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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16626205 - 08/01/12 01:44 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Last week was warm and dry (I don't really complain, finally a "real" summer week). This week started with rain and more will come...

I don't want the liberty cap season o start yet for a few weeks. I want concentrate on the edibles first.

Urban lawns can sometimes be fantastic. In 2007 I found a circulation zone for cars with newly laid grass-on-roll in the small zones directing the cars where to go, the round place in the middle and so on. In one night I picked 700 libs there. A friend returned a few days later and picked 300 and I found a few hundred more later.

Next year I only found 5... and they haven't returned in larger numbers.

Sometimes you just have to be lucky. And note where the big lawn movers are used, those are great at spreading spores.

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: knarkkorven]
    #16626297 - 08/01/12 02:31 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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knarkkorven said:

I don't want the liberty cap season o start yet for a few weeks. I want concentrate on the edibles first.




Yes, I agree, chanterelles are coming by the bucket loads right now, and the
Boletus edulis should also start shaking soon. Hunting for libs as well at the
same time ends up being like having two girlfriends or something.

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Urban lawns can sometimes be fantastic. In 2007 I found a circulation zone for cars with newly laid grass-on-roll in the small zones directing the cars where to go, the round place in the middle and so on. In one night I picked 700 libs there. A friend returned a few days later and picked 300 and I found a few hundred more later.

Next year I only found 5... and they haven't returned in larger numbers.




I have found a few similar places, seems grass-on-roll is fertilized as it is installed
and whatever spores are in the fertilizer will take a year or two to yield fruits. Then
for some reason there is no continuity and it dies out pretty soon.


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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16639773 - 08/03/12 12:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Some glorious youths of today:



A small collection for purely scientific purposes:



"You trying to feed me that junk? Yecch!!"



(Not my cat, btw, it snuck up behind me)


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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16642809 - 08/04/12 12:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Urban lawns can sometimes be fantastic. In 2007 I found a circulation zone for cars with newly laid grass-on-roll in the small zones directing the cars where to go, the round place in the middle and so on. In one night I picked 700 libs there. A friend returned a few days later and picked 300 and I found a few hundred more later.





Nice finds Anglerfish.:thumbup:

I would love to stumble on an urban patch of libs that would be very exciting. Sounds like the first year they fruited heavily and then the mycelium knew the drainage/pH/nutritional factors had changed and the mycelium has recated badly. (or is adjusting?)

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Sobercolober]
    #16643244 - 08/04/12 04:27 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Nice finds Anglerfish.:thumbup:

I would love to stumble on an urban patch of libs that would be very exciting. Sounds like the first year they fruited heavily and then the mycelium knew the drainage/pH/nutritional factors had changed and the mycelium has recated badly. (or is adjusting?)




Thanks, Sobercolober! No serious amounts yet, but good to see things starting to happen.
It is always nice to go looking when the weather is still warm.

I'm steadily watching the UK thread hoping to see some action there soon.

My thoughts regarding the sometimes irregular fruiting consistency in urban
areas are that the lawns need regular fertilizing to keep the grass roots healthy
and thus available as nutrients for the mushrooms in due time.

I believe that a mass fruiting of liberty caps in a limited lawn space will drain
the source of nutrients for the next season. I see lawns sometimes taking
breaks for one or two seasons between fruitings.

Of course I could be wrong, and there are probably other unseen factors
but it seems kind of logical to me anyway.

Edited by Anglerfish (08/04/12 04:31 AM)

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16648558 - 08/05/12 05:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Well, after a week since my first find things have developed a little bit.
Went to my "golden" pasture this morning, only to find this one specimen:



Returning back to the city, I dropped by the business park lawn where I
found a few earlier this week, and suddenly I found a little bit more:







This is not exactly a haul, but still a trip's worth (about 40 I guess):



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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16648591 - 08/05/12 05:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Anglerfish said:
Well, after a week since my first find things have developed a little bit.
Went to my "golden" pasture this morning, only to find this one specimen:



Returning back to the city, I dropped by the business park lawn where I
found a few earlier this week, and suddenly I found a little bit more:







This is not exactly a haul, but still a trip's worth (about 40 I guess):







Still looking good there :super:

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: nagelbitarn]
    #16659735 - 08/07/12 10:41 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Right, so I've been out and about again, finding that another of my
"secret" spots has started to yield fruits. Also found a few in a lawn
not more than 20 meters from my house - which for as long as I've
been checking it (10+ years) never produced much fungi apart from
the odd Panaeolina.

From todays short foray in the sheep pastures:



 

The bunch from the last pictures had rather thick and short stems, and
a couple of them showed a bit of bluing at the base as well:



Panaeolus papilionaceus, growing from composted horse manure.



Panaeolus cinctulus, also from horse manure:



There are no horses about in this particular field, yet there are piles of
horse manure spread around.

And yeah, Nagelbitarn: would it perhaps be suitable to rename this thread to
Nordic & Baltic liberty cap thread 2012? Thinking about the Finnish, Estonian
and Icelandic posters - and the fact that the Scandinavian countries aren't
actually over-represented on the forum... where are the Danes, btw?


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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16659768 - 08/07/12 10:48 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Ok, I changed the thread's title.

Haha, don't know how you do it... I've been looking in my golden pastures and I've got nothing since the first ones. Can't understand it, but I'm glad you're finding some! Nice photos too.

Where in Norway do you live? What has the weather been like?

