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Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help!
    #16422037 - 06/22/12 06:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I posted this in the pub and was directed here...


So i got some bad news today...
I was at work and i got a call from some weird number. I answered and it was a detective from the local narcotics enforcement. I told him i would call him back when i get outta work.
I immediately left work to clean my house of drugs and drug accessories.

I got outta work earlier and gave the man a call. He wanted me to become a narc. I pretty much told him that isn't happening and to fuck off.
Either way, he told me they got a controlled buy on me. He wouldn't tell me what substance or how much. I wanted to get this over with and asked the man where i turn myself in at. He said that as of now, i DO NOT have a warrant for my arrest :confused:
He said when Monday rolls around to check back in with him.

So...I dont know what the fuck to do. If they had a controlled buy on me, shouldn't i have a warrant?
Ive never been in trouble before in my life. I just wanna get this shit over with.
Ive got $$ to bail myself out but i still dont know what the fuck is happening.
FYI i just think this is over a bag of weed but i dont know for sure.

If anyone has some legal advise, i would appreciate it very much.
Im meeting with a friend tomorrow who just graduated for Paralegal.
I would just appreciate your input on the matter.


Also, the cop is a fucktard. He pretty much warned me what was coming. I had 3/4 LB at my house that is now at a safe house. I guess i had some good karma for that to happen to me :shrug:


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16422082 - 06/22/12 07:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Encrypt your hard drive. They usually seize computers looking for evidence.

It sounds like the pigs are on to you. Consider moving. They may not want to blow their CI's cover depending how small of a fish you are. If I were you I'd pack up and move to California tonight. Rent a truck and leave. Odds are pretty good that that you'll never be bothered about it again if you get out of their jurisdiction.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #16422093 - 06/22/12 07:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

:strokebeard:

Cali Ho


Not really.

I know some very big fish but most live out of state.
Either way, no way im giving up any names.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16422097 - 06/22/12 07:06 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

How do i encrypt my hard drive?


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16422141 - 06/22/12 07:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.truecrypt.org/

There is no back door. Use a pass phrase you'll remember as a Caesar cipher for security, 30+ characters should be good. Remember it or you'll permanently lose access to your own 'puter and end up having to reformat ...

Seriously consider moving quick. If you did something to get indicted over and they can prove it then you're not safe. I have heard of people getting out of these low level felonies by moving quickly. They almost certainly won't want to mess around with you across the country when there are local fish in the shootin' barrel.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #16422177 - 06/22/12 07:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I cant just move away. I wish i could but i cant.
Personally, i think this is over a 8th of weed. Id rather take my punishment and get it over with.
The reason im posting all this here is because something seems fishy.
Why would they call me to ask if i wanna become a narc? It pretty much tipped me off. I cleaned my house immediately after the phone call. Had they just kicked my door in, i would not be here typing this. I would be sitting in county for 3/4 LB of nugs and 400 hits of LSD.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16422199 - 06/22/12 07:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe that's proof that God loves you. If it's over an eighth of weed they probably wouldn't want to blow the CIs cover over that case. What jurisdiction are you in. In Kentucky a roach in your ashtray is still a felony and no joking around about.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #16422215 - 06/22/12 07:28 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well i live in MI and we are a med state. I do not have nor want my card.
I live in BFE (Bum Fuck Egypt) so the cops really have nothing better to do.
I was once pulled over in a 7/11 parking lot. I had a dude in my car who was about to go to prison for selling Heroin. Within 2 minutes, every cop in my town surrounded 7/11 like it was a hostage crisis.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16422241 - 06/22/12 07:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Oh. I was thinking you were about to get indicted or face a felony charge. A little herb in MI is not a big deal. No worries then unless they were out to get you and are falsifying their evidence.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #16422282 - 06/22/12 07:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well im not a cardholder and i think this is over selling weed.
My county is against Med Marijuana. It might be a felony charge. The :cop: wouldn't tell me what my charge was other than a "controlled buy".
It very well might be a felony. Or, he could be bullshitting me and trying to scare me into talking.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16422396 - 06/22/12 08:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Are you sure it wasn't a prank call, or someone testing you?  I have never heard of police operating in this way.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16422466 - 06/22/12 08:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I dont know man. It sounded like a :cop:
But then again, i dont know for sure.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16423064 - 06/22/12 10:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

never heard of cops doing this either. if cops want ppl to turn informant they will bust them and during interrogation ask them to buy from their supplier. immediately after this happens they will bust them.

also for amounts less than felonies they will generally let people walk, since nobody will snitch if they are facing 40 hours of community service and a year probation. even for felony amounts they will let people walk depending on how desperate they are to look like they are doing something.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16424331 - 06/23/12 05:12 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I've never heard of cops trying to flip someone on the phone...That makes no sense whatsoever...

It might have been a cop just throwing something out there in the hopes that you might bite...If he has a stronger case, or a case that was worth pursing against you, he would have hauled you in to talk to you about it.

Having said that, your real problem is the "controlled buy."  They may or may not have one.  If they do, you'll just have to sweat it out.  As others have said, they're not likely to burn a UC over a misdemeanor or minor felony like this...but they might keep it in the file and arrest/charge you in a year when they're done building the case against their real target.  I see that a lot.

