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Environmentalism=Terrorism
    #1653663 - 06/22/03 04:08 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

Have you ever signed a petition in support of an environmental or animal-rights issue? Do you belong to the Sierra Club, the Natural Resources Defense Council, or Greenpeace? Have you publicly protested some environmental or animal rights outrage? If legislation crafted and promoted by the ultra-conservative American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) becomes law, these fundamental rights of American citizenship could become illegal.

Exploiting the current political climate against terrorism, ALEC has teamed up with the U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance, a pro-hunting group, to create a model "Animal and Ecological Terrorism Act." The legislation is part of an intense backlash against increasingly effective and vocal citizen campaigns aimed at halting -- and holding corporations accountable for -- environmental, animal-rights and public health abuses.

Forging this kind of marriage to produce anti-progressive legislation is old hat to ALEC, now in its thirtieth year of policy bending. With an annual budget of nearly $6 million, ALEC's funders read like a Who's Who of the right, and include organizations like the National Rifle Association, Family Research Council and Heritage Foundation. It counts conservative activists and politicians such as Jesse Helms, Jack Kemp and Henry Hyde among its alumni. Enron, Phillip Morris (now Altria) and several oil companies rank among ALEC's corporate sponsors. And to bring the loop full-circle, ALEC boasts 2,400 state lawmakers representing all 50 states among its current members.

In light of this, it's hardly shocking that ALEC is no friend to green groups. According to a 2002 report by Defenders of Wildlife and the Natural Resources Defense Council, corporations and trade associations "funnel cash through ALEC to curry favor with state lawmakers through junkets and other largesse in the hopes of enacting special interest legislation -- all the while keeping safely outside the public eye."

The strategy obviously works. ALEC spokesperson David Wargin estimates that out of about 1,000 ALEC model bills introduced in the last legislative session, 200 were enacted.

The Animal and Ecological Terrorism Act may be next. Intended for states, it criminalizes virtually all forms of environmental or animal-rights advocacy. Versions of the proposed law were introduced in Texas in February and in New York in March. New York Assembly member Richard Smith (D-Blasdell), who introduced that state's bill, says four or five other states have also expressed interest.

The Texas bill defines an "animal rights or terrorist organization" as "two or more persons organized for the purpose of supporting any politically motivated activity intended to obstruct or deter any person from participating in an activity involving animals or... natural resources." The bill adds that "'Political motivation' means an intent to influence a government entity or the public to take a specific political action." Language in the New York bill is similarly broad.

Michael Ratner, a human rights lawyer and vice-president of the Center for Constitutional Rights, has never seen such draconian legislation in the United States.

"This is unique. Even under the definition of domestic terrorism in the Patriot Act, you have to at least do something that arguably threatens people's lives," he says. "The definitional sections of this legislation are so broad that they sweep within them basically every environmental and animal-rights organization in the country."

Sandy Liddy Bourne, director of the ALEC task force that came up with the model bill, insists the legislation is narrowly targeted at environmental and animal-rights extremists who blow up buildings or destroy research facilities.

"We're certainly not attempting to interfere with anybody's civil rights to protest or express their opinion on environmental or animal-rights issues," she says. However, "there are legitimate business operations across our country that are being targeted by environmental extremists, and it's time to bring this kind of activity to a halt."

Ratner points out that there are laws against trespassing, vandalism, destruction of property, disorderly conduct and disturbing the peace. The only reason for this legislation, he says, is to eliminate all forms of dissent, including the time-honored democratic traditions of nonviolent, peaceful protest and civil disobedience.

Civil rights advocates who thought the Patriot Act was bad should turn their attention to this legislation. Because if ALEC is successful, millions of people might just lose the only tool they have left: the right to loud and public dissent.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: shroomsi8]
    #1653716 - 06/22/03 04:34 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

I dont get it.
Behind any corporation are ppl, loads of ppl, why do they value mony aboven anything else?
Why do they pursue the clinical death of the earth?


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: Dava]
    #1653894 - 06/22/03 05:43 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: MetaShroom]
    #1654176 - 06/22/03 07:56 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

What a bunch of twisted garbage. "Environmental" groups are nothing but a sham. I read a story about some tree huggers burning SUVs at a dealership. The smoke that they put off dumped more pollution in the air that the vehicles would produce in a lifetime. Way to go greenys. Now science is starting to prove global warming is nothing but a part of a cycle but you don't see that plastered all over the news. The "right" groups, NRA, sportsmans societys, do more to help the environment than any of these so called green groups ever do.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: ShroomFarmer]
    #1654193 - 06/22/03 08:05 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

"Environmental" groups are nothing but a sham.

yeah, its all about ignorant generalizations, thats the best way to discover the truth.

according to this logic, all right-wingers are racist, greedy, fat pigs who like to kill children and dump oil in the ocean.

brighten up sucker. if you actually think the NRA does more for the environment than the WWF, youre a fuckin robot.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1654197 - 06/22/03 08:08 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

Quote:


Now science is starting to prove global warming is nothing but a part of a cycle but you don't see that plastered all over the news.




