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Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops
    #1642220 - 06/18/03 02:09 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops
by Reverend Damuzi (16 Jun, 2003) Pot-smoking protest planned for June 19 at Toronto Police Station

http://www.cannabisculture.ca/articles/2973.html

Marc Emery, publisher of Cannabis Culture Magazine, invites Ontario residents to join him in protest on the sidewalk in front of the Toronto Police Department at 40 College Street West, where he will defiantly smoke joints next Thursday, June 19 at 4:20 pm.

"We want the people of Ontario to know that they can smoke pot anywhere, even in front of police should they want to," said Emery.

He points to inconsistencies between the decisions of the courts (CC online, Marijuana legal in Ontario) and the actions of cops still high on enforcement. On May 16, the Ontario Supreme Court ruled that the province's laws against pot possession were invalid, and on June 2 an Ontario provincial court dismissed 90 cases of marijuana possession charges in the space of 22 minutes.

"Now, Toronto police say that they won't charge anyone for pot, but they will still take it away from you," said Emery. "How can they take it away if there are no laws against possessing it? I'm certainly not going to give them my pot. They'll have to take it by force, but they can't do that without arresting or charging someone, and there is no law to arrest or charge anyone with."


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: pattern]
    #1642284 - 06/18/03 02:36 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Marcs a real canadian hero...who threatens to turn in customers of his whom he doesn't like.
His seeds have been rumored to be knockoffs, and fakes...

They'll take away his pot through force, throw him in jail for awhile, and confuse the facts of the inccident so that nothing happens to the cops, or emery.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: pattern]
    #1642844 - 06/18/03 06:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Click here to see a Real Video file of Marc talking about
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The guy is awesome.




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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Learyfan]
    #1642886 - 06/18/03 07:00 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

The man is a showboating capatalist asshole.

Nothing more.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Learyfan]
    #1642888 - 06/18/03 07:00 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I hope he gets an awesome turnout tomorrow (Thursday). That would really send out a strong signal against recriminalization. I also hope people stay mellow, but if they smoke enough, that shouldn't be an issue.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Cornholio]
    #1642927 - 06/18/03 07:14 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

If anything he'll increase the chances of recriminalization.

Benefiting at other people's expense is his business plan.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1642948 - 06/18/03 07:23 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

what a dumbass! He is going to get it recriminilized. This is deffinitly not the way to go about it. I'm sure he has a behind the scenes financial agenda. If it becomes legal prices will drop. The more illegal the higher the prices.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: hotrod]
    #1642987 - 06/18/03 07:43 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

He does have a point. If you have a right to own something,what gives the cops the right to deny you of your property?


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: hotrod]
    #1644025 - 06/19/03 10:10 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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hotrod said:
what a dumbass! He is going to get it recriminilized. This is deffinitly not the way to go about it. I'm sure he has a behind the scenes financial agenda. If it becomes legal prices will drop. The more illegal the higher the prices.




Thats BS man. Marc has done so much great stuff for pot legalization and rights and such, take some time to learn instead of judging him like that. It is going to be recriminalized as soon as they can anyways, so if anyhting it's a good thing.



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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: barfightlard]
    #1645480 - 06/19/03 06:18 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Man I hate to break it to you, but every thing he's done has been just to promote his business. He's no hero, just a shrewd businessman.

He's no Ed Rosenthal.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1645497 - 06/19/03 06:24 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Baby_Hitler said:
Man I hate to break it to you, but every thing he's done has been just to promote his business. He's no hero, just a shrewd businessman




What leads you to this consensus?
I genuinely want to know, as most of what i know of him are that his strains are killer and hes pro pot,...

Man are his strains killer...


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1645517 - 06/19/03 06:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I dont agree with what he's doing. Its a bad idea to piss off the law. He should deal with cops taking his, and other peoples pot legally. The cops are now *stealing* from him. He could just sue them or press charges, complaints, w/e you do in canada :wink:


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1645527 - 06/19/03 06:33 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I don't believe he has any strains of his own. Most of his stuff is f2 knockoffs of other people's work.

There are a few people on overgrow that have worked for him. They insist that he is a shady businessman who has threatened to Narc people out when they hassled him after he screwed them on business deals. THey also claim that whenever he is out of some strains he will send random bagseed in it's place, and it's generally understood that the charges as much as or more for his F2 knockoffs than what you can get F1s for from the breeder, and their distributors.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: barfightlard]
    #1646949 - 06/20/03 03:07 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I agree. I don't think it will hurt pot at all, but simply force people to discuss it more. Looks like the turnout wasn't that big, if this article is correct.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1646996 - 06/20/03 03:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Link

Nark Emery sez:

"First of all, we are not losing customers at all. We have never had so much interest in the seeds we sell. Any problems experienced can be dealt with if the complainants stay polite, but once they become abusive or begin posting heated, crazed rhetoric, then we terminate any interest in dealing with that person. I find this abusive behaviour unfathomable considering we have their address and pertinent details of what they are doing but somehow feel they can abuse us and provoke us. I wouldn't be doing that to anyone I had sent written proof to that I was growing marijuana/requesting marijuana seeds."


