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 cosmofish
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 best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? 
#16548398 - 07/18/12 08:08 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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i've got a couple of half-pint wood supplemented pf tek jars that are fully colonized but now i'm not sure what to do with them. i have a few different kinds of wood chips (maple, apple, hickory), some sawdust, mulch, peat moss, some coco coir, vermiculite, coffee grounds, and a few other things but no pressure cooker unfortunately. i couldn't find any other posts about starting these mushrooms from pf jars. would crumbling them into a mix of wood chips/sawdust work ok? and would soaking the mix in recently boiled water be sufficient sterilization/pasteurization?
thanks, i've never really grown mushrooms before so all this is new to me
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 BlackPeace
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: cosmofish]
#16548431 - 07/18/12 08:19 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you could have ok/good result from regular BRF cakes with a bit of hardwood sawdust. Replace all of the verm or half of it. It should do the trick. I don't have experience yet on cakes.
Edited by BlackPeace (07/18/12 10:33 AM)
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: BlackPeace]
#16548448 - 07/18/12 08:29 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Edit:
Off topic, sorry
Edited by BlackPeace (07/18/12 10:32 AM)
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: BlackPeace]
#16548485 - 07/18/12 08:39 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also a little trick, when you search on the shroomery for Agrocybe aegerita, use
black poplar
or
pioppino
or
agrocybe aegerita
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: cosmofish]
#16548828 - 07/18/12 10:17 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Without a pressure cooker, don't use any bran in your substrate mix. I'd suggest loading your sawdust and a bit of chicken manure(about two tablespoons to a quart jar of sawdust) and about the same amount or less gypsum, and then pasteurize in quart jars as shown in the casing layer video. Your brf cakes can be broken up and mixed with the pasteurized sawdust. Make your casing layer as shown in that video as well. Apply the casing layer after full colonization of the substrate.
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BlackPeace
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16548930 - 07/18/12 10:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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This looks like a very good idea,
Thanks for sharing
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cosmofish
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: BlackPeace]
#16549287 - 07/18/12 11:45 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok great, seems straight-forward enough. just curious why chicken manure in this case instead of cow/horse? i haven't seen it being used very often, or at least not as often as the others. thanks for the responses
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: cosmofish]
#16549457 - 07/18/12 12:50 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think he suggest it for it's nutritionnal content as a supplement to hardwood sawdust. Opposed to use cow-horse manure in that case. I could be wrong though.
Good luck and please, make a grow log 
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: BlackPeace]
#16550634 - 07/18/12 05:05 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Small amounts of composted chicken manure make an excellent wood lover substrate supplement. I've used it with Pioppino, Oyster, Shiitake, Maitake and a few others.
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cosmofish
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16551166 - 07/18/12 07:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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alright i'll make sure to pick some of that up soon then. thanks again, and yeah i might put up a grow log sometime if the colonization goes according to plan
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: cosmofish]
#18277803 - 05/17/13 08:24 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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posting to have in my threads, never grew before, but thinking to start with this
anyone think i shouldnt start with aegerita
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: hidenseek1]
#18279356 - 05/17/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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What have you grown before? i don't think Agrocybe Aegerita is a bad first choice.
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Queen of Kings
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: BlackPeace]
#18287865 - 05/19/13 01:29 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have had good luck with it on sawdust (fir) and bran.
I have problems getting an even pinset; it's something I'm working on.
This is a ridiculously good-tasting mushroom. Plus, you can eat the stem. However, I would not say it's the easiest for your first gourmet. Oysters are easier.
I have some a. aegerita pictures in my gallery, check them out.
Good luck!
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: Queen of Kings]
#18289260 - 05/19/13 07:31 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Queen of Kings said:
I have some a. aegerita pictures in my gallery, check them out.
Good luck!
Awesome in vitro pinning on the plates!
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Queen of Kings
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: OICU812]
#18289610 - 05/19/13 08:49 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Awesome in vitro pinning on the plates!
Thanks!! That one got a little crazy! They get that way on BRF agar, which I sometimes take a notion to use instead of actual agar. Sometimes with these results!
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Re: best substrate for agrocybe aegerita? [Re: Queen of Kings]
#18289624 - 05/19/13 08:52 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Interesting....still pins around the perimeter.
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