Since you have no way of knowing if/when the hammer might fall, you're going to have to keep a clean house for at least a year...or risk doing serious time if/when the door is busted down.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Enlil]
    #16424645 - 06/23/12 08:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah my plan is to keep my house clean from now on.
Ive seriously cut back on smoking in the last few months. Im just gonna quit for good now.
My thought is, if they have a controlled buy on me, why wouldn't a warrant be issued for my arrest?
It sounds like the :cop: was just trying to scare me into submission because he didn't have shit on me to kick my door down and arrest me.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16424674 - 06/23/12 08:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I'm with Alan on this one, and Enlil. Cops don't call you, they hassle you in person.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Doc_T]
    #16424696 - 06/23/12 08:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

In the past yr or two....I have known people that got busted with personal sacks of weed in illinois.....The state police call them and ask if they want to get the charge off their record.....Seriously asking people caught with a few grams of weed if they will flip......:lmafo:


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: jboredone]
    #16424805 - 06/23/12 09:37 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

So i still have this number for the :cop: that called me.
Does anyone know of any legit sites to backtrack this number?


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16424998 - 06/23/12 10:33 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

If it's LEO, no way to know.
Might even be a one-time-use deal where every potential informant gets a different line.
so even if you call from a pay phone they know it's you. :tinfoil:


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Doc_T]
    #16425073 - 06/23/12 10:49 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Doc_T said:
I'm with Alan on this one, and Enlil. Cops don't call you, they hassle you in person.



bingo .. after breaking into a house with some buds which a few got way too drunk and arrested on the same day. as far as i know me and another kid got away out of 10 people total.

smart mexican lil negro the next day after the deed was done me and the kid knew shit was about to get real.

our plan was this.  that day we did not attend school because both of us were out tothe mall.

turns out someone snitched on me i wake up one day to 2 bbc ( big black cops) knocking on mydoor :laugh: i opened it without looking in the phole so it was a nice surprise.


i told them nothing kept denying everything and was never charged.

then they called me once or twice but i never bite the snake

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Kinko]
    #16425727 - 06/23/12 01:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Got a new cell number today.
Destroyed my old phone.
I talked to my Paralegal friend and to her, it sounds like they dont have shit on me.
She thinks that maybe the :cop:s got my plate number leaving a house they were watching. Called me up to see if id bite the worm they cast out.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16425988 - 06/23/12 02:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

For a bag you might get some fines and probation. I was caught in Il with 12plants and couple pounds of shake,which they considered smokable, and I got 18 month probation and some fuckn rehab. If you dont have kids, lay low, nothing heavy in your possession and dont answer your phone unless you know the number. If they wanted you, youd be in jail. They have nothing significant. Probably just saw you at the dealer's. They have shit tons of resources to find your number. Again, if they had anything real ( AKA something they knew they could win in court) they would pursue or watch you longer and sting you WITHOUT forwarning. COPS ARE LIARS. BIG FAT STINKING LIARS. EVERYONE OF THEM. PERIOD!


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16426199 - 06/23/12 03:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

>She thinks that maybe the :cop:s got my plate number leaving a house they were watching. Called me up to see if id bite the worm they cast out.

Thats what it sounds like to me too. If they actually had you on anything, particularly a felony, they will not do that. They will haul you in, get you scared, and then offer to let you walk if you flip. They would probably do the old good cop bad cop. Yes, they still do that one. One is fire breathing and determined that you will do the max time. The other thinks you deserve a break and all you have to do to prove it is... you guessed it.

This cop is casting a wide net probably got your plate or someone fingered you but the controlled buy is most likely a bluff. If he tries it on 10 suspects maybe one or two will fall for it.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #16429551 - 06/24/12 06:50 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Not to throw a turd in the punch bowl, but something similar happened to a close friend. They were awaiting lab results from the paper (LSD) , the species of mushroom and indeed that it was marijuana that was the green leafy substance, (noshit). They tried to offer him deals to snitch based on what they knew the lab results would be. Lab results still aren't back and he has no charges.....yet.

These were simply possession beefs. Some cops just don't have their shit together, then some are robocop.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16430354 - 06/24/12 11:19 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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So i still have this number for the :cop: that called me.
Does anyone know of any legit sites to backtrack this number?




Hmmm...is it possible that one of your associates was popped? Maybe they went through his phone and found an ambiguous name and were trying to fish out your identity or something?

Did you make a habit of communicating business via text messages?




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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: numonkei] * 1
    #16430477 - 06/24/12 11:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

This whole story sounds a bit fishy for it to have been a cop, but it sure does sound like a good way for a wholesaler to determine if he can trust his dealers

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    #16430514 - 06/24/12 12:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That is a possibility. Seems like the level of precaution used by long-term successes in wholesale would make blind surveillance a more effective means of determining trustworthiness. Again, this would be raising the suspicion all around, as it clearly has to the OP in this case.




