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    #16526013 - 07/13/12 02:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
    #16526164 - 07/13/12 03:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I'm not even going to go there...

I am going to wait for GoOnThen (GOT) to go first.





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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: Nativenglish]
    #16526240 - 07/13/12 03:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

there is a pilosocereus sp. in the mix. that fisrt one looks peruvianoid.
and a t. grandifloris i believe.

i saw the same lot at lowes and thought how cool of them to have baby peruvians in the mix.:grin:


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16526327 - 07/13/12 03:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Which one is which? If the top left of the bottom picture is cactus 1, top right is cactus 2 and so on.

I bet they're selling these same ones all over the country.


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16526342 - 07/13/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Top two are Pilocereus sp., possibly azureus.
Bottom left looks similar, wouldn't say T. grandiflorus due to the wooly areoles.


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: turtle_hermit]
    #16526637 - 07/13/12 04:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Cant peruvian Torch also have this amount of needles?
Im no expert but it looks like a PT.


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: Mateo]
    #16526730 - 07/13/12 05:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Top Two
Pilocereus sp.

Bottom Left
Pilosocereus gounellei variation

Bottomr Right
Gonna throw this out there and say T.cuzcoensis possibly Peruvian/Cuzonoid.


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    #16526833 - 07/13/12 05:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
    #16526987 - 07/13/12 06:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Could be T.santaensis I'm not a pro to completely threw it out but from the few pics I've been seeing of a T.santaensis; they all have Red spines in new growth.



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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: modern.shaman] * 1
    #16527617 - 07/13/12 08:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i'm gonna say it.

the first pic looks like a peruvian torch baby i once had. well exactly like a torch.

grow it to full capacity and we will know.

:goodluck: with thos.e


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: ferrel_human]
    #16527849 - 07/13/12 09:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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...looks like a peruvian torch baby i once had.





Do you have any pics of that Ferrel?


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: Nativenglish]
    #16528214 - 07/13/12 10:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the IDs everyone. I can start looking through
the pilosocereus genus and maybe find the species now.

Good looking on the santaensis's red spins Shaman.

Does anyone know if T.cuzcoensis is a variety or a species and
What distinguishes it from T.peruvianus?


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
    #16529338 - 07/14/12 07:41 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

According to wiki which you may or may not like, it's listed as a variety of T.peruvianus.

There is a discussion on the topic there and a few good links you may want to check out on T.cuzcoensis and T.peruvianus
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16427442

It may be a T.peruvianus as ferrel ID'd it's just that when I see bleach white long spines at the base I always shy towards cuzonoid. But your color does match a T.peruvianus

Just grow it out it may be easier to more closely ID as it's older and also looks nice.

Here is a 'true' peruvian, your spines don't match but there are lots of variations to the spines but your color holds true. So there's hope :smile:


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: modern.shaman]
    #16531690 - 07/14/12 07:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

The bleaching might just be an environmental thing for mine, I noticed the
supposed P.gounellei has the same bleaching toward the base and so does
the top left one. Although that picture doesn't show it too well.


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
    #16547129 - 07/17/12 10:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I just got these from a pharmacy :lol:

They look a lot more like a Ptorch,
It looks like there's around 7-10 spines per areola.



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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
    #16547147 - 07/17/12 10:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Straw flowers :facepalm:


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
    #16547199 - 07/17/12 10:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

they look like pilosocereus to me , and one of them is split down the middle :eek:


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: atomicshaman]
    #16548352 - 07/18/12 07:53 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I believe the top right in the picture of four is Pilosocereus Azureus. I have one and it looks pretty dead on to me...


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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: trophycase]
    #16549607 - 07/18/12 01:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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hookahhead said:
Straw flowers :facepalm:



I know :lol:

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atomicshaman said:
they look like pilosocereus to me , and one of them is split down the middle :eek:



That's from overwatering right? They look bulged to me. What about that points to pilosocereus?
I don't know what I was thinking now that I look at the pictues again. They look a lot less like
a Ptorch than the first one

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I believe the top right in the picture of four is Pilosocereus Azureus. I have one and it looks pretty dead on to me...



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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
    #16549658 - 07/18/12 01:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i fucking hate straw flowers :onfire:


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