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Help losing the last pounds!
    #16433189 - 06/24/12 09:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

My BMR is about 1490 calories per day. I really want to get in shape and lose the last 4-5lbs of unattractive belly flab.

Currently I have been eating 1500 calories per day. High protein, lower carb.

I hike 5 miles per day with a 15lb pack and burn about 450-500 calories allegedly.


Anything else I can do to help this come off faster?


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: withoutawire]
    #16436580 - 06/25/12 04:48 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Running or HIIT will shred the fat. You would be waaay better of spending minimal time doing either of these, than hiking. (as far as caloric burn is concerned.)


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: PDU]
    #16437342 - 06/25/12 07:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I just hate running.

I guess I should be eating low fat, lower carb and take in many more calories. I've read around 2000-2300. I'm going to try 1800 and see if that works better.

My body is holding onto the fat and it's coming off real slow. I'd say 1/4lb a week. It's not a big deal because I can see it change every couple days just a little and it feels good, but I really am trying to lose it all by July 28th.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: PDU]
    #16437597 - 06/25/12 07:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Running or HIIT will shred the fat. You would be waaay better of spending minimal time doing either of these, than hiking. (as far as caloric burn is concerned.)





I can definitely agree with HIIT. I had an obese lady using HIIT and she lost lots of pounds very quickly.

I would recommend doing HIIT with some weightlifting in the intensity/volume area of hypertrophy. Make sure you do the right lifts though. Multi joint lifts are the most important. Squats, deadlifts, press, bench press, bent over rows, lunge, etc...


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: XUL]
    #16437709 - 06/25/12 08:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

HIIT and make sure your eating healthy fats big difference compared to bad ones....your body does need some fat to burn fat. I think your diet is fine high protein all the way minimal carbs unless weightlifting and make sure you get in a percentage of healthy fats. Also weightlifting plus cardio is the ultimate fat burning technique so if u aint weightlifting you should start if u really wanna speed up the fat burning process.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: tdubz]
    #16437778 - 06/25/12 08:32 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I've been weight lifting 3 times a week. I'm going to step it up to 5.


I don't eat ANYTHING that people 100 years ago would look at not know what it is. AKA oreos, chips, etc.

Breakfast- protein bar + banana
Lunch- Tuna or turky on whole wheat or a bunch of yogurt if I can't get a sandwhich.
Dinner- Chicken or fish + fruit + vegetables


I don't eat crap. I found some almond butter and peanut butter in my cabinet. I was going to toast that on whole wheat and have it for breakfast

I am sure this is the healthy fat you are talking about. I am not eating processed shit.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: withoutawire]
    #16437856 - 06/25/12 08:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yah PB is a good one depending on the brand most nuts are great for getting your fats in.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: withoutawire]
    #16438155 - 06/25/12 09:38 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

some weed and worship god with steroids


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: withoutawire]
    #16438404 - 06/25/12 10:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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withoutawire said:

I don't eat ANYTHING that people 100 years ago would look at not know what it is. AKA oreos, chips, etc.

Breakfast- protein bar + banana





Sorry. Had to point that out.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: PDU]
    #16438413 - 06/25/12 10:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

jumbalaya


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: Cherk]
    #16438423 - 06/25/12 10:54 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Carbs are actually best for breakfast not as good for u throughout the day especially at night that's bro science tho but I think protein is a better alternative for night snacks and food.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: tdubz]
    #16438766 - 06/26/12 12:21 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ephedrine + caffeine... period

no joke


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: LuSiD9]
    #16438798 - 06/26/12 12:30 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

not only does this stack burn fat... it also helps with the preservation of lean muscle mass during a 'cut' drastically...

gives you a crazy fucking mental/physical boost for your workout sessions as well...

not too mention it tends to slaughter your appetite...

just make sure to drink a shitload of water, shit makes you sweat like there's no tomorrow


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: LuSiD9]
    #16438811 - 06/26/12 12:33 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That's old school tho...there are better pre workout products now although a bit more pricey but nitric oxide is where its at but now ur talking about products to use when u get more serious in to lifting.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: tdubz]
    #16438826 - 06/26/12 12:36 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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That's old school tho...




and there's a good reason it's still around...  it works


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: withoutawire]
    #16440106 - 06/26/12 11:11 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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withoutawire said:
I've been weight lifting 3 times a week. I'm going to step it up to 5.


I don't eat ANYTHING that people 100 years ago would look at not know what it is. AKA oreos, chips, etc.

