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 shroomben2003
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 Amanita Muscaria 
#1651860 - 06/21/03 06:45 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Damn, all this rain here in NY has been doing the trick. Theres about six huge ass yellow-orange cap amanita muscarias around my pine tree, any hints for how much I should eat?Thanks.
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Gorian
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First go pick them incase a person like me decides to go take em first.. hehe 
Edit- I found a guide to preparing them hereErowid guide to preparing A. Muscaria
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Edited by Gorian (06/21/03 07:07 PM)
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shroomben2003
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 Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: Gorian]
#1651895 - 06/21/03 07:12 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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HAHA!Thanks man!I just want to verify, there are NO lookalikes for amanita muscarias?? OK and the cap is slimy, is that normal. thanks for the site
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 RebelSteve33
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Actually, there are a couple species of Amanita that I think could be easily mistaken for Amanita muscaria var. formosa (or the Yellow Fly Agaric.)
One is called the Yellow Blusher, or Amanita flavorubescens, which is poisonous. It can be distinguished from the Yellow Fly Agaric by the fact that all parts of it stain pink when cut or bruised.
Another poisonous look-a-like, the Yellow Wart, or Amanita flavoconia grows east of the Great Lakes and looks very similar to the Yellow Fly Agaric except it is usually smaller in size.
The main way to make certain you have Amanita muscaria var. formosa is that the volva tissue will form "bracelets," or rings around the base of the stem.
Be careful when eating Amanitas!!!
Peace,
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ToxicMan
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For the pale capped varieties of Amanita muscaria (basically, all of them except the red ones), there are several lookalikes. The problem with the term "lookalike" is that what you think looks just like them might look like obviously different species to an expert mycologist. Considering that Rod Tulloss (the guy currently working on a monograph on Amanita) has come up with over 100 new species of Amanita from just the northeastern US, and the edibility/toxicity of probably all of them is unknown, you should be very sure that what you've got are Amanita muscaria before you eat them. You are aware, I hope, that the majority of fatalities from mushrooms are due to Amanitas?
If you can post some photos (be sure to include the stem, including the base) of your specimens, we can try to reduce the uncertainty a bit.
Happy mushrooming!
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shroomben2003
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: ToxicMan]
#1651967 - 06/21/03 07:55 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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ok thanks toxic man! I'll try to have pics of the amanitas muscarias soon!, I heard that the only way you could be certain if the spore print is white, thanks!
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RebelSteve33
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The spore prints of poisonous Amanitas are white as well. Like I said before, I think the appearance of the volva is the best way to be certain what species you have.
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shroomben2003
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Can anyone give me links to pics of amanita muscarias that are the real deal that show examples of the braclets that volva tissues look like?
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cube421
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I always thought Erowid had pics of them........ Or does it not?
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RebelSteve33
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Dude, have you ever heard of the search feature??? Try using it sometime!
Effed made a post not too long ago with some nice pics of Amanita muscaria var. formosa.
Since I'm a nice guy, here is the link to the thread. The "bracelets" that the volva forms are clearly visible on the younger specimen in his pics.
Peace,
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shroomben2003
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Sorry, ITS TOO LATE, I Can't think straight! Lol yea I was definately lazy.
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RebelSteve33
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It's cool...
So do you think that's what you have? Don't eat anything until you post some pics and get the expert's opinions. I don't want you to go killin' yourself, man! 
Peace,
RebelSteve
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shroomben2003
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I definately think i have the right thing, it dosen't stain pink when cut or torn, all i need to do is check tommorow to see if the ststems have rings, i'll try to get some pics up tommorw, their so nice though, don't forget about this post, come back tommroow and check everytime you come on to see if I posted the pics yet, thanks!
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shroomben2003
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Shit!, something crushed all the shrooms uP! Luckily I managed to pick one from the wreck of broken mushrooms. It's small, ill have pics of it today hopefully,peace.
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shroomben2003
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shroomben2003
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Well! is this the hallucinagenic amanita muscaria or is it poisonous!?? And would it be enough for my friend and I to trip??Peace
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shroomben2003
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Did you guys forget about me!lol Please tell me if this is the real hallucinagenic Amanita, Thanks!
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RebelSteve33
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Hey shroomben...
Sorry, but I do not have enough expertise in this area to give a definite yes or no based on those pictures. The first pic makes me think it might be, but I do not want to say yes for sure and have you get yourself killed.
Also, I'm not sure how much it takes for one to feel any effects from Amanitas. It's been a while since I researched this area. The Shroomery has a good section on Amanita info on the main site, though. You might want to look around there.
Maybe someone else here can say for sure what you've got from those pictures. I don't feel comfortable enough to do so, though. Sorry!
Peace,
RebelSteve
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Re: Amanita Muscaria [Re: ]
#1654475 - 06/22/03 07:46 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Mr_Mushrooms said:
Do not rush into mushroom experimentation. Many come to a bad end that way.
Agreed 
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