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Starting a Shroomy E-Zine
    #16559301 - 07/20/12 10:13 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

There has been some discussion about how we can organize as a community and a group of activists. The Shroomery offers a wonderful trove of information, but it has to be sifted through, distilled and processed before it can be relied on. There is much that is great here, but also a lot to sort through as well.

The E-zine would focus on Drug Legalization in the broadest possible sense. Decreasing harmful usage, new and effective methods of advocacy, public education, helpful research into drug benefits.

This leaves a lot to be determined, however:

How often?
-JacksonMetaller suggested once a month, which sounds reasonable. It won't be too large a commitment, but it also won't be an enormous amount of time between issues.

Will it have its own website with archived past issues? What else might the website offer?
-Sailing pointed out this possibility. This has the benefit of allowing diversification, we can offer many different things for people coming to read. But it means we need to fund the domain, we have to worry about donations, we need someone to do the technical end.

My suggestion is what if we discussed the possibility of stickying a shroomery post with each month's edition of the e-zine so they all could be found on here, and people could be linked to the e-zine from other websites, but we would still mail out the e-zine. It also could be a non-stickied thread, but that has obvious disadvantages.

Who will put the e-zine together?
Who has graphic design skills?
Who will post articles?
How will we keep people on deadlines for the articles so the e-zine comes out on time?
How do we decide what topics to include or not to include?


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16559316 - 07/20/12 10:16 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

More questions:

What do we call it?

Who is the audience? Is this just for people in the movement to discuss tactics, and to sharpen our sense of the movement, or is it intended to be read by the drug-naive?

What kind of responsibility do we have to not encourage certain kinds of drug use, and to not advertise lesser known drug practices (RC's, legal highs) that do not need and will not benefit from more publicity.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy] * 1
    #16559345 - 07/20/12 10:21 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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PoisonCrazy said:
More questions:

What do we call it?

Who is the audience? Is this just for people in the movement to discuss tactics, and to sharpen our sense of the movement, or is it intended to be read by the drug-naive?

What kind of responsibility do we have to not encourage certain kinds of drug use, and to not advertise lesser known drug practices (RC's, legal highs) that do not need and will not benefit from more publicity.




I think we should direct it toward all audiences. both people in the movement, and the drug naive. have articles that dig up interesting facts, and articles talking about the events that lead to various drugs being scheduled, and articles talking about what individuals can do to help out.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
    #16559352 - 07/20/12 10:23 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

What about every 3 weeks? extra 5 issues right?


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16559360 - 07/20/12 10:25 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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What about every 3 weeks? extra 5 issues right?




I don't think that's too often. I think every 10-days to 2 weeks would be too short, but every 3-4 weeks isn't unreasonable to me.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
    #16559375 - 07/20/12 10:29 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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sailing said:
Quote:

PoisonCrazy said:
More questions:

What do we call it?

Who is the audience? Is this just for people in the movement to discuss tactics, and to sharpen our sense of the movement, or is it intended to be read by the drug-naive?

What kind of responsibility do we have to not encourage certain kinds of drug use, and to not advertise lesser known drug practices (RC's, legal highs) that do not need and will not benefit from more publicity.




I think we should direct it toward all audiences. both people in the movement, and the drug naive. have articles that dig up interesting facts, and articles talking about the events that lead to various drugs being scheduled, and articles talking about what individuals can do to help out.





The concern if it is directed towards people inside or outside of the movement, is that it censors certain kinds of candid discussion, and it encourages a different tone be taken, or else giving an unflattering impression to people who don't know the issues very well.

I think the idea about articles detailing the events leading to a substance being scheduled would be an amazing idea. There are many many interesting case-studies in drugs and I would be eager to read an article like that! Even though I know many of the stories!:themoreyouknow:


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16559387 - 07/20/12 10:31 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe not brand it Shroomery but still produce from Shroomery..
as to not draw attention here to all the info and discussion that goes on but still to be a product of the sites mass info..


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16559400 - 07/20/12 10:32 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You should name it "Only users lose drugs"


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16559452 - 07/20/12 10:44 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Maybe not brand it Shroomery but still produce from Shroomery..
as to not draw attention here to all the info and discussion that goes on but still to be a product of the sites mass info..