Breakfast- protein bar + banana
Lunch- Tuna or turky on whole wheat or a bunch of yogurt if I can't get a sandwhich.
Dinner- Chicken or fish + fruit + vegetables


I don't eat crap. I found some almond butter and peanut butter in my cabinet. I was going to toast that on whole wheat and have it for breakfast

I am sure this is the healthy fat you are talking about. I am not eating processed shit.




Healthy fats = Fats from Healthy Animals.  Coconut oil and Palm oil are also good to cook with.

Olive oil and other vegetable oils in moderation.  Nut oils are especially high in omega-6 and should not be a staple.

You are still eating lots of carbs there.  Stop eating any grains (ANY GRAINS!!) and you will lose that belly fat.

Fruit is fine, but don't eat too much.  Stay away from really starchy veggies.  If you need carbs sweet potato, turnip, quinoa are better sources (carbs only after exercise if you want to loose belly fat).

Next, MORE FAT!  If you want a body efficient at burning fat for energy then eat fat for energy!

I recommend you eat 2 eggs fried in butter in the mornings.  Some fruit is fine, but some veggies are better.  Maybe fry some onions and peppers with the eggs, or have a salad.

Eat fattier meats!

I have about 10% BF.  I have well defined lower abs because I avoid grains and eat lots of good fats.

Cook with butter, Ghee, Coconut oil, Lard etc.

All the stuff about saturated fats being bad is bullshit.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/09/20/on-the-evils-of-wheat-why-it-is-so-addictive-and-how-shunning-it-will-make-you-skinny/

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Q: A lot of us have switched to whole wheat products because we’ve been told complex carbohydrates are heart healthy and good for us. Are you saying that’s not true?

A: The research that indicates whole grains are healthy is all conducted the same way: white flour is replaced with whole wheat flour, which, no question, is better for you. But taking something bad and replacing it with something less bad is not the same as research that directly compares what happens to health and weight when you eliminate wheat altogether. There’s a presumption that consuming a whole bunch of the less bad thing must be good for you, and that’s just flawed logic. An analogy would be to say that filtered cigarettes are less bad for you than unfiltered cigarettes, and therefore, a whole bunch of filtered cigarettes is good for you. It makes no sense. But that is the rationale for increasing our consumption of whole grains, and that combined with the changes in wheat itself is a recipe for creating a lot of fat and unhealthy people.

Q: How does wheat make us fat, exactly?

A: It contains amylopectin A, which is more efficiently converted to blood sugar than just about any other carbohydrate, including table sugar. In fact, two slices of whole wheat bread increase blood sugar to a higher level than a candy bar does. And then, after about two hours, your blood sugar plunges and you get shaky, your brain feels foggy, you’re hungry. So let’s say you have an English muffin for breakfast. Two hours later you’re starving, so you have a handful of crackers, and then some potato chips, and your blood sugar rises again. That cycle of highs and lows just keeps going throughout the day, so you’re constantly feeling hungry and constantly eating. Dieticians have responded to this by advising that we graze throughout the day, which is just nonsense. If you eliminate wheat from your diet, you’re no longer hungry between meals because you’ve stopped that cycle. You’ve cut out the appetite stimulant, and consequently you lose weight very quickly. I’ve seen this with thousands of patients.

Q: But I’m not overweight and I exercise regularly. So why would eating whole wheat bread be bad for me?

A: You can trigger effects you don’t perceive. Small low-density lipoprotein [LDL] particles form when you’re eating lots of carbohydrates, and they are responsible for atherosclerotic plaque, which in turn triggers heart disease and stroke. So even if you’re a slender, vigorous, healthy person, you’re still triggering the formation of small LDL particles. And second, carbohydrates increase your blood sugars, which cause this process of glycation, that is, the glucose modification of proteins. If I glycate the proteins in my eyes, I get cataracts. If I glycate the cartilage of my knees and hips, I get arthritis. If I glycate small LDL, I’m more prone to atherosclerosis. So it’s a twofold effect. And if you don’t start out slender and keep eating that fair trade, organically grown whole wheat bread that sounds so healthy, you’re repeatedly triggering high blood sugars and are going to wind up with more visceral fat. This isn’t just what I call the wheat belly that you can see, flopping over your belt, but the fat around your internal organs. And as visceral fat accumulates, you risk responses like diabetes and heart disease.

Q: You seem to be saying that aside from anything else, wheat is essentially the single cause of the obesity epidemic.

