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What is the worlds view of America?
    #1641990 - 06/18/03 12:25 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was watching a documentary on CBC last night asking that question...it was fairly interesting.

Here is the link...
http://www.cbc.ca/news/america/poll.html

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55%
Percentage of respondents who answered "very favourable" or "fairly favourable" when asked how they felt towards America, with Canadians second in line for the most favourable responses (after respondents in the U.S., of course). Overall, 37 per cent of respondents answered "very unfavourable" or "fairly unfavourable."


U.S. President George Bush
57%
Percentage of respondents who answered "very unfavourable" or "fairly unfavourable" when asked what they thought of U.S. President George W. Bush, with respondents in Jordan, France, Brazil and Indonesia the most unfavourable. Overall, 35 per cent of respondents answered "very favourable" or "fairly favourable."

81%
Percentage of respondents from France who described Americans as arrogant. More than half of American respondents agreed.

89%
Percentage of American respondents who agreed with the statement that "America is the best country in the world in which to live." Ten per cent disagreed.

6%
Percentage of Canadian respondents who said the U.S. is a better place to live than Canada. Ninety per cent said it was not better than Canada.

4 out of 5
Proportion of overall respondents who said they would not like to live in the United States if given the chance.

3 out of 4
Proportion of American respondents who said they would not like to go live outside the U.S. if they had the chance. An overwhelming majority of American respondents (96 per cent) said people outside the U.S. want to come and live there.

81%
Percentage of Australian respondents who said Australia is becoming more like the U.S.

2 out of 3
Proportion of Canadian respondents who agreed with the statement "America is a force for good in the world."

1 out of 3
Proportion of Canadian respondents who agreed with the statement "America scares me." Britain and Australia produced similar results.


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Culture Economy Economy Economy

2 out of 3
Proportion of overall respondents who said they like American movies. Fifty-three pre cent said they like American popular music and only 39 per cent said they liked American television. Among Canadian respondents, 80 per cent said they liked American movies, 73 per cent liked American music, and 71 per cent liked American television; but only 38 per cent said they liked American Web sites.


54%
Percentage of overall respondents who said they don't like American food. One of five American respondents agreed.

24%
Percentage of overall respondents who named "Coke" when asked to name an American product. Next in line was "McDonalds" with 10 per cent.

13%
Percentage of respondents in Indonesia who named "KFC" or "Kentucky Fried Chicken" when asked to name an American product. In South Korea, 14 per cent named "Nike."

2 out of 3
Proportion of Israeli respondents who said their country is less cultured than the United States. Only 23 per cent of Canadian respondents thought the U.S. more cultured. (Culture was taken to mean showing or having good taste, manners, upbringing and education.)

44%
Percentage of American respondents who said the United States is the most cultured country in the world. Fifty-four per cent disagreed.


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Economy


40%
Percentage of Canadian respondents who said American economic policies make Canada poorer. Thirty-one per cent said richer, 18 per cent said there was no effect, and 11 per cent said they don't know.

60%
Percentage of American respondents who think other countries want to copy the way the U.S. runs its economy. However, only 23 per cent of non-American respondents said their country should run its economy like the U.S.


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Military Saddam Hussein

48%
Percentage of respondents in South Korea who say the U.S. is a bigger threat to world peace and stability than North Korea. Thirty-nine per cent said the opposite. Overall, respondents said the United States was more dangerous to world peace and stability than China, Russia, France, Iran and Syria. American respondents answered the opposite on all accounts.

2 out of 3
Proportion of Russian respondents who said America's superior military power makes the world a more dangerous place. Thirty-seven per cent of Canadian respondents agreed, while 41 per cent said the military power of the U.S. makes the world a safer place.

More than 90%
Percentage of respondents in Jordan, South Korea and Brazil who said the U.S. military could do more to avoid civilian casualties in military conflicts. Two out of three American respondents said the U.S. does enough.


Saddam Hussein
56%
Percentage of overall respondents who said the U.S. was wrong to invade Iraq. Thirty-seven per cent said the U.S. was right to invade. Fifty-one per cent said life for the Iraqi people will be better now that Saddam Hussein is gone, while only 20 per cent said life will be worse for them. Twenty per cent said it will make no difference and nine per cent said they don't know. Only 21 per cent believed the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq would result in an independent Iraqi regime.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Rono]
    #1642003 - 06/18/03 12:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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81%
Percentage of respondents from France who described Americans as arrogant.




Bwahahahahaha!

Sorry, but the idea of the French calling anyone "arrogant" just cracks me up.

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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Phred]
    #1642004 - 06/18/03 12:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I actually found that kind of amusing as well...