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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: numonkei]
    #16430533 - 06/24/12 12:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

If they had a controlled buy on you, they would arrest you, and then try to flip you in exchange for dropping charges, atleast thats what they did when I got busted. Told em they could go fuck themselves... If they did have a controlled buy on you you'd know what it was for amount etc because they'd be locking you up. They may however have evidence on you and try to get more by watching you for a bit, so I'd lay real low and make sure your house is squeaky clean in case they come with a warrant. Hope it all works out for you legal problems suck.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: numonkei]
    #16431667 - 06/24/12 04:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah my house is clean as of yesterday. Im going to check out some lawyers tomorrow though ive never had to see one and i dont know what to expect.
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So i still have this number for the :cop: that called me.
Does anyone know of any legit sites to backtrack this number?




Hmmm...is it possible that one of your associates was popped? Maybe they went through his phone and found an ambiguous name and were trying to fish out your identity or something?

Did you make a habit of communicating business via text messages?




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I didn't make a habit of texting but yes i have done that recently. I know, i fucked up.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16431779 - 06/24/12 04:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I personally don't think it was a cop but I could be wrong.

I've never heard of a cop calling someone over a potential felony. If they had a controlled buy, they could easily get a warrant and just bust down your door if they wanted. I don't think they like to tip people off that they have your name down.... coming in unannounced is something that would either have you in jail or him getting names... not over the phone.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Uzziel]
    #16431879 - 06/24/12 04:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The narcotics team in my area are ruthless. They will do whatever they can to get the things they want.
Like i said, i think it was a real officer just trying to scare me into thinking i was actually in trouble to see if i would take the bait.
Im going in for a free consultation tomorrow for a lawyer. Hopefully they will straighten things out and it wont cost me too much in the long run.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16431964 - 06/24/12 05:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Cops are allowed to lie to you in an attempt to get you to divulge information. Do not incriminate yourself. The best way to do this is to take the 5th and not talk to the guy at all. He could be making up the thing about the controlled buy to scare you into admitting things that he you think he already knows, even though he really has no evidence.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LSDylan]
    #16436585 - 06/25/12 04:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16437449 - 06/25/12 07:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I saw your post before it was deleted. That's fucked up, dude. Good luck. You might try PMing Enlil.

Best of luck.
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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: nooneman]
    #16442262 - 06/26/12 07:13 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, thats too bad. It still sounds crazy as hell. I've never heard of cops operating that way.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Stonehenge]
    #16442632 - 06/26/12 08:31 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The narcotics team in my area works in strange ways.
I now have a lawyer to represent me.
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    #16442829 - 06/26/12 09:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What happened??


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    #16442859 - 06/26/12 09:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Are you sure it wasn't a prank call, or someone testing you?  I have never heard of police operating in this way.



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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: ch1ck3n.s0up]
    #16442897 - 06/26/12 09:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

you should inform us so we all know what LEA are doing these days, in case anybody else finds themselves in your position.

this is very strange indeed :hmm:

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    #16443030 - 06/26/12 09:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Good luck man. Keep us posted with what you can afford to divulge.


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    #16443058 - 06/26/12 09:52 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well as much as i want to tell everybody everything, i cant in order to protect myself and my case.
I am being accused of 3 counts of Delivery/Manufacture of mushrooms. All 3 are 7 year felonies.
1 count of maintaining a drug house which was my car. That is a 2 year misdemeanor.
My car was seized wrongfully and i should be getting that back fairly soon.
Though i am going to sell it because it is now marked.

Im looking to do 4-6 months in county jail and 2 years probation. Though, i do not know for sure yet.
My hope is to just get a assload of probation outta the situation.

I now know that i was narc'd out by a CI and i know who it is.
I called that motherfucking scumbag every name i could think of.
The whole time he was trying to get me to go his route and become a narc.
I told the fuckstain to get bent.
Im not gonna drag anyone else into my situation like he did to me.


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    #16443094 - 06/26/12 10:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Hey easy wind. Love that tune. Yup sending good vibes your way. Don't ever roll on anyone whatever u do. Good way to get killed. Controlled buy?? Is there an "uncontrolled buy" ?? Man, if you don't have the herb anymore, they're gonna have a tough time pinning it on you. Chances are , they want you to help them get whoever you bought it from. Give THEM a call and warn em to clean shit up. P.s. never trust a cop. Fuck the police!  Peace & blessings to you

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    #16443136 - 06/26/12 10:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Oh trust me, shit has been dealt with on my part. My house is spotless of any sort of drug past or present.
This was for mushrooms not herb.
Like i said, being a narc was never an option for me. I just wanna take my punishment and get it over with.
The thing is, they know i am in the know with entheogenic substances. It makes me feel good inside that they are probably pissed off that they couldn't climb any higher on that ladder. My lawyer even told me he wouldn't work for me if i was a narc.

I just wanna take my punishment and get on with my life.
I had plans for doing a whole summer tour next year. That is now out of the question. Im just gonna work my ass off to save up money until i go to jail. 

