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IndigoSky
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#16526013 - 07/13/12 02:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by IndigoSky (08/03/12 06:59 PM)
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Nativenglish
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
#16526164 - 07/13/12 03:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm not even going to go there...
I am going to wait for GoOnThen (GOT) to go first.
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: Nativenglish]
#16526240 - 07/13/12 03:24 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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there is a pilosocereus sp. in the mix. that fisrt one looks peruvianoid. and a t. grandifloris i believe.
i saw the same lot at lowes and thought how cool of them to have baby peruvians in the mix.
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IndigoSky
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: ferrel_human]
#16526327 - 07/13/12 03:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Which one is which? If the top left of the bottom picture is cactus 1, top right is cactus 2 and so on.
I bet they're selling these same ones all over the country.
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: ferrel_human]
#16526342 - 07/13/12 03:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Top two are Pilocereus sp., possibly azureus. Bottom left looks similar, wouldn't say T. grandiflorus due to the wooly areoles.
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: turtle_hermit]
#16526637 - 07/13/12 04:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cant peruvian Torch also have this amount of needles? Im no expert but it looks like a PT.
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modern.shaman
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: Mateo]
#16526730 - 07/13/12 05:11 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Top Two Pilocereus sp.
Bottom Left Pilosocereus gounellei variation
Bottomr Right Gonna throw this out there and say T.cuzcoensis possibly Peruvian/Cuzonoid.
Edited by modern.shaman (07/13/12 05:15 PM)
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#16526833 - 07/13/12 05:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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modern.shaman
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
#16526987 - 07/13/12 06:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Could be T.santaensis I'm not a pro to completely threw it out but from the few pics I've been seeing of a T.santaensis; they all have Red spines in new growth.
Edited by modern.shaman (07/13/12 06:05 PM)
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: modern.shaman] 1
#16527617 - 07/13/12 08:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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i'm gonna say it.
the first pic looks like a peruvian torch baby i once had. well exactly like a torch.
grow it to full capacity and we will know.
with thos.e
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: ferrel_human]
#16527849 - 07/13/12 09:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said:
...looks like a peruvian torch baby i once had.
Do you have any pics of that Ferrel?
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IndigoSky
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: Nativenglish]
#16528214 - 07/13/12 10:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for the IDs everyone. I can start looking through the pilosocereus genus and maybe find the species now.
Good looking on the santaensis's red spins Shaman.
Does anyone know if T.cuzcoensis is a variety or a species and What distinguishes it from T.peruvianus?
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
#16529338 - 07/14/12 07:41 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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According to wiki which you may or may not like, it's listed as a variety of T.peruvianus.
There is a discussion on the topic there and a few good links you may want to check out on T.cuzcoensis and T.peruvianus http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16427442
It may be a T.peruvianus as ferrel ID'd it's just that when I see bleach white long spines at the base I always shy towards cuzonoid. But your color does match a T.peruvianus
Just grow it out it may be easier to more closely ID as it's older and also looks nice.
Here is a 'true' peruvian, your spines don't match but there are lots of variations to the spines but your color holds true. So there's hope 
Edited by modern.shaman (07/14/12 07:46 AM)
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IndigoSky
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: modern.shaman]
#16531690 - 07/14/12 07:10 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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The bleaching might just be an environmental thing for mine, I noticed the supposed P.gounellei has the same bleaching toward the base and so does the top left one. Although that picture doesn't show it too well.
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
#16547129 - 07/17/12 10:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just got these from a pharmacy 
They look a lot more like a Ptorch, It looks like there's around 7-10 spines per areola.
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
#16547147 - 07/17/12 10:32 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
#16547199 - 07/17/12 10:43 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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they look like pilosocereus to me , and one of them is split down the middle
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: atomicshaman]
#16548352 - 07/18/12 07:53 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I believe the top right in the picture of four is Pilosocereus Azureus. I have one and it looks pretty dead on to me...
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: trophycase]
#16549607 - 07/18/12 01:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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hookahhead said: Straw flowers 
I know 
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atomicshaman said: they look like pilosocereus to me , and one of them is split down the middle 
That's from overwatering right? They look bulged to me. What about that points to pilosocereus? I don't know what I was thinking now that I look at the pictues again. They look a lot less like a Ptorch than the first one
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trophycase said: I believe the top right in the picture of four is Pilosocereus Azureus. I have one and it looks pretty dead on to me...
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Re: T. peruvianus or T.santaensis? (cacti ID help) [Re: IndigoSky]
#16549658 - 07/18/12 01:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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i fucking hate straw flowers
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