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Rono]
    #1642048 - 06/18/03 12:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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55%
Percentage of respondents who answered "very favourable" or "fairly favourable" when asked how they felt towards America, with Canadians second in line for the most favourable responses (after respondents in the U.S., of course). Overall, 37 per cent of respondents answered "very unfavourable" or "fairly unfavourable."



It's always easy to pick on #1.


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57%
Percentage of respondents who answered "very unfavourable" or "fairly unfavourable" when asked what they thought of U.S. President George W. Bush, with respondents in Jordan, France, Brazil and Indonesia the most unfavourable. Overall, 35 per cent of respondents answered "very favourable" or "fairly favourable."



He can be annoying but he's much better than the other choice at the time.


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81%
Percentage of respondents from France who described Americans as arrogant. More than half of American respondents agreed.



Even I'll agree with that, but rightly so. We are arrogant but the French are arrogant buffoons.


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89%
Percentage of American respondents who agreed with the statement that "America is the best country in the world in which to live." Ten per cent disagreed.



The 10% are obviously morons.


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6%
Percentage of Canadian respondents who said the U.S. is a better place to live than Canada. Ninety per cent said it was not better than Canada.


It's the cold. It has affected their brains.


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4 out of 5
Proportion of overall respondents who said they would not like to live in the United States if given the chance.



Good. Too many freeloaders here now.


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3 out of 4
Proportion of American respondents who said they would not like to go live outside the U.S. if they had the chance. An overwhelming majority of American respondents (96 per cent) said people outside the U.S. want to come and live there.



Why leave the best? I think that's the rest is probably true.


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81%
Percentage of Australian respondents who said Australia is becoming more like the U.S.



It's only a matter of time before more do.


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2 out of 3
Proportion of Canadian respondents who agreed with the statement "America is a force for good in the world."



Where did they find some Canadians with their heads NOT up their asses?  :grin:

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1 out of 3
Proportion of Canadian respondents who agreed with the statement "America scares me." Britain and Australia produced similar results.



BOO!


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2 out of 3
Proportion of overall respondents who said they like American movies. Fifty-three pre cent said they like American popular music and only 39 per cent said they liked American television. Among Canadian respondents, 80 per cent said they liked American movies, 73 per cent liked American music, and 71 per cent liked American television; but only 38 per cent said they liked American Web sites.



39% like American TV? I retract my previous ass statement.


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54%
Percentage of overall respondents who said they don't like American food. One of five American respondents agreed.



Depends what you eat I guess. Much American food is tasteless.


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24%
Percentage of overall respondents who named "Coke" when asked to name an American product. Next in line was "McDonalds" with 10 per cent.

13%
Percentage of respondents in Indonesia who named "KFC" or "Kentucky Fried Chicken" when asked to name an American product. In South Korea, 14 per cent named "Nike."



OK


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2 out of 3
Proportion of Israeli respondents who said their country is less cultured than the United States. Only 23 per cent of Canadian respondents thought the U.S. more cultured. (Culture was taken to mean showing or having good taste, manners, upbringing and education.)



Well.


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44%
Percentage of American respondents who said the United States is the most cultured country in the world. Fifty-four per cent disagreed.



BURP!


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40%
Percentage of Canadian respondents who said American economic policies make Canada poorer. Thirty-one per cent said richer, 18 per cent said there was no effect, and 11 per cent said they don't know.



Silly Canoodians!


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60%
Percentage of American respondents who think other countries want to copy the way the U.S. runs its economy. However, only 23 per cent of non-American respondents said their country should run its economy like the U.S.



Yes, so many would have to give up handouts if it was like the US. Can you imagine all those freeloaders having to all of a sudden get a job?


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48%
Percentage of respondents in South Korea who say the U.S. is a bigger threat to world peace and stability than North Korea. Thirty-nine per cent said the opposite. Overall, respondents said the United States was more dangerous to world peace and stability than China, Russia, France, Iran and Syria. American respondents answered the opposite on all accounts.



HAHAHAHAHAAHA!!! Must be the water.


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2 out of 3
Proportion of Russian respondents who said America's superior military power makes the world a more dangerous place. Thirty-seven per cent of Canadian respondents agreed, while 41 per cent said the military power of the U.S. makes the world a safer place.



The Russians are just pissed because they lost the cold war. The Canadians are just Canadian!  :grin:


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More than 90%
Percentage of respondents in Jordan, South Korea and Brazil who said the U.S. military could do more to avoid civilian casualties in military conflicts. Two out of three American respondents said the U.S. does enough.