That sounds very right to me. Then we aren't drawing too much attention here but we still share the information with shroomerites.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: King Klick]
    #16559470 - 07/20/12 10:47 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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You should name it "Only users lose drugs"




I was thinking (when I was thinking of it as just something for the community) of making the name a play on NORML, calling it:

W  elcoming
E  xperiences
I  n
R  eality
D  istortion

A little light-hearted, but I think generally positive in tone. Nowadays you have a lot more people self-identifying as weird. And it kind of takes ownership of the slight unusualness of these substances.


Thoughts?


Edited by PoisonCrazy (07/20/12 10:48 AM)


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16559537 - 07/20/12 11:01 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Drugs
Freedom
Reality
News
Talk



Different. Ie different than your average newsletter. This is about current events, drugs, laws, not being oblivious, knowing what's going on around the world and discussing it.

Just a play off your play off NRML
I figure if you're tossing up ideas why not make there options? Lol


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16559713 - 07/20/12 11:54 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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PeterPanda209 said:
Drugs
Freedom
Reality
News
Talk



Different. Ie different than your average newsletter. This is about current events, drugs, laws, not being oblivious, knowing what's going on around the world and discussing it.

Just a play off your play off NRML
I figure if you're tossing up ideas why not make there options? Lol




Haha. I like that too. I also think playing off NRML (though not necessarily explicitly in the e-zine) will help people mentally position us.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16559872 - 07/20/12 12:41 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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PoisonCrazy said:


The concern if it is directed towards people inside or outside of the movement, is that it censors certain kinds of candid discussion, and it encourages a different tone be taken, or else giving an unflattering impression to people who don't know the issues very well.

I think the idea about articles detailing the events leading to a substance being scheduled would be an amazing idea. There are many many interesting case-studies in drugs and I would be eager to read an article like that! Even though I know many of the stories!:themoreyouknow:



I dissagree with this. One of the bigger issues with the drug war is the misinformation being fed to the american populace. I think that if we include information, facts and myths, lies and truths, it can help outsiders better understand what it is that we do, it also gives us credibility in that we know what the fuck we're talking about as opposed to, 'those druggies, all they do is stare at the ceiling all day, they dont know anything'


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
    #16561064 - 07/20/12 04:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Quote:

PoisonCrazy said:


The concern if it is directed towards people inside or outside of the movement, is that it censors certain kinds of candid discussion, and it encourages a different tone be taken, or else giving an unflattering impression to people who don't know the issues very well.

I think the idea about articles detailing the events leading to a substance being scheduled would be an amazing idea. There are many many interesting case-studies in drugs and I would be eager to read an article like that! Even though I know many of the stories!:themoreyouknow:



I dissagree with this. One of the bigger issues with the drug war is the misinformation being fed to the american populace. I think that if we include information, facts and myths, lies and truths, it can help outsiders better understand what it is that we do, it also gives us credibility in that we know what the fuck we're talking about as opposed to, 'those druggies, all they do is stare at the ceiling all day, they dont know anything'





I don't think I was saying we can't include outside people, I was just saying if we do, it will have to be a different kind of discussion. Just like when people with one political opinion chat with people from the same party, they have one kind of talk, and when they chat with people from a different party the conversation changes.


What does everyone think? Should this be something intended to be spread to the masses as well or something for the community alone?


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16561141 - 07/20/12 04:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I think if we take an informative side of things with opinion pieces as wells as informative pieces, it would be fine. theres no need to focus more on one or the other, we can have both. there will be separate articles in each issue, they dont all have to be about the same thing :shrug:


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: sailing]
    #16561429 - 07/20/12 05:44 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I think if we take an informative side of things with opinion pieces as wells as informative pieces, it would be fine. theres no need to focus more on one or the other, we can have both. there will be separate articles in each issue, they dont all have to be about the same thing :shrug:




I wasn't necessarily saying that articles couldn't appeal to both, just more that certain kinds of articles would be inappropriate if you appealed to both.

