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psilo9com
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How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms?
#1652858 - 06/22/03 01:30 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Let's say that's a life goal of yours.
How would you do it? I think I'd do a room full of straw beds. It would probably take months though.
I was discussing this with a friend today and he said it's impossible. I told him if you really tried, I'm sure you can do it somehow.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: psilo9com]
#1652951 - 06/22/03 02:07 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's deffinitly possible, visit a cultivation operation like this one, and see for your self:
http://www.bioart.co.uk/culture/imageOEA.JPG
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: Dank420]
#1653007 - 06/22/03 02:51 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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You could do it with approximately 1000 lbs of Cracked Corn, which would cost about $100. Cooked, that would be about 1600 quarts of spawn, or 400 gallons.
400 gallons = 92400 cubic inches. With casings 5" deep that would be 18480 square inches, or 128 square feet, approximately 11.5 feet X 11.5 feet
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#1653353 - 06/22/03 10:31 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah! I like to see mathmatics used to answer cultivation questions. 5 shrooms to you. 
Now how much time would that take?
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: HagbardCeline]
#1653498 - 06/22/03 12:07 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I plan on doing a few pound operations here and there. Gotta get some experience under my belt first. But once I have my mind set on something, its going to get done. I plan on dropping 500-600 dollars on a grow setup whenever I feel comfortable with my cultivation skills. *i'm a newbie right now so it'll be a while ;P*
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: LucidFenix119]
#1653506 - 06/22/03 12:11 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sure all the NARCs are putting you nicely in their wish list... bragging about "pounds" operations is probably not so healthy. read these wise words... http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=1303802
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: kukusz]
#1653514 - 06/22/03 12:15 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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B/c i'm an aspiring mycologist has nothing to do with illegal operations. I come to this site to learn valuable mycology information. My post implied nothing illegal.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: LucidFenix119]
#1653519 - 06/22/03 12:16 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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That's fine that it didn't imply anything illegal, that doesn't mean they can't investigate those that "imply" about growing pounds and pounds of "legal" mushrooms. It's just not direct evidence but it's enough for investigating. Do you want that kind of attention?
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: LucidFenix119]
#1653522 - 06/22/03 12:17 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thx for looking out for a fellow grower though. If I did grow illegal mushrooms I'd probably take your advice ;D.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: LucidFenix119]
#1653532 - 06/22/03 12:23 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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no problem - just want to make sure that your shitake farm is not destroyed for evidence. that would be very sad.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: kukusz]
#1653777 - 06/22/03 02:54 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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It wouldn't be hard, but you'd need some form of massive air exchange, and probably a cooling system 'cause it would get pretty hot in there....
Composting might be the easiest way to go -- you can do *bales* of straw at a time.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: kukusz]
#1653794 - 06/22/03 03:01 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
kukusz said: I'm sure all the NARCs are putting you nicely in their wish list... bragging about "pounds" operations is probably not so healthy.
read these wise words...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=1303802
That always help from keeping DEA from investigating you Best to talk small even afoaf
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: FallenShroom]
#1653814 - 06/22/03 03:12 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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.... or just not sell Well, you're right. -- Micro
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Edited by micro (06/22/03 03:12 PM)
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: micro]
#1654003 - 06/22/03 04:27 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Cracked corn, at least arround here, sells for the same price per per pound as Cracked corn, and should yeild more per dollar spent.
On the other hand, straw can be pasteurized faster than corn can be sterilized, so a CC/straw combo would cost a little more, and take up quite a bit more space, it would be alot easier, and take alot less time.
As for air exchange and humidity, it would probably be enough to crack a window, cover the floor with plastic and wet pearlite, and put a few fans in the room. If the room had a dirt or cement floor you wouldn't even need the plastic and pearlite, just keep the floor wet.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: micro]
#1654010 - 06/22/03 04:31 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol i don't someone could eat 100lbs of shitake in their life time.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
#1654365 - 06/22/03 07:05 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I have seen a few operations in my day. Two that stood out used an old refrigerator and one of those rubbermaid stand-up, self-contained closets. Each had several shelfs with drip sheilds for each shelf. Humidifiers pumped air into the compartment above the top drip sheild. Air and water exited through a hold in the bottom. With both the humidifier was housed in a bottom compartment. The water dripped into a bucket or such. This isn't as large as some operations but both were done in apartments and could produce your desired yeild a few years at most.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: ourdeathwish]
#1654539 - 06/22/03 08:07 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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You really only need about 2 foot of over head space to grow a casing,so I'd opt for the dresser approach. An 11.5X11.5 square on top of another one, prolly get 4 or 5 in a single room. Line the bottom of the trays / shelves with plastic and then layer with perlite, fix a light to the bottom of each tray for the casing below it, suck air through the top with a fan and Pipe in an ultrasonic from the bottom. Set a space heater next to the box and let 'er rip. Could prolly put some HUGE Bulk substrate casings or a lot of little 11in. X 9in. casings in there. I'd never go with the big casing idea though, what you gonna do with contams? I'd say a whole bunch of easily managable 11 X 9 in. casings would work better.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: BetMomIsProud]
#1655071 - 06/22/03 11:57 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Rent an apartment for six months.
Run a HEPA filter full time in the house.
Buy a few indoor greenhouse's from ebay.
Use straw logs. The tek writer got a 17lb first flush from his. 4' log I believe.