We do far more than most.


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56%
Percentage of overall respondents who said the U.S. was wrong to invade Iraq. Thirty-seven per cent said the U.S. was right to invade. Fifty-one per cent said life for the Iraqi people will be better now that Saddam Hussein is gone, while only 20 per cent said life will be worse for them. Twenty per cent said it will make no difference and nine per cent said they don't know. Only 21 per cent believed the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq would result in an independent Iraqi regime.
 



It's never easy to decide.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Rono]
    #1642055 - 06/18/03 12:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i wonder what the percentage in the US would be if they asked the average American if they gave 2 shits what others thought?  hmmff. :smirk:


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1642064 - 06/18/03 12:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

...ah...the arrogance...


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Rono]
    #1642066 - 06/18/03 12:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

(Culture was taken to mean showing or having good taste, manners, upbringing and education.)

44% Percentage of American respondents who said the United States is the most cultured country in the world. Fifty-four per cent disagreed.

hahaha. that 44% is the reason the 54% are right.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Rono]
    #1642086 - 06/18/03 01:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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...ah...the arrogance...




ah...the ability to not give a shit. It's a stress reliever, you should try it.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1643533 - 06/19/03 03:29 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Not giving a shit? You guys sure seem to give a shit about the Iraqis.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1643642 - 06/19/03 05:08 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Not giving a shit? You guys sure seem to give a shit about the Iraqis.




Do we? Maybe the government.

People seem to have a hard time with this. They think The American government is shitty so they just assume that all Americans are also shitty? It's not that simple.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1643772 - 06/19/03 06:57 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Not giving a shit? You guys sure seem to give a shit about the Iraqis




and yet we still don't give a shit aboot your opinions...funny how that works. I think that's what really frosts your muffins. i can't be bothered or left worrying aboot what some Canadian thinks of me or my country, you guys seem to get upset when we push our opinions on you, likewise in the opposite direction.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1643774 - 06/19/03 06:59 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Again, nothing but put downs, and sad attempts to annoy, how old are you again?


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Paid]
    #1643791 - 06/19/03 07:16 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

quit yer fuckin' whining. If you don't like my responses feel free to ignore them. besides there wasn't a put down in my responses.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1643794 - 06/19/03 07:17 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)


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besides there wasn't a put down in my responses



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and yet we still don't give a shit aboot your opinions 




Ah so this is humour again, silly me my mistake  :confused:


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1643801 - 06/19/03 07:21 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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quit yer fuckin' whining.




Ah i c, so any thing aimed at you, you don't like is whining.
You must have many many friends  :rolleyes:
Do you hear what you consider whining outside the Internet in real life?If so that could actually explain a little bit about your self.So please answer for my curiosity.



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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Paid]
    #1643872 - 06/19/03 08:05 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Ah so this is humour again, silly me my mistake



One of many. You should probably not comment on a subject you obviously have no understanding of.

Of course, then you could say precious little.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Paid]
    #1643917 - 06/19/03 08:34 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Ah so this is humour again, silly me my mistake




how is this a put down? Do you care what my opinions are? If so then that's truley sad. I'll say it again. Quit yer whining.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Paid]
    #1643920 - 06/19/03 08:39 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Ah i c, so any thing aimed at you, you don't like is whining.
You must have many many friends




Actually i have many friends, i'll say hi to them for you this weekend when i'm surrounded by them.

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Do you hear what you consider whining outside the Internet in real life?




yes i do. Many people whine in my "real life". It's just as annoying as those that whine ON the internet.

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If so that could actually explain a little bit about your self.So please answer for my curiosity.




that made absolutly no sense. Quit trying to sound like you know what your saying.

quit yer whining


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1644370 - 06/19/03 12:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Luvs, inny...get a room.

America is shit.  I would not go there for any reason.  I couldn't care less that they couldn't care less of what i think of them....the fact remains that the tarnish of your values is starting to show, and the rest of the world is getting thier panties in a twist when your president starts unauthorised invasions under false pretenses.

We all know as long as americans have mc donals for a diet and flatscreen tv, whatever else happens is irrelevent..."we're number 1" :tongue:

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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1644376 - 06/19/03 12:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Luvs, inny...get a room.




Ummm..... ewwwww.

Although judging by the way he's been tagging along after me.......

I'll just wait patiently for the homophobe comment now Alpo.

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    #1644435 - 06/19/03 12:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

fag..


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1644451 - 06/19/03 12:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

I'm dumb with astonishment and amazement which borders upon stupification!


