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Offlinelucid
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Casteneda
    #1648417 - 06/20/03 04:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Just wondering if anyone on this forum believed
Casteneda when they first read his books ?
I must admit that I really wanted to believe in
em when I read em (sarved for something exciting
and mystical as we all are), but then I realized
how stupid and "indulgent" I was being. Any one
else got taken in by the whole madness ?


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Re: Casteneda [Re: lucid]
    #1648440 - 06/20/03 04:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Why does it matter whether it was real or not? It has lots of amazing spiritual lessons it can teach, and has shown me much about myself. They are interesting books about cultures mysterious to us. Its a very good starting point for mysticism IMO.


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Re: Casteneda [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #1649419 - 06/20/03 09:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hi Mandrill,
I debated the same thing for a long time, but finally
decided that it did matter to me. In fact, I judge every
spiritual message by both the message and the messenger.
If a message has transformational power then I think one
can safely conclude that the messenger would be the first
to be effected.


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Re: Casteneda [Re: lucid]
    #1649621 - 06/20/03 10:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)


I read his first two books when I was 19 or 20, and I loved them and thought them probably true. I couldn't see my self taking the chances he took at the time but it was a window on a culture that was fascinating and I really enjoyed it. When I caught wind that the books were fabricated I never looked back, I was through with him. I agree that the message and the messenger should be one in the same, if either one is false then I'm wasting my time.


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Re: Casteneda [Re: AislingGheal]
    #1650099 - 06/21/03 01:59 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I read some of one of his books... it didn't really seem like he had taken drugs.


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