100lbs is like a ton of shrooms. You could never have a setup that dried them fast enough, without taking up a large amount of space.
AFOAF would definately use straw logs. Quite a bit easier and more foolproof than casings.
You need a few days at least to do the initial setup, please a nice bit of space. 20-30, 3-4' logs should do 100lbs at least (wet).
I'm tinking prep time would be a solid weekend. Straw would be messy.
Just removed the contam'd logs and you'd be set.
You would have to spend about 2 months or so getting the grain to spawn setup. You would definately want to look into G2G, or at least a lot of syringes. 
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: u4ia]
#1655078 - 06/23/03 12:03 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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link to the tek?
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u4ia
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: LucidFenix119]
#1655768 - 06/23/03 12:21 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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search? It's YOUR friend.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: u4ia]
#1656147 - 06/23/03 03:03 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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that avatar is just gross u4.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: hawksapprentice]
#1656493 - 06/23/03 05:47 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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She's the hottest 14 year old i've seen in weeks.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: u4ia]
#1657393 - 06/23/03 11:51 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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yea the DEA really dosent care about some punk kid growing a few schrooms so you can eat them with soem friends. But they may care about growing 100 lbs, just lay the spores in there place and let nature take its course. Why cant i eat a muschroom in peace? Why cant i pick up my club and beat some ho over the head and take her back to my cave? Its called civilation and we must all be civilized the modern way. Dont eat mushrooms you will trip and have a fun time.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: Artifice]
#1659654 - 06/24/03 08:29 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've got a few pm's on this.
Just wanted to clear somethings up.
You would use grain, no doubt about it. The HARDEST part of this, is creating enough spawn. You need to use a nice amount in order to ward off contams in the logs. Faster they colonize, the less time the contams have to take over.
FOR THE CHEAP ASSES (;)), I would be posting my cheap, no contam, no glovebox, KARO TEK soon. Just want to make sure it's fairly legit before I lead people on.
One syringe from a good vendor, should make (in theory of course) at least 500cc's of mycelium ready to tear ass through your quart jars. This will take the time down quite a bit in the overall aspect. 500cc's is more than enough to produce 20 logs.
Here's the math,
One 10cc Syringe, known good, from a vendor. My KARO tek, no glove box needed, no contams, NO TRICH. 500cc's of solution. 50syringes. 2-3cc's per quart jar. 30 3ft. straw logs, taking 6 jars a piece for good spawn times.
Take 4-5 days off your quart jars colonization times, when using this "steroid" mycelium solution. 14-18days for the log to colonize, a week to pin decently, a week to grow.
Take your 30 spent logs, make one helluva outdoor garden, get another few wet pounds out of them.
Simple math. Will it work? Anyone want to log someting like this?
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: u4ia]
#1659661 - 06/24/03 08:31 PM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Ths above, is to eliminate a glovebox needed to do G2G.
It all works the same, but a glovebox is a nice extra step, and a decent one is a fairly big investment, at least one proven to work.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: u4ia]
#1670937 - 06/29/03 04:16 AM (20 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yesterday a three legged dog said once he gets the hang of the basics he has a secret room in his overtly large shop on privy land he might be willing to try
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: ScU]
#4366948 - 07/03/05 05:30 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Anymore options?
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: LowriderGuy]
#4366993 - 07/03/05 05:52 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think You would do it like this
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: Realnuggetz]
#4367001 - 07/03/05 05:56 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Surprised nobody mentioned poo for bulk....sure would beat having to PC 1000lbs. of corn. You could cut it down to 200lbs. if you used poo.
Edited by kronnyQ (07/03/05 05:57 PM)
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: kronnyQ]
#4367029 - 07/03/05 06:14 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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kronnyQ that icon of that asian chick you have, it rules
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: kronnyQ]
#4367044 - 07/03/05 06:20 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yea, you'd use poo in my picture. The way I see it, from what I have read, that lab pictured could produce, at maximum capacity, 120lb. dry in a flush, give or take? I think anyway, seems like alot, but just reading the double tub tek, thats what I figure.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: Realnuggetz]
#4367079 - 07/03/05 06:40 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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I can see that the serious growers stayed away from answering this because it's a foolish question.....BUT...if I were to do it, I would use grain>poo>superspawn(poo). The growroom is easy for anyone to figure out. Alll this talk about corn and double tubs is foolish. I am going under the assumption that you are talking 100lbs dry. 100lbs wet is easy to grow and in that case maybe the tubs is a viable option but not the easiest.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: azurescens]
#4367186 - 07/03/05 07:18 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Step 1: Rent a place in Holland. Step 2: Rent a Chemical Engineer and some Mycologist. Step 3: Beat Chemical Engineer and Mycologist with sticks until they do your job for you.
Seriously though, this is a project that you would have to spend some serious time on and you would know enough to not have to ask this question.
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Re: How would you grow 100 lbs of mushrooms? [Re: azurescens]
#4367381 - 07/03/05 08:27 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
azurescens said: I can see that the serious growers stayed away from answering this because it's a foolish question.....BUT...if I were to do it, I would use grain>poo>superspawn(poo). The growroom is easy for anyone to figure out. Alll this talk about corn and double tubs is foolish. I am going under the assumption that you are talking 100lbs dry. 100lbs wet is easy to grow and in that case maybe the tubs is a viable option but not the easiest.
What method would you use??... thats is if we lived in europe
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