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1644453 - 06/19/03 12:54 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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America is shit.




i like it

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I couldn't care less that they couldn't care less of what i think of them.




wow, we agree

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the fact remains that the tarnish of your values is starting to show,




actually out patience has been spent. Whiping boy maybe, but a whiping boy that hits back.

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and the rest of the world is getting thier panties in a twist when your president starts unauthorised invasions under false pretenses.




so how does that equate to America being shit?


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    #1644477 - 06/19/03 01:02 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

:grin: :grin: :grin:

i'm sorry.....


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1644482 - 06/19/03 01:04 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
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America is shit. 




i like it




bout time!

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the fact remains that the tarnish of your values is starting to show,




actually our patience has been spent.  Whiping boy maybe, but a whiping boy that hits back.




It shows inside your country too, but i guess you don't keep all them guns around for hunting  eh?  You beat some sense into yourselves... :tongue:

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and the rest of the world is getting thier panties in a twist when your president starts unauthorised invasions under false pretenses.




so how does that equate to America being shit?
 




Well despite you prison population, war on drugs, war on terrorism (the consequenses of which are only beginning to show..), your president being a lying SOB, corporate america is heading downhill into what appears to be some orwellian horror society.

Of course thats just my opinion, and it still has a ways to go, but it doesn't appear like america will change for the better anytime soon...., and thats why i feel its a shit country which advertises liberty and justice, but does not follow them.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1644575 - 06/19/03 01:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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bout time!




??? :confused:???

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It shows inside your country too, but i guess you don't keep all them guns around for hunting eh? You beat some sense into yourselves... 




Actually all my guns except one is for hunting.  I'm an avid hunter.

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Well despite you prison population, war on drugs, war on terrorism (the consequenses of which are only beginning to show..), your president being a lying SOB, corporate america is heading downhill into what appears to be some orwellian horror society.





that's your opinion (look up a few posts to see how i feel aboot opinions from outsiders) :smirk:

with that said Canada (as you said) is a carbon copy but with more seals and snow.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1644583 - 06/19/03 01:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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with that said Canada (as you said) is a carbon copy but with more seals and snow.



And really ugly hairy women!


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1644614 - 06/19/03 01:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

bout time!

??? :confused: ???
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I see why your confused....i misinterpreted..... :blush:

"Canada (as you said) is a carbon copy but with more seals and snow. "

yeah, but more taxes (i think), weaker drug laws, more multi cultural, more peace loving (can be attributed to america doing the "dirty work", and i can see some truth in that), more wilderness......

But recently it seems america is changing drastically, and canada wont follow that path...i hope.  But im young and have never payed much attention to america, so it could have always been similar to this...


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    #1644652 - 06/19/03 01:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I don't think anyone in the world doesn't feel American.
The Western world, maybe. Everywhere with drywall and
Jennifer Lopez, maybe.

(Americans from America that don't like America always
tell other Americans from America that like America
that they're unaware and all that and they should, like,
go to other countries and stuff. But outside of American
America, everything looks a lot more American than it
does on TV. The rest of the world only looks exotic on
TV.) Everyone is an American. (Even in the bad countries
that Americans from America want to blow up and kill all
the people in, everyone's buying pirated copies of
American movies and watching satellite TV. Even the bad
terrorist guys and the Islam guys are mostly operating
in reaction to American monoculture.

And that's mostly what this thing shows. Anyone who
thinks their nation is more "cultured" is being a silly
goose. Right?) (There are no Canadian movies playing
at the big movie theatre. No one likes Canadian TV,
because it's boring and not very good. No one listens
to Radio 2 because it just plays classical music and
jazz. But, because there are Canadian movies and TV
shows and smart people watch them, we are very cultured.
All Americans watch COPS and Jerry Springer. For many
hours a day! They're all fat, too.)

So, it's mostly flawed, because everywhere in the
world that has drywall is American. And everyone in
Canada and France and Australia and wherever else is
a stupid liar.

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    #1644676 - 06/19/03 02:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Have you been to other countries?...cus while thier is definate western influence, it is often like a hybrid of the two cultures to create something new and unique....NOT monoculture....exept mabye for canada, britain and other wetern countries.


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    #1644760 - 06/19/03 02:32 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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yeah, but more taxes (i think), 




yes A LOT more taxes.

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more multi cultural




that can be debated...

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more peace loving




It's all relative.