That being said, the narc is still in trouble. He better hope he doesn't share a cellblock with me.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16443165 - 06/26/12 10:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Holy crap dude! Arghh. I didn't read the last page. Guess you started this thread a while back. How'd they catch on to you. I've often wondered if this site was safe per se

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    #16443181 - 06/26/12 10:22 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They caught me because a "friend" turned narc and made 3 controlled buys on me in an attempt to save his own ass.
I dont wanna go into case details just because i dont want to risk my ass too much.
I just want my fellow shroomerites to see what is happening to me and be careful. If it can happen to me, it can happen to you.
Im just trying to look out for others here.
Yes im in a shitty situation but im trying to keep a positive head and look at this in a positive manner.
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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #16443185 - 06/26/12 10:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

My dude recently got busted for manufacture/distribution of mushrooms. The cops like it cuz its exotic. You weren't in the paper were you?

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    #16443207 - 06/26/12 10:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

No not yet, probably when my case is over and done with.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16443246 - 06/26/12 10:43 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

2 things) 1) hopefully posting shit on this site is relatively safe. As well as orcdering spores.
2) I don't sell, or talk to people so hopefully that helps.
Id rather stay poor and be poor/free from prison

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    #16443272 - 06/26/12 10:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Just as a data point and because I'm curious how close were you to the person who rolled on you? I hope it wasn't very close though I guess it doesn't matter in your current situation.

I wish you the best of luck, and I hope that since you cleaned house your lawyer manages to get some of the charges dropped and a decent deal for you.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: naum]
    #16443758 - 06/27/12 01:52 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

best of luck to you man. as long as you do the right thing you will always be taken care of by god, the universe, karma, whatever you believe in. sucks you had to have something like this happen but we have all had our fair share of shit to deal with.

just remember the two rules: keep your mouth shut, and never rat on your friends. unfortunately your friend wasnt aware of these rules, but glad to hear you are abiding by them.

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    #16445311 - 06/27/12 01:11 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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    #16447260 - 06/27/12 08:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ill be here no matter what. Im trying to take care of this in a responsible manner. I posted my situation in a legal forum and i was told to flee the country. Fuck that. I just want to get this over with and put it behind me so i can continue to live my life.
I am taking a substance abuse assessment to look good to the judge.
Ive got many older folk including my employer for the past 5 years, willing to take the stand and vouch that i am a good person.
I appreciate all the good luck wishes. It really does mean something to me. From the bottom of my heart, i thank you all.

I am not willing to work for the narcotics team at all. I am manning up to the plate here because the latter stops at me.
I am a firm believer in Karma. I must have pissed her off somehow to get this but i do believe she will bite the narc even harder.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D] * 1
    #16447848 - 06/27/12 09:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hopefully that snitch gets what's coming to him.
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    #16447930 - 06/27/12 09:45 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16449478 - 06/28/12 05:18 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I removed your above post as I am sure you didn't want those feelings possibly being used against you later.

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I am being accused of 3 counts of Delivery/Manufacture of mushrooms. All 3 are 7 year felonies.  1 count of maintaining a drug house which was my car. That is a 2 year misdemeanor.




When I was a teen, I was charged as an adult with 3 felonies (7 years each) and 5 misdemeanors (1 year each) for a non-drug related stunt.  It was the first time I had been in trouble with the law and I had a good lawyer.  I ended up with a three year suspended sentence, no probation, no community service, and no fine.  After three years without getting in trouble I was able to expunge my record.


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    #16450651 - 06/28/12 11:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

That was a goooood attorney Seuss. Bet it cost alot.

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    #16454746 - 06/29/12 05:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> That was a goooood attorney Seuss. Bet it cost alot.

It was a long time ago, back before the justice system turned into a money making machine for the government.  I was a "good kid" that was college bound, had a part time job (in a library), had (on my own) several hundred hours of volunteer community service (for the Red Cross), etc... and it was a first offense.  The lawyer was a prosecutor that had turned to private practice.  It wasn't cheap, but it cost less than a DUI at the time.  Basically, they wanted to scare me straight without ruining my life.  It pretty much worked.


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    #16455584 - 06/29/12 11:33 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Not sure if you can see the vets forum (think that is where they all are) but search for my responses to Vandago's posts when he was in trouble. Most of the advice applies here.

I don't know anything about MI laws and definitely not about the judicial system in your area so I can can't comment too much on what you may or may not get in the end.

It is entirely possible for you to get probation out of it but you HAVE to work your ass off to get it. It really comes down to what you are willing to put up with. Some people prefer to plead out to the least amount of jail time they can get without probation on top of that so it is over and done with, a combination of the 2 is most common and involves the least work on your part, and the third option is to work towards pure probation but that usually means a hefty amount of time on the shelf if you mess up and a lot of time, work, effort, on your part.

If you want any chance of getting probation out of this here is what you are going to need to do:

1) Talk to your lawyer, either private or court appointed and let him know your plan. He knows the local juduciary better than you or anyone on here and will know if it is possible.

2) Push the case out as long as humanly possible and push the sentencing out further after that. Have your lawyer talk to the prosecutor and tell them about everything you are doing to better yourself and ask for more time. I pushed my case out almost a year and it saved my ass.

3) Get clean and stay clean. No pot or anything that will show up on a drug test. Find a place in your area that will let you take certified drug tests (drug rehab & bail bonds are the most common places). Take at least 1 drug test on your own at least every 2-3 months, this doesn't include randoms given by the court. Have your attorney save the results showing you are clean.

