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PowerOfOne
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wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones?
#16442411 - 06/26/12 07:44 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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hey guys, im wanting to start a monotub mini bulk grow, 1 MAYBE 2 tubs.
ive been reading seriously probably 8 hours today no joke, but it all seems so confusing.
i was wondering if there was a tek i could follow that is as detailed as RR's BF tek videos where i can follow it 100% step by step
i just need to find something that is FULL on detail, from how to make the substrate, all the ingredients, measurments, all the materials and supplies i need, etc etc etc...
it just seems so confusing because it seems EVERYONE does it different, and most of the teks ive found havent really explained how to make the jars, how to inoculate, or what supplies to use.
maybe i just didnt look in the right place, ive only been in the hobby a month and have BRF jars on the go as we speak, but i want to prepare for my next grow.
thanks!
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16442416 - 06/26/12 07:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#16442420 - 06/26/12 07:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#16442427 - 06/26/12 07:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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You can use your BRF jars and a cheese grater, and grate the BRF cakes into the coir in the monotub. I used to do it ALL of the time when I didnt have a pressure cooker.
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PowerOfOne
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#16442485 - 06/26/12 07:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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hmm, so i could follow that "how to coir" tech, and use my 6 brf jars and it would work? would i get more fruits than a SGFC like i planned on doing with this grow to begin with?
thanks for the 2 teks, do you have a tek on how he made his jars of spawn?
thats one of the main elements im confused with, some people have jars with spawn, and others seem to be inoculating bags??
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16442499 - 06/26/12 08:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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PowerOfOne said: would i get more fruits than a SGFC like i planned on doing with this grow to begin with?
Probably not. And it's slower, and riskier. For a first grow, fruit your cakes in a shotgun FC. A correct one, with holes every two inches all the way around all six sides.
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: Doc_T]
#16442520 - 06/26/12 08:05 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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ideally a shotgun would be your first choice for cakes. you COULD do it with coir. if you are still learning, the sgfc is easier.
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PowerOfOne
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#16442533 - 06/26/12 08:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok yeah i think ill just keep my cakes for the SGFC..
but still, im wanting to start a new project next week, the monotub.
how do i create my spawn jars? is there a detailed tek for that? what ingredients, how to inoculate, supplies needed etc, etc.
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Seanfu
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16442592 - 06/26/12 08:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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One step at a time is good. I have been doing this off and on for a year and am just now ready to do spawn and bulk mono.
Im still a noob too.
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Edited by Seanfu (06/26/12 08:24 PM)
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PowerOfOne
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: Seanfu]
#16442655 - 06/26/12 08:36 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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im so confused haha
so if i were to follow the 2 teks that he posted, thats cool they are great laid out step by step
but how do i knock up my substrate?
i need to know how to get the spores in there.
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16442667 - 06/26/12 08:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Screw SGFC, you only get a few grams dry each cake resulting in a lot of work for a sorry harvest. Monotube is really easy and produces a lot more shroomies with less effort. I would recommend monotube for main bulk grow, and SGFC for select strains you have interest in.
I found out everything for my first grow by just using search function. If you dont have a pressure cooker, I suggest using BRF cakes from RR videos http://www.mushroomvideos.com/ use http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595 for substrate, and http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8231041/fpart/1/vc/1 for the monotube. Any connecting questions you may have are somewhere in search function because I have most likely asked them or others.
This hobby takes a lot of time and patience, I spent about 3 weeks of constant lurking on forums until I felt confident with a grow and started putting teks and posts together. Take a lot of notes/print out posts and put em all together to go over. Good luck with whatever you decide to go with!
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Edited by Quillenator (06/26/12 08:40 PM)
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PowerOfOne
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: Quillenator]
#16442825 - 06/26/12 09:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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can i use this tek? plus the 2 teks posted earlier and have a very successful grow? i want a PERFECT grow for this one, i want one of those CRAZY 1000G flushes hahahha
http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16443245 - 06/26/12 10:43 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Finding teks is so simple on this site...
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PowerOfOne
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16445354 - 06/27/12 01:22 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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cool, thanks for the help bro! haha..........
so guys just a simple yes or no question then this thread can be killed
will
http://www.shroomery.org/10677/Monotub
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http://www.shroomery.org/10858/How-to-do-Coir
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http://www.shroomery.org/9030/Docs-Wild-Bird-Seed-Tek
=====SUCCESS?
i just want to know before i invest the money into this.
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Seanfu
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16445367 - 06/27/12 01:24 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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no no no and no if you dont know what the hell youre doing in the first place.
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PowerOfOne
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: Seanfu]
#16445387 - 06/27/12 01:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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why is is to hard to get some help around here? all i get is smart ass answers like ^^
i havent been an ass with anyone i just need some help.....
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Seanfu
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16445473 - 06/27/12 01:50 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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PowerOfOne said: why is is to hard to get some help around here? all i get is smart ass answers like ^^
i havent been an ass with anyone i just need some help.....
Im giving you help.... if you knew what you were doing you would know that just about any combination of inoculation, spawn, and fruiting would do....
