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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: PureHash]
    #16521059 - 07/12/12 04:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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The gray one is cobweb.

The white one kinda looks like bacteria. I only say this becasue mycelium doesnt branch out like that. Its hard to tell with thoe picture but here is a picture I have.

Healthy mycelium on the left, and bacteria on the right. Notice the difference?






Mycelium branches out all the time.  You don't "see" bacteria, you just "see" the effects of it.


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #16521067 - 07/12/12 04:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

and to the OP....the white one looks good in my opinion.  The gray one can be cobweb, it doesn't look too good.


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: AceofShroomz]
    #16521102 - 07/12/12 04:36 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Thanks I also think the white is good. Compared to everything I've seen it seems fine. Unfortunately all the others will be thrown away. The pictures are taken on my cellphone so they aren't great. Man what a freakin bummer. At least I have a liquid culture that's almost ready to inoculate with. Live and learn. I knew the heater was a horrible idea, was just trying to speed up the process. Patience is a virtue indeed.




Make sure to test the LC out before you go all out on 50 jars.  Heaters are always a bad idea.  Make sure your sterile procedures are up to par too, also make sure your spores are from a good vendor.


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: Doc_T]
    #16521118 - 07/12/12 04:39 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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LC?!?! ARgh!

If so many jars are bad, your LC likely is too.
Proceed with extreme caution as far as that LC goes.
I'd toss it and start over with agar, personally. Agar is cheaper and easier than it looks.




Agar isn't for rookies.  Recommending agar to someone struggling with a syringe and PF-Tek just isn't the best idea.  No offense to the OP.


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: AceofShroomz]
    #16521128 - 07/12/12 04:40 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually none of these were inoculated with the LC. This was created afterwards, with different spores, and in a different setup etc. The LC has nothing to do with the initial colonized substrate jars which were colonized with spore syringes. I'm going to inoculate some with the LC this time, some with syringes. I'm just trying different things. Something will work out for Me. I'm not the type to give up, yet I do get frustrated. Such a bummer peoples..




LC's are awesome when they come out clean.  It's all a learning process, whatever you get to work stick with it.


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: AceofShroomz]
    #16521219 - 07/12/12 05:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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http://mushroompalace.com/grow-your-own/liquid-culture
This is the website I used to make the liquid culture. But yeah I'll probably skip on that for now and just try again with the classic pf-tek. I really think that the whole heating element is what caused this. It introduced a lot of extra moisture into the jars very quickly, which I'm sure carried some sort of contaminates.




Heating the jars caused the moisture to invade the dry verm layer which invited the contams.  Where did you get the syringes?


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: AceofShroomz]
    #16521233 - 07/12/12 05:04 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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I'll post some pics of the LC if you guys want. It's rather soonish I don't think you can see the growth in pictures yet. When you agitate the jars you can see fluffy stuff floating around that looks consistent with pics I have seen. The water isn't getting cloudy or anything. Who knows. For the moment I'm lightweight devastated. I'll be prepping and getting everything ready for another inoculation procedure tonight. I've been wanting to do this for a long time and I'm not giving up. I'm disappointed that as soon as I used the heating technique a lot of people told me that is a horrible idea. The fact that I was able to find a lot of people recommending it on write-ups/walk-throughs (not necessarily on this site) is totally uncoolish.




you can't tell if an LC is clean until you test it.  Even with pics...


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: PureHash]
    #16521865 - 07/12/12 07:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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The gray one is cobweb.

The white one kinda looks like bacteria. I only say this becasue mycelium doesnt branch out like that. Its hard to tell with thoe picture but here is a picture I have.

Healthy mycelium on the left, and bacteria on the right. Notice the difference?







Mycelium branches out all the time.  You don't "see" bacteria, you just "see" the effects of it.



Don't blurt out incorrect information. Mycelium does not branch out, it may follow different pats, but each "branch is made of thousands of strands. His pictures, they look solid.

And yes. You CAN see certan types of bacteria. There are thousands of different types of it. I've even been mystaken myself and tried to fruit bacteria cakes. Witch obviously did not happen.... The cake turned orange within 24 hours.

Don't regurgitate false info.




No idea where you're coming from? When I say "branching out" I'm referring to rhizomorphic growth which is a sign of healthy mycelium.    When I've seen bacteria set in within a jar it will eventually turn the grain or brf/verm into a mushy type thing but no crazy colors, and the myc forms a border around the contam.......What false info have I regurgitated?  I'm interested...


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #16521914 - 07/12/12 07:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

and when bacteria infects the mycelium it kinda has a weird white look to it....like it's soupy or ice creamish....


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Re: Advice on white vs. grey mycelium! PICZ [Re: AceofShroomz]
    #16524911 - 07/13/12 11:08 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

yeah, he started trying to flame me, what a joke.  If I don't know what I'm talking about then I keep my trap shut.:shrug:


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