4) Go to drug counseling. I don't care if you need it, go to it. Preferably something verifiable, not sure if NA will give you documentation that you went since it is anon. Have your attorney save any records. Make sure to "come to a realization that drugs are bad" and that you need to straighten your life out.

5) Get and keep a steady job. Try not to switch jobs if possible and definitely don't get fired. Have your attorney copy your paystubs so there is record of your working x number of hours a week.

6) Take some classes. Doesn't really matter what. Community college, vocational school, any type of certification class (computer, electronic, welding, food safety certification, anything). "Bettering" your life looks amazing to a judge. Even if you don't keep with it after the fact keep it up while your case is going on.

7) Break off ties with any "bad elements" that you may have, at least no ties that can be traced to you. Don't risk going to a drug dealers house even if it is just to hang out. In small towns it may be easy for them to have that under surveillence or have a CI at the house doing a buy when you walk in. I'd avoid using your cell phone to call any of them either. These steps are probably unnecessary but better safe than sorry until its over.

8) When you go into court have everything you are going to say thought out in advance. Wear AT LEAST a shirt and tie if not a suit or blazer. May seem stupid but judges respect that. Speak with proper grammer, keep correct posture, be clean shaven (or well trimmed), and look presentable even if you think it makes you look like a douchebag. Its all about appearances.

9) Have your attorney work out a deal with the prosecutor that gives you the best shot at getting probation. In Ohio 1st and 2nd degree felonies are mandatory jail time, 3rd is neither assumed jail or assumed probation, 4th and 5th are presumed probation. Also in Ohio they have a "pre-sentence investigation" and I would imagine that in MI they have something similar. MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT! That is the MOST IMPORTANT part. That lets you cut a deal for pleading guilty to the charge with the prosecutor but leaves sentencing up to the judge after the court investigates how much you have changed or bettered your life, etc. If you do all the shit above and get a PSI, give them all the info you have about everything you've done, give them a nice speech about how much you've changed because of this, and I would almost guarantee probation.

Its really all up to you.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Seuss]
    #16455631 - 06/29/12 11:42 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Like I said before, had 2 class 4 felonies and a class 3 and i just got 2 years prob but got out on good behavior in 18 and some community service and they have been expunged. I spent 3500 and was in court twice. My lawyer was very generous and had alot of money from other cases of mine. In illinois we have a special type of probation through drug court called 1410/710 prob. Not sure if there is something similar where you are at. As always- dont rat, be honest to your lawyer( they dont like suprises in court) and keep clean no matter how hard it is til youve finished all of your requirements for court. The drug eval is a good move. And participate in rehab( if they make you go) they report to the court and builds on your character for the judge.


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    #16455707 - 06/29/12 11:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I had a 1st degree felony that was VERY close to hitting MDO (major drug offender) status here in Ohio. Was also under investigation after the arrest for several more offenses. I did pay a nice chunk for my attorney and the search they did after the arrest to get me investigated on the other charges was "iffy" so they agreed not to charge the others as long as I didn't fuck up anything that court made me do. Managed to get off with 3 years probabtion, got that kicked after I had done 2.

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    #16455939 - 06/29/12 12:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Smush, you clearly know what you are talking about. People should copy and paste your post just in case they need it later. Basically, shuck and jive and act like a little angel. A lawyer may or may not tell you all of that. If its a pd, he/she may just say plead and see what happens.

Keep in mind probation can be very hard particularly with any restrictions included. You may have to put up with an idiotic job and an insufferable boss for far longer than you may think you can stand.

Seuss, nice to see you got scared straight. No more of that nasty pot or shrooms for you. You know its all addictive and will kill you. :wink:


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    #16455990 - 06/29/12 01:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I was both lucky with my case and I also had a very good lawyer when it came to pleading out. I would never have trusted him in a trial but he did what I wanted. If I would have hit MDO status I would have been looking at 10-25 fed time. Not to mention if the other hammer dropped for the shit that I was under investigation for I could have been looking at 20+ pretty easily. I had some major karma stored up at that point to come out as well as I did. Other than trying to work in community service with my full time job my probation was pretty easy, I didn't get any restrictions with it.

It really depends on whats important to you. I spent a fair amount of time in jail before I got my bond lowered to something affordable and I got to talk to a lot of guys in there. Biggest piece of advice, if you can't handle staying straight and making probation work, plead out to pure jail time so you have no risk in the future. I on the other hand had no issues sucking it up and doing what I needed to to make myself look good to the court. I had 5 years - time served on the shelf if I fucked up though so I could have gotten screwed but to me that was easier than doing 2 years in prison.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16457474 - 06/29/12 06:42 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Man this news pisses me off & saddens me. I don't like seeing anyone get in trouble for something that is a personal choice/victimless crime, let alone someone that's true to their heart. It's bullshit. :mad:

You have a good head on your shoulders though, as well as good karma, so hang in there. Things will work out.


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    #16457498 - 06/29/12 06:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

You're a good man bro. Replying from page 3 and will read rest but Fu k that ci. People are so greedy for themselves. It's gonna be he downfall of the world...greed.


