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Invisiblehoushroom
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Cool mist output
    #1644147 - 06/19/03 11:04 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I just got a cool mist with a design like this one from wal mart.  I used duct tape to seal up the output and rigged a 5/8 inch hose thats like 3 feet long or so.  When I turn it on air seeps out exteremely slowly.  I also let it run overnight in a 5 gallon tupperware container and there was no humidity and no condensation on the walls or in the hose.  Am I doing something wrong?       


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: houshroom]
    #1644159 - 06/19/03 11:11 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

something's not right :frown: 


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: houshroom]
    #1644162 - 06/19/03 11:12 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure how good a design that is... I would return it, go to CVS or something and get one that looks like this:

vick's cool mist


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: kukusz]
    #1644251 - 06/19/03 11:42 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I think I figured out the problem. This is an evaporative humidifier that fans air through a filter. The humidity in my area has been above 60% so whats probably happening is there is too much water already in the air for the filter to naturally give off vapor. It'll probably take something extra like heat to get more humidity.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: houshroom]
    #1666195 - 06/27/03 02:17 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Cool mist output [Re: frizzed]
    #1666326 - 06/27/03 03:04 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You want a COOL MIST, not an ultrasonic!


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1667129 - 06/27/03 01:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

whats the diference between coolmist and ultrasonic?



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Re: Cool mist output [Re: frizzed]
    #1667156 - 06/27/03 01:19 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

ya you want the vick's cool mist man but that link to up there to the vick's cool mist isn't the right one either,i'm at work right now if by the time i get home you don't have a good picture of what you need i'll post one up here for you.i found mine k-mart.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: charvo]
    #1667210 - 06/27/03 01:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Cool mist output [Re: AnimaAnimus]
    #1667246 - 06/27/03 01:54 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

yup thats the one man i reconmend it,they work great.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: charvo]
    #1667670 - 06/27/03 07:01 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Hey just cuz you use a different one don't mean you should knock the other one... My friend uses one really similar to as in the link and it's just fine, it's the one pictured in a number of teks.

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Re: Cool mist output [Re: kukusz]
    #1668240 - 06/28/03 12:15 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Nah, you need the one in the 2nd ebay picture, that guy is right, the first cool mist mentioned isn't the one you want.. the output isn't strong enough and I don't believe it has a filter, and if it does it's a shitty one.. you have to have the air going into the terrerium filtered well.

Also, that light on your terrerium is floresent I hope, if it's not you're wasting time and energy.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1668651 - 06/28/03 05:00 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

my friend uses an ultrasonic, but he uses it in a 4 tier greenhouse like the one over at http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=Forum2&Number=1529018&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1&vc=&PHPSESSID=

He has it on a timer for every 6 hours on a low-medium setting. That provides plenty of humidity. 96% RH on top, and 89% on the bottom


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: m0rb]
    #1668932 - 06/28/03 09:19 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

lol - why are you wasting time and energy if I don't have a fluorocent light? Because the type of light makes a difference, right?

light experiment


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: kukusz]
    #1669226 - 06/28/03 12:52 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Would there be a problem with running a hose from your cool mist that has a bigger inner diameter of 1"?


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: thrice]
    #1670776 - 06/29/03 03:46 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Okay - noob question time - I understand that there is/are output(s) from the humidifer, going into the the terrarium. What exactly is coming in? Water vapor? Or drops of water that have condensed inside the tube?

Also, if there is an input into the terrarium, where is the terrarium's output?

When drilling holes for the output on the humidifier, is it solid hard plastic that you have to drill through? Or is it easier than it sounds?


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: neutralizer]
    #1671270 - 06/29/03 12:57 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

1) Yes it is water vapor that is coming in.

2) The terrarium's output is usually small holes drilled/melted along the bottom of the terrarium.

3) My friend takes a 1/4" bolt, sticks it on the burner of his oven and heats it for 2 minutes, and uses that to melt any size hole in either the terrarium or the humidifier (use pliers). For holes larger than 1/4", he burns a hole and then runs the bolt in circles slowly widening the hole until it is of desired size. Reheat the bolt as needed, and make sure you have plenty of air circulation or a vent in the room you are in, burnt plastic is not very healthy.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: Snobrdr311]
    #1671349 - 06/29/03 01:41 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Ultrasonic is a cool mist.
Least mine is, very cool and wet


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: SafeHaven]
    #1671409 - 06/29/03 02:20 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Ultrasonic is not a cool mist. Different technology used to create water vapor. Just because it emits a cool mist does not mean it is one.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: kukusz]
    #1673762 - 06/30/03 12:46 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

why is ultrasonic bad?

why would one want coolmist and not ultrasonic?


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: frizzed]
    #1673855 - 06/30/03 01:36 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

ultrasonic is not necessarily bad, it just provides too much moisture for most setups. Also, coolmist blows the vapor water out, so you also get good air circulation. Ultrasonic kind of seep the vapor out in a fog.

With an ultrasonic, timer is almost always required, or at least extremely careful management to prevent over saturation. With a cool mist you can be a little more sloppy and you also don't need to fan with the proper setup to allow for air circulation. For instance, putting small holes in the bottom of the terrarium.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: kukusz]
    #1674046 - 06/30/03 03:22 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

super, thanks for the response.

so if they dont really blow hard then if you used a length of tube in a spiral to the fruiting chamber wouldnt that give you good low level gas exchange and humidity too?

or is there NO gas exchange?


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: frizzed]
    #1674400 - 06/30/03 05:56 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You mean with the ultrasonic? I think that the gas exchange is limited with a ultrasonic to the point of requiring some other form of gas exchange, even if you pipe it in. Maybe piping the vapor in at the top and having a very airtight lid AND having holes along the bottom of the terrarium would allow for sufficient gas exchange.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: kukusz]
    #1675020 - 06/30/03 10:02 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i have used both cool mist and ultrasonic. Cool mist does indeed put out more air. right now i use an ultrasonic. i lowered the mist output by putting in another potentiometer, 0 to 10k, and it makes less than half the fog with the same amount of air. Also, my chamber has a perlite floor and small fan that turns on for 15 min twice every hour. I don't use the perlite/fan until pinheads start to form though.


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Re: Cool mist output [Re: frizzed]
    #1675147 - 06/30/03 10:39 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

mines says ultrasonic cool mist i get a few of them so i know it says ultrasonic cool mist



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