Wow - you believe those scientist that work for the bush government?
Cause they are the only one's that say this type of bullshit.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: Dava]
    #1654206 - 06/22/03 08:11 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

yes "science" is proving something.

unfortunatly, science is not a sentient being, but rather a tool for those with rescources effective enough to get publicized. $$$$$

check your sources, just because one study says something, doesnt mean its truth, scientific truth is relative to what the scientists were trying to prove.

like the age old adage, dont believe everything you read, dont believe leftist or rightist propaganda.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: ShroomFarmer]
    #1654720 - 06/22/03 10:59 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

its not part of a cycle. we should be in an ICE AGE right now. instead, we're warming up the planet a hell of a lot. we've managed to BREAK the cycle


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    #1654758 - 06/22/03 11:17 PM (14 years, 5 days ago)

I was on one of those sites. It had a pdf file on how to make a bomb. Too bad I restarted my pc and forgot the site but if I do remember it I'll post a link to the pdf file with the bomb making instruction made by the TREE HUGGERS.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: downforpot]
    #1655312 - 06/23/03 04:22 AM (14 years, 4 days ago)

actually, that shroom farmer fellow is on to a grain of truth. there is far less consensus in the scientific community about global warming that is commonly believed by liberals.

now, this doesn't mean ANYTHING in so far as policy decisions ought to be made. like how there wasn't conclusive evidence of DDT being harmful at first. it ought to have (in retospect) been tested/not have been used just to be on the safe side. likewise, if there is the possibility that we are killing our planet, we ought to stop and check it out.


anyway, as to the point of this thread... I'm all for eco-terrorists being labeled as such. that means all the more attention! all the more glory! after a few dozen suburban white kids get like exiled or executed or whatever they to do 'trators'/'terrorists'/'pinko commies' these days, perhaps people will scratch their heads!

that's the most you can strive for.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: shroomsi8]
    #1655721 - 06/23/03 09:36 AM (14 years, 4 days ago)

do these laws boil down to saying that it's possible for you to be a 'terrorist' even if you do not commit or threaten a violent act?

if so, that's pretty sad.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: ShroomFarmer]
    #1655758 - 06/23/03 10:03 AM (14 years, 4 days ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3006448.stm

I await your predictable and unconsidered reply with a keen sense of anticipation! :grin:

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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1663599 - 06/26/03 05:01 AM (14 years, 1 day ago)

Quote:

atomikfunksoldier said:
"Environmental" groups are nothing but a sham.

yeah, its all about ignorant generalizations, thats the best way to discover the truth.

according to this logic, all right-wingers are racist, greedy, fat pigs who like to kill children and dump oil in the ocean.

brighten up sucker. if you actually think the NRA does more for the environment than the WWF, youre a fuckin robot.



NRA works to preserve land and nature. It's part of NRA's activities.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1663736 - 06/26/03 06:38 AM (14 years, 1 day ago)

rail gun:

yeah right, everyone knows that the NRA is a secret nazi experiment to promote the legalization of cannibalism in order for it be lawful to sell and market human meat, or as they call it "soylent green".

read a fucking book. or better yet, rent the film "soylent green" and see for yourself.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1664281 - 06/26/03 01:23 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

Everyone knows that. DUH!!! Also enviromentalists are aliens, liberals don't take baths, and there are cameras in the TV set.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1664358 - 06/26/03 01:52 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

You have NRA mixed up with the freemasons. It's the freemasons that do all those things, look on the back of the one dollar bill. Their plan is in code on it!!! And they're controled by the british crown that takes orders from the trilateral commission.


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1664386 - 06/26/03 02:09 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

The illumanti are behind it all...


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Re: Environmentalism=Terrorism [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1664575 - 06/26/03 03:24 PM (14 years, 1 day ago)

EVERYTHING IS FINE! DON"T WORRY! NO PROBLEN HERE! MOVE ALONG PEOPLE.

What is it going to take for people to wake up to the truth that they are lied to on a daily basis by corrupt special interest ensnared politicians who have election cycles occupying far too much of their cognitive landscape?




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