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    #16457505 - 06/29/12 06:47 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks man, it really means a lot to hear that from you Dark Star.
Im just trying to look at this positively and get it over with, put it behind me and continue living my life.
Either way, im probably gonna do a little time for my beliefs in Entheogenic substances.


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    #16457549 - 06/29/12 06:57 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I believe in karma too and I'm sure you probably didn't do much to receive it. Who knows but it will come back to that person you know for sure. So glad to hear what your lawyer said about not supporting you if you were a narc. Glad to see not all lawyers are scum looking for some cash from unfortunate souls.

I send along any kind of good vibes my way to you. You've always seemed like an all around good guy from what Ive seen of your posts. I hope you can get very limited time.  That's all I can think to to say.


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    #16457562 - 06/29/12 07:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Either way, im probably gonna do a little time for my beliefs in Entheogenic substances.




I wouldn't count on it.  Work towards getting probation following the advice in Smushroom's post.

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    #16457642 - 06/29/12 07:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah so far im following his and my lawyers advise.
I know people at the local Co-Op/natural food store. Im gonna go and volunteer to do work there. If i have community service that is also where ill be going.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16477515 - 07/03/12 09:24 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I did mine at the animal shelter. I actually enjoyed it. Beeinngs they liked me, I got to mess with the dogs and fix kennels. And, if you are extra lucky like I was, your probation officer will be hot and tell you when you will be dropped ( piss test). I had most of my shit done in the first few months. Id go in, chit chat, and leave. Only had to drop three times and knew when.Major compliance goes a long way to show your not a thug or scum.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16479294 - 07/04/12 08:42 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah so far im following his and my lawyers advise.
I know people at the local Co-Op/natural food store. Im gonna go and volunteer to do work there. If i have community service that is also where ill be going.



There's another strategy you haven't considered. They tried to seize your car. What they want is to rob you more than imprison you or give you a record. I have heard of attorneys negotiating for dropped charged in exchange for forfeiting property and bond moneys. Ask your attorney to approach the prosecutor explaining that you want to leave the state in order to go to college out of state or take an out of state job and make a fresh start. Have your attorney offer your car as a forfeiture in exchange for dismissing charges against you. You have to be as corrupt as the system is if you're forced to work within it's bounds. It's all about money and power. But at this level it's more about money and if your car is worth enough it could work out. Moving away must also be part of the way your attorney approaches with this proposal.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #16479496 - 07/04/12 09:40 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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There's another strategy you haven't considered. They tried to seize your car. What they want is to rob you more than imprison you or give you a record. I have heard of attorneys negotiating for dropped charged in exchange for forfeiting property and bond moneys.





My attorney worked out that exact deal when I was 19.  Saved me from a felony charge.  We put up the money to fight the car seizure (10%), then negotiated that they can keep the car and the money if they don't file the charges.

In retrospect, it was a pretty good deal for me.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16480586 - 07/04/12 01:54 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Good to know.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16480620 - 07/04/12 02:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Most cops are thieves, no doubt about it.

Don't count on the probation officer being a nice guy/gal. From what i've heard most are pricks and will go out of their way to hassle you. Sadists and control freaks are attracted to that sort of job. Some would do it for free just for kicks.


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    #16480628 - 07/04/12 02:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I dont know about that. I still owe 5 grand on the car. I payed 3500 for a lawyer. It sounds like id get fucked even harder if i just gave them my car.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: LySergic D]
    #16481526 - 07/04/12 05:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What a crazy situation. I hope all the best for ya!

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    #16484174 - 07/05/12 07:23 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I dont know about that. I still owe 5 grand on the car. I payed 3500 for a lawyer. It sounds like id get fucked even harder if i just gave them my car.





Not if your lawyer made a deal to have the charges dropped in exchange for the car.  Trading the car for dropped charges is a lot like buying your way out of it, and would be a good deal.

I am not sure if they can seize a car that you don't own though.

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    #16484601 - 07/05/12 09:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I believe he would have to pay for the car outright to obtain the title, then hand it over. Might as well see how much it will cost without the car. My lawyer didnt really consult me on my amount. He simply gave me the low down after talking with the states attorney and said "take it!". If your lawyer thinks they have solid evidence, he will probably instruct you to take whatever  they will give you.Nice thing is that they should give you time to pay it off. I was given 18 monthsto come up with 2800.  I just payed it out of a tax check. I just kept my probee in the loop on what I was doing. She said that if you go too long without making a payment they start to get shitty about it. Youll be OK.


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    #16484612 - 07/05/12 09:55 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

They prob could and just make him pay the rest of the bill.  Not saying they would buy from what I've dealt with as far as accidents and insurance, they could are less and just assume you realized that.  So if insurance makes you pay the rest of a car loan if it's totaled I'm sure the Leos would care less about keeping someone with the bill.  Just not sure how seizures work or read about one.

If it meant staying out jail, even for me it'd be a pretty hard thing to give up(since it's paid off and can't afford another yet) I'd look At the fact I'd be in jail and not able to drive it and have a record and be very limited to jobs. I'd seriously look into what Alan suggested if it's an option.

