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marinol takes 70mg+
    #16538033 - 07/16/12 04:59 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

To Get high off it...it cost nearly a grand for 60 x 5mg marinol





Worth it?


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Rexter]
    #16538103 - 07/16/12 05:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Worth it? NO! 60x5mg THC?  Theres that much in a gram of good hash. Even if you are on prescription its best to just make weed butter and dose that properly. MUCH cheaper.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Asante]
    #16538239 - 07/16/12 07:16 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Marinol is such a fucking Scam.  Sorry if I interject my biases.

How can Big Brother put Marijuana into Schedule I, then turn around and let Big Pharma make a Synthetic version and get it a different Schedule?

I can't believe that Rexter got this prescribed to him!  Truthfully if I were the doc I would have called it like I seen it, Shenanigans.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Its Pat]
    #16538299 - 07/16/12 07:39 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Marinol is such a fucking Scam.  Sorry if I interject my biases.





Thats not bias. Paying almost a grand for a gram's worth of hash is a fucking ripoff.  Thats like getting a $25 aspirin in the hospital.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Asante]
    #16538309 - 07/16/12 07:44 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

A hospital aspirin has huge overhead, every hospital pill gets a lot of attention and time from pharmacists and others.
It probably costs at least that much to cover the expenses associated with something like an aspirin.
(At the very least, you involve a doctor, a nurse, a pharmacist, a pharmacy tech. Could be several more people in the transaction too.)

I think the Marinol price is a retail price targeted to rip off insurance companies. BICBW.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Asante]
    #16538314 - 07/16/12 07:46 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

But this is like government hash

You know g-13 type shit :ancientaliens:


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Doc_T]
    #16538316 - 07/16/12 07:47 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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(At the very least, you involve a doctor, a nurse, a pharmacist, a pharmacy tech. Could be several more people in the transaction too.)





You forget that these people are professionals already getting paid, working their normal shift. Imagine buying a meal and on top of that getting a bill for each potato.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Doc_T]
    #16538343 - 07/16/12 08:02 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
I think the Marinol price is a retail price targeted to rip off insurance companies. BICBW.





everyone pays the price that has fills prescription, those with no insurance
are paying as much as the insurance companies. as has been mentioned several
times in the pub, it's about the usage of the drug, the more people using it
the lower the cost, aids and cancer meds costing several thousand have a
lower price than pain meds which are much more heavily prescribed

based on actual dosage, marinol isnt that much more expensive than hash, a
few bucks per day, trying to use marinol recreationally is a different critter


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Its Pat]
    #16538348 - 07/16/12 08:03 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Its Pat said:

How can Big Brother put Marijuana into Schedule I, then turn around and let Big Pharma make a Synthetic version and get it a different Schedule?
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A couple reasons:  They have the manufacturing down nearly perfectly.  That is, each and every pill is nearly identical in terms of composition.

It's been thoroughly investigated in PK studies, so the cahracteristics of its metabolism are well known in a variety of populations.  This is also true in terms of toxicity studies (they have the appropriate documentation of these effects).

They've done the appropriate studies to establish "medical use" which consists of thousands of patientes in properly controlled, blinded, and designed studies.  There are probably loads of other reasons too.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Asante]
    #16538353 - 07/16/12 08:05 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

holy shit, and i thought suboxone was expensive!!! I have so much extra money now that i am not on that bullshit.

but seriously rexter, how can you even consider continuing to pay that much? I have seen you over in ODD, i know you are smoking weed all the time, so what is the problem?
also, judging by recent posts, it seem the marinol are not even reacting very well with you.
drop that shit, dude.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Aural Kaleidoscope]
    #16538379 - 07/16/12 08:17 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Weeds not enough sometimes also today I have a cold and didn't want to smoke in my condition h
Ad to call.into work :frown:


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"Ha! Marshall you're so funny man You should be a comedian, god damn!" Unfortunately I am I just hide behind the tears of a clown"

Meteloides said:
Stick to naturally occurring substances! Like Shrooms! And DMT! And Datura! And Amanita Phalloides! And Nutmeg! And Hemlock!
That'll expand the shit out of your DNA.
:ancientaliens:


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Doc_T]
    #16538384 - 07/16/12 08:19 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

Doc_T said:
A hospital aspirin has huge overhead, every hospital pill gets a lot of attention and time from pharmacists and others.
It probably costs at least that much to cover the expenses associated with something like an aspirin.
(At the very least, you involve a doctor, a nurse, a pharmacist, a pharmacy tech. Could be several more people in the transaction too.)