I was also thinking, we could have some columns where anyone could submit something within certain guidelines on a certain topic, and other columns that would be the same author same theme each publication.

The problem you'll probably run into with an online effort is people promising to do something and then not following through. One way to fix this would be to have each person who wants to do a specific column submit two articles for the first edition, and then sometime in the first 3-6 months in addition to their monthly article, they would need to submit two articles one month, so that you would wind up with a buffer of two months in case they couldn't get one done sometime (we all have busy lives) or if they decided they didn't want to continue.

When I say month, you can replace that with 'every 3 weeks' if we decide on the 3 month cycle.

Does anyone have any burning ideas for columns?


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16561796 - 07/20/12 08:38 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Current Drug laws by state/country- a simple table format with drug names down one side and country/state codes across the top a letter (representing the legality) where the drug and location meet. Ie the letter A: (allowed) 100% legal for possession and human consumption the letter R: (restricted) against the law to consume or possession. You can have a legend on the side which lets you know what each letter represents.

Every issue has a drug safety tip of the month.
Ex. Testing you ecstasy pill to insure legitimacy.
Inform where you can buy a test, how to properly use the test and identify chemicals inside your pill as well as listing all different compounds commonly found in ecstasy pills.
Every issue it can be a new drug or safety tip.
(Of course not recomendding drug use but rather making sure those who will do so anyways will do it safely and keep our scene safe)

A warning of bad substances going around ie a bad stamped E pill or a bad stamp of Heroin(though I don't touch that shit I can't be a hypocritical them junkies deserve safety too. This can go for blotter. As well.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16561827 - 07/20/12 08:45 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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PeterPanda209 said:
Current Drug laws by state/country- a simple table format with drug names down one side and country/state codes across the top a letter (representing the legality) where the drug and location meet. Ie the letter A: (allowed) 100% legal for possession and human consumption the letter R: (restricted) against the law to consume or possession. You can have a legend on the side which lets you know what each letter represents.

Every issue has a drug safety tip of the month.
Ex. Testing you ecstasy pill to insure legitimacy.
Inform where you can buy a test, how to properly use the test and identify chemicals inside your pill as well as listing all different compounds commonly found in ecstasy pills.
Every issue it can be a new drug or safety tip.
(Of course not recomendding drug use but rather making sure those who will do so anyways will do it safely and keep our scene safe)

A warning of bad substances going around ie a bad stamped E pill or a bad stamp of Heroin(though I don't touch that shit I can't be a hypocritical them junkies deserve safety too. This can go for blotter. As well.





Both these are great tips. I had been thinking about drug safety tips but had not considered warnings about bad substances, that could really help people. Also, maybe something on identifying counterfeit substances.



Building a table of drug penalties by state is difficult for a number of reasons because each state divides things up differently and many things are federally scheduled anyway which states often incorporate into their laws so that if it is illegal under federal law it is illegal under state law.


We could have a drug reform book review each month too. It would push us to learn more this way and to give people an avenue for finding information that offers a different view than the conventional DARE 'wisdom'.


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PoisonCrazy]
    #16561849 - 07/20/12 08:49 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

The Drug Users Book Club?

:smile: lol


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Re: Starting a Shroomy E-Zine [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16561856 - 07/20/12 08:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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The problem you'll probably run into with an online effort is people promising to do something and then not following through. One way to fix this would be to have each person who wants to do a specific column submit two articles for the first edition, and then sometime in the first 3-6 months in addition to their monthly article, they would need to submit two articles one month, so that you would wind up with a buffer of two months in case they couldn't get one done sometime (we all have busy lives) or if they decided they didn't want to continue.




I think that is a good idea. Hopefully there will also be other articles from other people just in case.

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Every issue has a drug safety tip of the month.




Definitely :thumbup:

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Does anyone have any burning ideas for columns?




Not any good ones, really. I have always wanted to write about how opinions of drugs change over time, from when they were used for religious purposes until now. I could see it being something that a each new column moves it forward in time a bit, or changes to a new substance or something. It was just a rough idea.

I'll try and brainstorm a few good ones.


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