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: nagelbitarn]
    #16660077 - 08/07/12 11:50 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Where in Norway do you live? What has the weather been like?




I live in Bergen, on the west coast. It is generally a rainy place, so there
have been showers every other day even as it is summer. Temps have
been between 16 and 23 degrees centigrade, so it is actually a bit warm
compared to the last weeks continuous fruitings.

Thanks for your comments, really looking forward to see some action
in your area as well!


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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16660395 - 08/07/12 12:55 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Nice Angler! I have heard Bergen get a lot of rain, like Norways rainiest city or something... wait, I have to google that.

Ahh.. yeah. The record of days or nights of rain in a row is held by Bergen and is 103, but Bærum has the record of days with rain during daytime only, which is 87. In 2007 you were close to beat that record, but stopped on 84 or 85. Well, In a place with around 240 rain days a year, I think it's great that you have mushrooms as a hobby!

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/hordaland/1.1677418
http://pub.nettavisen.no/nettavisen/ibergen/article862442.ece
http://bysiden.no/sted/Bergen/places/info/

I have not found any libs lately myself. But it's been raining heavy for two days now. Great for all the mushrooms!

But now something to drool over:

A couple of days ago I found something cool. Well, it wasn't me but someone from Finland who posted on a Finnish forum which a user from sweden read and posted some liks to photos of mushrooms and habitat on a swedish forum. It was thought to be liberty caps... They are growing in a forest, where it has been cut out a few meters for power grids, and thick pine forest on the sides. The ground is covered up to 0.5-1m with Filipendula ulmaria, Ranunculus, Equisetum sylvaticum, and other herbs, just like any other sunny spot in a forest in our part of the world. Highly ordinary. Some grass here and there of course and the "right" moss (Campylium stellatum) which almost always are present in liberty cap habitat, but I think it is totally wrong habitat for liberty caps. And the mushrooms grows straight from the ground that looks mostly like pine needles and composted birch leaf. Definitely psilocybe, almost identical with semilanceata, has nipples, but at the same time a weird look and in one photo grows 9 in a cluster. It might be psilocybe silvatica, pelliculosa or something new!

I have asked him (through the user who found his post) to post here on Shroomery, take more photos in the future and save a cap or so for our mycologists. But if he doesn't post the photos in a few days, I will do it myself.

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: knarkkorven]
    #16660850 - 08/07/12 02:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Very exciting to hear this. I am, as a matter of fact, drooling.:drooling:

Can't wait to see pictures of that find. I'm dreaming about finding
a conifer Psilocybe myself, and have a few areas I will check in the
near future. Expectations are low, though.

As well, there has been one find way back of a Psilocybe sp. very
close to P. arcana, in the southernmost part of Norway, which is
intriguing.

Not to speak of Pluteus salicinus, which I really covet. Hope to
see more finds from you, Knark!

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16660938 - 08/07/12 02:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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From todays short foray in the sheep pastures:




There must be 5,000 sheep surrounding me out here in the Oregon countryside and not one damn lib in the last 3 years of searching :lol:

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: RiverDweller1]
    #16661054 - 08/07/12 02:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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There must be 5,000 sheep surrounding me out here in the Oregon countryside and not one damn lib in the last 3 years of searching :lol:




Perhaps you should try to look in some lawn next door, like where I found these little fellas:



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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16661262 - 08/07/12 03:29 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

cool if there is arcana in Norway, who found them and when? Was it confirmed under a microscope?

There is a few psilocybe and deconica which are very rare, like atrobrunnea (=turficola , http://www.stridvall.se/fungi/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Psilocybe ), fimetaria ( http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/6107611 ), and a few more.

and some strange deconica species... check out this one for example, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13078505 has also been found by another shroomer in Västergötland last year.

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16661270 - 08/07/12 03:31 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Nice libs Angler!:cool:


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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: knarkkorven]
    #16661322 - 08/07/12 03:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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cool if there is arcana in Norway, who found them and when? Was it confirmed under a microscope?





This is quoted from the Norwegian mycological database:

Cfr. PSILOCYBE ARCANA : VEST-AGDER, KRISTIANSAND, Kristiansand: Strai På avfallsfylling, 1987.09.07, Halvorsen, Knut - Det. Borovicka, Jan (2.11.2008) <Note: This collection might be attributed to P. arcana, but the spores are not the same as in typical P. arcana. I have no other idea, but among the bluing species, this collection undoubtedly belongs to the stirps Serbica, not Cyanescens. Microscopical descri> (O-F177904 - edit: 2009.02.25)

It is all the info I have. Perhaps Jan Borovička still has the data on this find?
Probably wouldn't hurt to ask him.


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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Anglerfish]
    #16665589 - 08/08/12 10:56 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, why not...

Only one found today.. hard to spot in grass when they are wet (brown)


Edited by knarkkorven (08/08/12 02:53 PM)

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: knarkkorven]
    #16665706 - 08/08/12 11:27 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Very nice pics Anglerfish :thumbup:

Season is getting started it seems.


Edited by Mikael (08/08/12 02:11 PM)

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Re: Scandinavian liberty cap thread 2012 [Re: Mikael]
    #16666419 - 08/08/12 03:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I've just found this thread and want to say I'm pleased for you that you're finding some there.
I'm finding the habitat aspects of the thread interesting too; I only look in the traditional areas, but know people who travel a long way from the cities looking for liberty caps, who may also find some in tended areas closer to home.

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