Another anecdote, my boss told me how he knew this guy who had been through 9 first DUIs bc he kept paying off the huge fines and had a good lawyer. It's definitely about the benjis for sure...but then again DUI Court might be different than narcotic court.


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #16484629 - 07/05/12 09:58 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I dont know about that. I still owe 5 grand on the car. I payed 3500 for a lawyer. It sounds like id get fucked even harder if i just gave them my car.





Not if your lawyer made a deal to have the charges dropped in exchange for the car.  Trading the car for dropped charges is a lot like buying your way out of it, and would be a good deal.

I am not sure if they can seize a car that you don't own though.



Having a non-felonious record is invaluable. You will make hundreds of thousands less over the course of your career if you're a felon as well as being denied basic American rights like the right to keep and bear arms or even to travel freely to other countries. If OP can trade his car and some debt for a clean record he can declare bankruptcy anyways and be far ahead on the deal for the rest of his life.


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    #16484632 - 07/05/12 09:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

All of this forfeiture nonsense is a sideshow of a sideshow...Decisions aren't made based on a few bucks like that.  The smart thing is to not mention forfeiture unless they demand it as part of the offer...which is likely.

His attorney isn't going to go in and say "if he gives the state his car, will they drop it to a misdemeanor."  That simply isn't how these negotiations go.


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    #16484633 - 07/05/12 09:59 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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    #16484641 - 07/05/12 10:00 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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All of this forfeiture nonsense is a sideshow of a sideshow...Decisions aren't made based on a few bucks like that.  The smart thing is to not mention forfeiture unless they demand it as part of the offer...which is likely.

His attorney isn't going to go in and say "if he gives the state his car, will they drop it to a misdemeanor."  That simply isn't how these negotiations go.



Yes it is. I've seen it before. OP I hope you have a better lawyer than Enlil.


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    #16484648 - 07/05/12 10:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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They prob could and just make him pay the rest of the bill.  Not saying they would buy from what I've dealt with as far as accidents and insurance, they could are less and just assume you realized that.  So if insurance makes you pay the rest of a car loan if it's totaled I'm sure the Leos would care less about keeping someone with the bill.  Just not sure how seizures work or read about one.

If it meant staying out jail, even for me it'd be a pretty hard thing to give up(since it's paid off and can't afford another yet) I'd look At the fact I'd be in jail and not able to drive it and have a record and be very limited to jobs. I'd seriously look into what Alan suggested if it's an option.

Another anecdote, my boss told me how he knew this guy who had been through 9 first DUIs bc he kept paying off the huge fines and had a good lawyer. It's definitely about the benjis for sure...but then again DUI Court might be different than narcotic court.



It's about money and power. At the local criminal level it's much more about money because those involved don't have more money than they could ever spend for pleasure. Anyone that doubts the money motive is simply naive to the realities of the system's inherent corruption.


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    #16484659 - 07/05/12 10:07 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

OP's attorney will tell him the same shit.  You're not qualified to render legal advice, and you sure as hell aren't qualified to render any kind of evaluation of my skills as an attorney...

You're giving worthless advice to someone with a real legal problem.  This particular advice won't get him in worse trouble, but it might lead him to believe that he can somehow pay a fee to have his charges dropped.  That isn't the case.  Whether or not forfeiture occurs depends on many factors, and the prosecutor doesn't have a dog in that fight.  Usually, the DA demands forfeiture as a part of the deal so that it removes the issue from future litigation.  He/she couldn't care less about the value of the car or how much money the state may or may not make from it.

Your world view of how the government works is your choice, and you're welcome to spew your nonsense as much as you want in the conspiracy forum, but the OP here needs real-world advice...which you're clearly not competent to give.

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    #16484661 - 07/05/12 10:07 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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His attorney isn't going to go in and say "if he gives the state his car, will they drop it to a misdemeanor."  That simply isn't how these negotiations go.





I got out of felony charges by giving them my car.  That was the deal my lawyer made with the prosecutor.  This was in Illinois.

I was going to fight the seizure and I was going to lose.  It was a good deal.


This was 15 years ago and I still have never been convicted of a drug crime.  I went on to work some great jobs and pass background checks, including for the federal government, which I would not have been able to do with a drug felony on my record.

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    #16484673 - 07/05/12 10:10 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I got out of felony charges by giving them my car.  That was the deal my lawyer made with the prosecutor.  This was in Illinois.

I was going to fight the seizure and I was going to lose.  It was a good deal.


This was 15 years ago and I still have never been convicted of a drug crime.  I went on to work some great jobs and pass background checks, including for the federal government, which I would not have been able to do with a drug felony on my record.




I'm sure you did, but I can assure you that the DA wasn't concerned about making money for the state.  The DA was only concerned about the future litigation of the forfeiture issue.  The facts in your case lent themselves to offer you a good deal...If those facts didn't...the forfeiture wouldn't have helped...

In situations like this forfeiture is almost ALWAYS required for a deal..


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    #16484800 - 07/05/12 10:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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OP's attorney will tell him the same shit.  You're not qualified to render legal advice, and you sure as hell aren't qualified to render any kind of evaluation of my skills as an attorney...