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: Seanfu]
#16445525 - 06/27/12 01:58 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Seanfu said:
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PowerOfOne said: why is is to hard to get some help around here? all i get is smart ass answers like ^^
i havent been an ass with anyone i just need some help.....
Im giving you help.... if you knew what you were doing you would know that just about any combination of inoculation, spawn, and fruiting would do....
He doesn't know what he's doing. That's why he's asking.
OP, yes, that should work.
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Seanfu
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#16445572 - 06/27/12 02:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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The only reason I'm being a dick is because moving straight past pf and shotgun with no experience to do coir bulk sounds like a bad idea, especially when someone hasnt even done enough homework to know the lingo. I'm surprised theres any avocation of this whatsoever.
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: Seanfu]
#16445585 - 06/27/12 02:09 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I usually reccomend for people to go straight to bulk. It's not really that hard, especially if you have some help.
Discouraging the kid isn't gonna help him at all.
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#16445601 - 06/27/12 02:11 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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36fuckin5 said: I usually reccomend for people to go straight to bulk. It's not really that hard, especially if you have some help.
Discouraging the kid isn't gonna help him at all.
If you dont even have a real understanding of the lifespan of a mushroom or fruiting etc no mistakes made, how is a 20 step total gonna work out? If this is even a minor success I will revoke my shit talk, but I can promise 1 thing, I'm not gonna go start fixing cars because I read 3 pages of an auto manual. I might try a bike first.
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: Seanfu]
#16445651 - 06/27/12 02:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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As a former mod at Mycotopia (got de-modded over social bullshit), I coached many, many people through their first grows, most of them being bulk. It's just not that hard, really.
Hydrate grain Sterilize grain Inoculate Make bulk sub Pasteurize bulk Spawn Wait
That's about all there is to it, honestly. Equating it to fixing a car isn't a good example. Cars and computers are pretty much the most complicated machines on Earth.
-------------------- Redd Foxx said: If you're offended I don't give a shit and don't come see me no more. Pat The Bunny said: A punk rock song won't ever change the world, but I can tell you about a couple that changed me. bodhisatta said: i recommend common sense and figuring it out. These are the TEKs I use. They're all as cheap and easy as possible, just like your mom.
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PowerOfOne
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: 36fuckin5]
#16445775 - 06/27/12 02:44 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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thanks for all who have truly helped...
to the one guy, dude, im in the middle of a PF tek now.. my BRF jars are a week away from fruiting, so i am learning the steps, i just wanted to study a bulk for a couple of weeks and start a bulk because it looks better and it seems you get a HELL of alot more.
im not going out today or anything after i just got the "ok" to go ahead with the 3 teks i posted and asked if it would work, im going to study them and study the correct procedures, etc etc..
and to be honest, i see alot more people posting about failed PF tek BRF jars contams than i do see bulks failing on here (in my short time here) i think if i do everything 100% as the teks say, and make sure i dont skip a step, i dont see why i couldnt succeed....
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darkliight
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16445862 - 06/27/12 03:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I use different teks for different parts of the grow.
Spawn
I like to use PSiLO187's Simple Bulk Spawn Production Tek for this part. It is a combination of many other teks, but is very detailed and informative.
Bulk Substrate
Wow, so many options...
Coir and Verm: Daimon5050's tek H-Poo: Prof_P's Poo tek Straw: ShroomGod's tek
Containers
You could try TL's twist on Ohmatic containers. 64qt tub design and creation.
OR
You could always spend another $8.99 and get RR's videos from here:
RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms!
You can learn just about everything you need to know from his videos.
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Seanfu
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: PowerOfOne]
#16445892 - 06/27/12 03:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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PowerOfOne said: thanks for all who have truly helped...
to the one guy, dude, im in the middle of a PF tek now.. my BRF jars are a week away from fruiting, so i am learning the steps, i just wanted to study a bulk for a couple of weeks and start a bulk because it looks better and it seems you get a HELL of alot more.
im not going out today or anything after i just got the "ok" to go ahead with the 3 teks i posted and asked if it would work, im going to study them and study the correct procedures, etc etc..
and to be honest, i see alot more people posting about failed PF tek BRF jars contams than i do see bulks failing on here (in my short time here) i think if i do everything 100% as the teks say, and make sure i dont skip a step, i dont see why i couldnt succeed....
I read the thread and thought you had never done a single grow. Thats the only reason I was upset about it. I only did a single pf before going bulk. This was my whole burr up the ass through all of these posts.
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Re: wanting to start a monotub, can someone link me to a tek as detailed as the BF tek ones? [Re: darkliight]
#16445897 - 06/27/12 03:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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" and to be honest, i see alot more people posting about failed PF tek BRF jars contams than i do see bulks failing on here (in my short time here) i think if i do everything 100% as the teks say, and make sure i dont skip a step, i dont see why i couldnt succeed...."
This is bc most noobs do the pf tek and therefore they get done more therefore more contams . But you have the same chances if not more to get contams with bulk .. good luck!!
Edited by SimpleFarmer (06/27/12 03:11 PM)
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