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Cornholio]
    #1647049 - 06/20/03 03:41 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome Thanks for that update!  Now I wish I lived in Ottawa again!  :grin: 


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1648020 - 06/20/03 02:04 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Unfuckingbeleivable!!! The fact that he would say that shows he is shit....i would not buy form him. I will tell my friend who grows, and book mark this site to show it to him.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Cornholio]
    #1648253 - 06/20/03 03:21 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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I agree. I don't think it will hurt pot at all, but simply force people to discuss it more. Looks like the turnout wasn't that big, if this article is correct.



It doesn't work, atleast not for me...
I've been having bad luck w/ links lately.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: DailyPot]
    #1648333 - 06/20/03 03:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Works for me...

Man emery is dumb as shit...
""With SARS and all the related difficulties we've had in Ontario, this is the ideal (solution) to bring hundreds of thousands of tourists here, for the fine Canadian marijuana that circulates throughout Ontario."

yeah!, LETS bring hundreds of thousands of tourists to toronto when SARS has a possibility to be there. :tongue2:


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: DailyPot]
    #1648337 - 06/20/03 03:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Toronto police ignore pot party in front of HQ



Dozens of green-wearing, pot-smoking revellers partied outside Toronto's downtown police headquarters today, smoking their joints, bongs and pipes without being harassed by a single police officer.
Streams of sweet smoke wafted through the air as cannabis crusader Marc Emery, a Vancouver resident, handed out joints to fellow pot enthusiasts and urged them to exercise "the lawful right to possess marijuana."

"Marijuana is legal in Ontario to possess and it is permissible under law to smoke marijuana anywhere it is permissible to smoke tobacco in Ontario," Emery said, calling the province the freest jurisdiction in the western world, with recent court challenges of pot laws and the acceptance of gay marriages.

Although the event was right on police property, no uniformed officers were seen among the crowd. Inside headquarters, police seemed disinterested with the party and no officers were made available to comment.

"I trust if the police wanted to apprehend our pot they could've done so," Emery said of the not-so-subtle challenge to police.

"I thought the most provocative place to smoke marijuana with others would be right in front of (police Chief Julian Fantino's) doorstep."

Police organizations in Ontario have said they will not lay charges for possession of marijuana under 30 grams until the country's muddled pot laws are clarified.

The Ontario Court of Appeal ruled on June 10 that it would not overturn a precedent-setting Ontario Superior Court decision that cleared a teenager of marijuana possession charges.

The Superior Court judge ruled there is no current ban on pot possession in Ontario since the federal government failed to comply with a July 2000 court order to create a new law dealing with the drug.

The Liberal government hopes to have its new marijuana legislation passed by the end of the year. Under the proposed new laws, possession of up to 15 grams of pot - enough to roll about 15 to 20 joints - would be a minor offence that carries no criminal record.

In the meantime, Emery said the province, and more specifically Toronto, might get an infusion of tourism from travellers wanting to smoke up without fear of a criminal record.

"(Toronto) is the coolest place in the world to be right now, the most enlightened and the most advanced place to be," Emery said. "With SARS and all the related difficulties we've had in Ontario, this is the ideal (solution) to bring hundreds of thousands of tourists here, for the fine Canadian marijuana that circulates throughout Ontario.

"Tell everybody around the world to come to Ontario; celebrate a unique freedom available only here in Ontario."

Emery is recognized in the marijuana community as a leading activist in trying to get the drug legalized. He also runs the B.C. Marijuana Party, Cannabis Culture magazine, a store that sells marijuana seeds, and once ran for mayor of Vancouver.

Alison Myrden, a government-licensed medicinal marijuana user, said she attended the rally not to party, but to thank Emery for his work that helped her get a legal exemption to smoke and treat her multiple sclerosis.

"For me it's not a choice - it's a matter of quality of life because if I don't have marijuana then I can't get out of bed," she said. "I can't stop throwing up and I can't get out of a wheelchair."