You're giving worthless advice to someone with a real legal problem.  This particular advice won't get him in worse trouble, but it might lead him to believe that he can somehow pay a fee to have his charges dropped.  That isn't the case.  Whether or not forfeiture occurs depends on many factors, and the prosecutor doesn't have a dog in that fight.  Usually, the DA demands forfeiture as a part of the deal so that it removes the issue from future litigation.  He/she couldn't care less about the value of the car or how much money the state may or may not make from it.

Your world view of how the government works is your choice, and you're welcome to spew your nonsense as much as you want in the conspiracy forum, but the OP here needs real-world advice...which you're clearly not competent to give.

Luckily, the OP is smart enough to figure that out.



I think you're the one giving out worthless advise here. I'm in Ohio and I know for a fact several people who's attorneys that have voluntarily offered to surrender bond money and in one case a house to get charges dropped. Alan is in Illinois and is saying the same thing. I have first hand experience seeing this happen. I also know for a fact of a case like this in Tennessee and in Florida. I feel very bad for your clients.


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    #16484810 - 07/05/12 10:53 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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    #16484824 - 07/05/12 10:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Believe what you want.  I'm not going to get into an intellectual battle with an unarmed man.



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    #16484829 - 07/05/12 10:58 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm sure you did, but I can assure you that the DA wasn't concerned about making money for the state.    The DA was only concerned about the future litigation of the forfeiture issue.




I agree.  The DA probably didn't care much about my case at all. 

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The facts in your case lent themselves to offer you a good deal...If those facts didn't...the forfeiture wouldn't have helped...




Actually the facts in my case would have definitely lead to my conviction.  I sold acid to a CI.

The lawyer I hired knew the DA well and was friendly with the court, I think that had a lot to do with it.


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Believe what you want.  I'm not going to get into an intellectual battle with an unarmed man.





Haha!  Rail_gun isn't really a bad guy though, he does actually think, unlike some posters.


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Congrats. In my 10+ years on the shroomery you are the first to be worthy of my ignore list.

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    #16484848 - 07/05/12 11:04 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Not the strength of the case, really.  A good deal CAN be based on a weak case, but when you have a clean record, it's a bit different.  Most DAs really aren't looking to ruin someone's life for one bad decision.  They are, however, evaluated on their conviction rate.

I know nothing about your case, but I am guessing that your attorney talked to the DA and explained that you're really a "good kid" who made a bad choice...you've really got potential for a bright future, and it's clear that you've learned your lesson here, etc...

I sell this to prosecutors all the time.  If I can get someone off with a diversion, dismissal, or petty misdemeanor...I do.  Forfeiture is often required for the deal because without it, the case still lingers as a civil seizure case...and no one wants that.

Having a lawyer that knows the DA helps a lot.  This is one of the reasons that I am able to negotiate such good deals sometimes.  The prosecutors know me.  They know I'm not going to bullshit them, so when I go to bat for a client's character, they know I'm probably giving it to them straight.


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    #16484867 - 07/05/12 11:12 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Believe what you want.  I'm not going to get into an intellectual battle with an unarmed man.





Haha!  Rail_gun isn't really a bad guy though, he does actually think, unlike some posters.




I agree.  I actually meant he was unarmed insofar as he has no actual knowledge/experience with how these things actually work...I guess my wording was a bit more broad (and humorous) than that...

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    #16486032 - 07/05/12 06:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Well shit, i really hope i dont have to forfeit my car. Like i said, i owe 5 grand on it still. I do not have enough cash for another.
This is my first offense and my lawyer said he should be able to get it back for me.
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    #16486652 - 07/05/12 08:00 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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The lawyer I hired knew the DA well and was friendly with the court, I think that had a lot to do with it.








This is very important. I had many lawyers tell me this in my case. Less head butting in the deal and each other knows what they will do.


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    #16488096 - 07/06/12 12:20 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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This is my first offense and my lawyer said he should be able to get it back for me.





I don't know about that, asset forfeiture is really difficult to challenge because the standard of evidence required is low.  If they can prove that you sold drugs in your car, I am not sure why your lawyer thinks he can get it back.

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It sucks that this is happening to you. I enjoy your posts and you seem like a good guy.
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    #17163254 - 11/05/12 12:20 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Update on this OP ?

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #17163703 - 11/05/12 03:51 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

He's in jail man.

:feelsbadman:


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #17163724 - 11/05/12 04:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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CounterCulturest said:
Update on this OP ?





http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17154934

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Dark_Star]
    #17168170 - 11/05/12 07:12 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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He's in jail man.

:feelsbadman:



Really ? for sure ?

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #17168307 - 11/05/12 07:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)


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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #17168370 - 11/05/12 07:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

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Alan Rockefeller said:
Yes, see http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17154934




Oh man that is so sad :frown: Thank you for the link. He seems like he has a good personality, he will do good in there. Hopefully it really turns out to only be a month or so.

I like OP a lot. He is good guy.

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Re: Im in a sticky legal situation. Please help! [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #17170777 - 11/06/12 05:50 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

It's a month, which will probably be only a couple of weeks.


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