I think the Marinol price is a retail price targeted to rip off insurance companies. BICBW.




ALL medical services and medications are way overpriced.

It's just the nature of the beast when Doctors, Hospital, Pharmacies et al over-charge to get a greater percentage of payment from the insurance companies.  That's how it all started.  Insurance companies will only pay a fraction of what the provider(s) are asking.

Thus after a period of time the health providers will increase their pricing in hopes of getting paid more.

This fact really screws with people who pay out of pocket since the provider is pushing the price of the bill upwards.  Sure you may get 10% knocked off the bill but that is still nowhere near to what the insurance companies are getting.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Its Pat]
    #16538401 - 07/16/12 08:26 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

actually doctards and hospitals will reduce the prices around 20-30% for
people paying cash, most of them state as much up front, some discount even
more for individuals. the reason for the dicounts is they already know the
insurance companies will demand a lower rate and then they'll frequently
delay payment and generally be a pain in the ass


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For Illinois residents, a 68 percent discount will automatically be given to all self-pay patients unless a Global Case Rate is applicable. Out-of-state residents automatically receive a 50 percent discount, which is equivalent to Rush's average managed care discount.




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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16538415 - 07/16/12 08:32 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
actually doctards and hospitals will reduce the prices around 20-30% for
people paying cash, most of them state as much up front, some discount even
more for individuals. the reason for the dicounts is they already know the
insurance companies will demand a lower rate and then they'll frequently
delay payment and generally be a pain in the ass


http://www.rush.edu/rumc/page-1239655946883.html
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Self-Pay Discount
For Illinois residents, a 68 percent discount will automatically be given to all self-pay patients unless a Global Case Rate is applicable. Out-of-state residents automatically receive a 50 percent discount, which is equivalent to Rush's average managed care discount.







Exactly, and don't forget about DOUBLE BILLING!  That's when a provider submits a bill twice in hopes they will get paid twice.

It's a common practice, sometimes, and they usually always eventually get found out.  However they don't have to pay any penalties.

Well why do the double bill if they are going to pay it back?

Simple, Compounding Interest!

20%-30% is a great fucken reduction in price.  I don't think I ever got something lower than 10% truthfully!


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Its Pat]
    #16538420 - 07/16/12 08:34 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I doubt many people double bill. Some do. But the penalties are fierce.
And I can say from experience that it's hard enough getting medical paperwork right the first time, let alone doing it twice.

Most doctors like being rich and powerful and having status, and relatively few will risk that.
the ones that do make the news precisely because it's unusual. Doctors tend to be conservative in every sense of the word.


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Re: marinol takes 70mg+ [Re: Its Pat]
    #16538451 - 07/16/12 08:47 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Its Pat said:
Exactly, and don't forget about DOUBLE BILLING!  That's when a provider submits a bill twice in hopes they will get paid twice.
Well why do the double bill if they are going to pay it back?




double billing is frequently a book keeping error, how's an insurance
company not going to know that they're paying out twice on the same
procedure on the same account.



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20%-30% is a great fucken reduction in price.  I don't think I ever got something lower than 10% truthfully!




always talk with the financial department, most teaching hospitals offer
charity care/debt forgiveness, many private hospitals do as well, the very
least is a reduction in the bill that often exceeds the 20% they give just
because you're paying.

about 3 years ago my son broke his collar bone, my insurance had expired a
few months before because I was unemployed, to date I've still not seen a
bill and I did nothing other tell them I was unemployed when we were doing
all the paper work. I called and asked about the bill after a couple of
months and they told me it's been handled


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