal :smile:


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16562060 - 07/20/12 09:23 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Drug MYTHBUSTERS?
:smile:
Bananadine and Jenkem getting their spotlights
LSDs Life Long Trip
Nutmeg and Catnip
"7 hits makes you legally insane"
Marijuana is the gateway drug
Which Kills more? Alcohol or Marijuan




Nutmeg actually will get you high, it just is really really stupid to do it.


How about also an article:

"Thank drugs for __________." And then go into some contribution drugs made to an invention (the man who invented PCR credits LSD to some extent, as an example), or to artwork, or music, etc.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16562071 - 07/20/12 09:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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you dont have to idolize drugs but atleast make them just as equal :smile:




Exactly. Make the decision intelligently on how to regulate, and not based on cultural preferences for one drug or class of drugs over another.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16562081 - 07/20/12 09:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

yeah some articles on the great minds that were influenced by drugs would be fantastic. there's a lot of REALLY influential people who admit to using hallucinogens.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16562086 - 07/20/12 09:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

STEVE JOBS - LSD

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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16562103 - 07/20/12 09:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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STEVE JOBS - LSD

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steve wozniak, bill gates, sir richard branson, some rich mofo who bailed out mongolia. the list goes on.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16562112 - 07/20/12 09:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

SO far we have a good few ideas on possible articles. How do we want to set this up in terms of editing, how we choose which articles get published, how decisions get made? Any thoughts on that guys?


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16562117 - 07/20/12 09:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

hmmmm, not sure. i guess we need some kind of board of directors to approve/manage all this :cool:


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #16562118 - 07/20/12 09:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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STEVE JOBS - LSD

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steve wozniak, bill gates, sir richard branson, some rich mofo who bailed out mongolia. the list goes on.




Freud, thomas jefferson


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16562134 - 07/20/12 09:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I personally am no good at planning, preparing, setting up, meeting dead lines. So as far as any of that I would have to sit out lol


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16562136 - 07/20/12 09:38 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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JacksonMetaller said:
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STEVE JOBS - LSD

:smile:




steve wozniak, bill gates, sir richard branson, some rich mofo who bailed out mongolia. the list goes on.




Freud, thomas jefferson




francis crick, though that story is debatable. i forget the guys name but some guy got a noble peace prize for some major contribution to genetics that he stated was influenced by psychedelic usage.


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