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1649226 - 06/20/03 08:09 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, thats amazing. It shouldn't be but thats what I'm used to. But its great, still dont think he should have done that but its still great. I wonder why news like this doesn't get around.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: DailyPot]
    #1651655 - 06/21/03 07:27 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

He's a prick


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Notnecstoned]
    #1655794 - 06/23/03 02:37 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Why do you say that? Did you read his antics on overgrow?...or get ripped off on his seeds?...or just get out of jail? :grin:


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1656065 - 06/23/03 04:30 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

That link I gave is from cannabisculture.com, his own website, and that post was made by him.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1656088 - 06/23/03 04:38 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

So has anyone showed it to high times or other competition? I hate shit like that, and personally would not rat out my worst enemy, let alone a rude customer who is giving me money anyway.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1656606 - 06/23/03 08:24 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

No shit, what's up with that.

Although I still think he's a good guy, this has changed my opinion of him.





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    #1656645 - 06/23/03 08:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

He's

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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1656733 - 06/23/03 09:29 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

There are worse people in the world than Marc Emery, he is selfish but he also funds potTV, a free website.  I dont see what the big deal is here, he's a business man not a saint. :wink:


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1656767 - 06/23/03 09:43 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Regardless of his motivation, he's fighting against pot prohibition.

That's a good thing.




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    #1656771 - 06/23/03 09:44 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Learyfan]
    #1656779 - 06/23/03 09:47 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

A also agree. Fighting for the cause MUST be better than staying quiet, because if no one speaks up, nothing can POSSIBLY happen!


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    #1660227 - 06/25/03 02:14 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Baby_Hitler said:
The man is a showboating capatalist asshole.

Nothing more.




I've been following Marc Emery for a few years now and you obviously do not know a single thing about him.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Zahid]
    #1661044 - 06/25/03 12:36 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

It seemed pretty obvious from that link where marc threatens to rat out people he sells to if they're not nice to him...

Why do think otherwise? :confused:


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1661977 - 06/25/03 06:26 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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First of all, we are not losing customers at all. We have never had so much interest in the seeds we sell. Any problems experienced can be dealt with if the complainants stay polite, but once they become abusive or begin posting heated, crazed rhetoric, then we terminate any interest in dealing with that person. I find this abusive behaviour unfathomable considering we have their address and pertinent details of what they are doing but somehow feel they can abuse us and provoke us. I wouldn't be doing that to anyone I had sent written proof to that I was growing marijuana/requesting marijuana seeds.

Fortunately, we have never had to resort to dealing severly with miscreants who don't understand their self-incrimination.

Marc Emery




Sure he talks some trash but has he ratted anyone out? If not then who gives a shit, really.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: pattern]
    #1662103 - 06/25/03 06:58 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Actually. There have been several busts where he is the main suspect as the rat.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #4700583 - 09/23/05 03:08 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Where can one read about this? From all I have read, any busts were due to the DEA's wiretaps and such.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #4700609 - 09/23/05 03:11 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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It seemed pretty obvious from that link where marc threatens to rat out people he sells to if they're not nice to him...

Why do think otherwise? :confused: 




Well it's already well known that the DEA had set up a sting operation with some blue letters they sent to Marc's customers. It looks like the DEA was monitoring the in/out going mail to his seed bsuiness for a few months this year. Many customers from this time period have reported geting blue letters asking them to send $100 via Western Union and next an email- This would entrap people ordering from the United States.

If Marc was any kind of narc I would not think they would have to stoop to the sting case.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: Azmodeus]
    #4700727 - 09/23/05 03:32 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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Marcs a real canadian hero...who threatens to turn in customers of his whom he doesn't like.
His seeds have been rumored to be knockoffs, and fakes...




a buddy of mine ordered seeds from him a few years ago... the seeds were treated with colchecine, and not as advertised... my buddy asked for a refund, and only got pissy responses...


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4700741 - 09/23/05 03:35 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

old thread, but interesting.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
    #4701105 - 09/23/05 05:07 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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old thread, but interesting.



Oops! My bad for bumpng this thread. I thought it was about the very recent news about the dea raid on Marc and the USA's attempt at geting Marc and his close friends extradited to the States to face ten years to life in prision for selling seeds.

For anyone interested you can read the latest on Marc's site here: http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=extradite

I started the thread over there about the lack of American media coverage, and it's already got over 1000 reads.


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Re: Marc Emery stands up to pot-snatching cops [Re: MikeOLogical]
    #4701123 - 09/23/05 05:10 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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MikeOLogical said:
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Azmodeus said:
Marcs a real canadian hero...who threatens to turn in customers of his whom he doesn't like.
His seeds have been rumored to be knockoffs, and fakes...




a buddy of mine ordered seeds from him a few years ago... the seeds were treated with colchecine, and not as advertised... my buddy asked for a refund, and only got pissy responses...



Ya, a friend of mine said Marc Emery's bust was karma getting him back for selling bunk seeds.


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