A: I wouldn’t go so far as to say that all obesity is due to wheat. There are kids, of course, who drink Coca-Cola and sit in front of video games for many hours a day. But I’m speaking to the relatively health-minded people who think they’re doing the right thing by limiting fat consumption and eating more whole grains, and there’s a clear subset of people who are doing that and gaining weight and don’t understand why. It causes tremendous heartache. They come into my office and say, “I exercise five times a week, I’ve cut my fat intake, I watch portion size and eat my whole grains—but I’ve gone up three dress sizes.”

Q: You write that wheat is “addictive,” but does it really meet the criteria for addiction we’d use when talking about, say, drugs?

A: National Institutes of Health researchers showed that gluten-derived polypeptides can cross into the brain and bind to the brain’s opiate receptors. So you get this mild euphoria after eating a product made with whole wheat. You can block that effect [in lab animals] by administering the drug naloxone. This is the same drug that you’re given if you’re a heroin addict; it’s an opiate blocker. About three months ago, a drug company applied to the FDA to commercialize naltrexone, which is an oral equivalent to naloxone. And it works, apparently, it blocks the pleasurable feelings you get from eating wheat so people stop eating so much. In clinical trials, people lost about 22.4 lb. in the first six months. Why, if you’re not a drug addict, do you need something like that? And of course there’s another option, which is to cut wheat out of your diet. However, and this is another argument for classifying wheat as addictive, people can experience some pretty unpleasant withdrawal symptoms.

Q: For how long?

A: Generally about five days. And once you’re through withdrawal, your cravings subside, your calorie intake decreases and your alertness and overall health improve.

Q: So do you believe food manufacturers are putting wheat into more and more food products, not just bread and crackers, because it’s addictive and stimulates appetite?

A: These are not stupid people. The research showing that wheat stimulates appetite didn’t come from some little alternative health practitioner. It comes from the NIH. It stretches credibility to believe they have no awareness of the evidence.

Q: If there’s all this evidence, why does the government encourage us to “eat healthy” by upping our consumption of whole grains?

A: That’s the million-dollar question. Wheat is so linked to human habit, it’s 20 per cent of all calories consumed by humans worldwide, that I think there was the presumption, “Gee, humans have consumed this for thousands of years, so what’s the problem?” I don’t think the misguided advice to eat more whole grains came from evil intentions.

Q: Wheat is a huge industry. What do you say to all the farmers who grow it?

A: To me, it’s reminiscent of tobacco farmers, who would say, “Look, I’m just trying to make a living and feed my family.” Nevertheless, tobacco is incredibly harmful and kills people. It could turn out that if we wind back the clock 100 or 1,000 years, and resurrect einkorn or some of the heritage forms of wheat, maybe that would be a solution. Of course, wheat products would then be much more expensive. Instead of a $4 loaf of bread, maybe it would cost $7 when grown with a heritage wheat. To me, it’s similar to free range eggs or organic beef 20 years ago. Everyone said, “No one will pay a premium for those.” But people do. And when it comes to wheat, my main goal is to inform people, including farmers, that the prevailing notion that cutting fat and eating whole grains will make you healthy is not only wrong, it’s destructive.




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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: Cannashroom]
    #16440168 - 06/26/12 11:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

If you eat grains when your body is in a calorie deficit it gets stored as fat. Up your calories and stay away from wheat gluten. Buy some running shoes.


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Re: Help losing the last pounds! [Re: duff monkey]
    #16442753 - 06/26/12 08:51 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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If you eat grains when your body is in a calorie deficit it gets stored as fat. Up your calories and stay away from wheat gluten. Buy some running shoes.





Did you read what I said in my first post? I am exercising for 2 hours a day.


My problem is eating enough calories but still keeping my carbs low. How the fuck am I suppose to eat 2000 calories but yet eat 90g-100g of carbs?

It's really hard. It seems like meat and eggs as stated above are my only option.

I've decided that I am going to keep eating sandwhich at lunch. It's on whole grain. that plus a protein bar are the only carb sources I am getting. Any recipes that are high calorie low carb is helpful thanks.


I'll keep eating nuts for fat. I love peanut butter.


This also makes eating out REALLY hard. Today I had about 40g of carbs then it was my uncles bday so I had to eat carbs when we went out. I am probably up to around 120g carbs now. Much more than I'd like to eat, but not that bad because I was reading 160-200 is standard for someone trying to maintain weight.



As far as exercise goes, I got in 5.5 mile hike today + 350 crunches + 70 bench press + 60 bicpet/tricep.


I think adding the muscle mass + low carb will make a real difference. I JUST started the low carb so I won't really see how much this makes a difference for the next week or so, especially after tonight. I'd like to eat 60g-70 carbs a day for a week and see the difference.


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