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But im young and have never payed much attention to america




no offense but many of america's critics are children either still living with their parents or frequent sites like this one to find out what america is like.  These critics are just as mind numbed as those americans that they accuse.  I take no credence in what many of them say because they're just that: children.  I'm not saying we're perfect, far from it but as you state that "America is shit" after saying that you don't come here is just as ignorant (meaning you don't now) as those you accuse to be.  This Mcdonalds comment is a funny one because if you just frequent this site you'd think it's the only thing we eat.  I haven't been to McDonalds in a few months.  That's like me saying that the average Canadian is nothing more than a igloo inhabiting, seal beating hockey player. :smirk:


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1644791 - 06/19/03 02:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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That's like me saying that the average Canadian is nothing more than a igloo inhabiting, seal beating hockey player.



WHAT???

You mean there's more too them than that? Perhaps I shouldn't generalize so.  :wink:

I sticking with their women are ugly though.


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    #1644826 - 06/19/03 02:49 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

their women have nice racks though...it still astounds me to this day.  It's all that whale blubber. :grin:


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    #1644831 - 06/19/03 02:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
their women have nice racks though...it still astounds me to this day.  It's all that whale blubber. :grin: 



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    #1644843 - 06/19/03 02:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Actually all my guns except one is for hunting. I'm an avid hunter.

You "hunt" with a gun? Sitting 500 yards away slurping beer, breaking wind and taking potshots at anything that moves? Not exactly Geronimo is it.

If you want to call yourself a hunter get out there with a spear and try taking out a grizzly bear on your own.


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    #1644853 - 06/19/03 02:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

How could you have gotten so much lamer since this morning?


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    #1644865 - 06/19/03 03:03 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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You "hunt" with a gun? Sitting 500 yards away slurping beer, breaking wind and taking potshots at anything that moves? Not exactly Geronimo is it.




It's almost not even worth it....weren't you the one whining aboot childish putdowns? for each his own i suppose.

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    #1644870 - 06/19/03 03:06 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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It's almost not even worth it....weren't you the one whining aboot childish putdowns?


You don't expect Alpo (do as I say, not as I do), to actually do as he says?

You sir, are an incredible optimist!

It's just one of the things that makes you an all around good guy.


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    #1644882 - 06/19/03 03:12 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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You sir, are an incredible optimist!




i'm in a good mood today...i'm going on a rafting trip this weekend and i'm excited aboot it.

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It's just one of the things that makes you an all around good guy.




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    #1644887 - 06/19/03 03:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

It's almost not even worth it....weren't you the one whining aboot childish putdowns?

It isn't a putdown. I just can't see how you call shooting something with a gun "hunting". "Shooting" yes, "Hunting" no.


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    #1644892 - 06/19/03 03:16 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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slurping beer, breaking wind and taking potshots at anything that moves?


That wasn't a putdown?

See that's why you never make any sense.... your understanding of the written word is sadly lacking.


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    #1644895 - 06/19/03 03:17 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

call it what you want....like i said you're almost not even worth a response.


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    #1644901 - 06/19/03 03:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Are you two kids almost done stroking eachother or would you like some more time alone?... :smirk:


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    #1644912 - 06/19/03 03:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That wasn't a putdown?

You believe inny doesn't break wind? I know you two are close but come on man.

Sorry, but the last "hunters" I saw in america with guns were doing precisely that.


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    #1644914 - 06/19/03 03:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

More time please!

You can come too if you promise NOT to wear that kilt!





It frightens me!


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    #1644920 - 06/19/03 03:24 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Lets see how much lamer you can get.

I'm betting quite a bit if history is any indication.


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    #1645085 - 06/19/03 04:20 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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More than 90%
Percentage of respondents in Jordan, South Korea and Brazil who said the U.S. military could do more to avoid civilian casualties in military conflicts. Two out of three American respondents said the U.S. does enough.




To do more would imply better technology and more millitary power. These are some of the same responants that thought that our millitary was to powerfull and a threat to peace.
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So a good number of the respondents who think it was wrong also think that life is betterfor Iraqi people now. So does that mean that they just like to oppose America regardlass?


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    #1645162 - 06/19/03 04:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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So does that mean that they just like to oppose America regardlass?



Give the man a cigar!


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    #1645163 - 06/19/03 04:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

So a good number of the respondents who think it was wrong also think that life is betterfor Iraqi people now. So does that mean that they just like to oppose America regardlass?


Maybe it means that they haven't figured out how to travel back in time and 'undo' something that has already happened and they had no control over?


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    #1645174 - 06/19/03 04:39 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

If any external culture was working in America,
beyond marginal pop culture things that are
easily absorbed by America, you could call it
a hybrid, I think. But Europe looking like a
hybrid is just the last bits of culture that
are capable of co-existing with the monoculture,
the permissible bits that don't mean that much
and can be gotten rid of when they're done.
Something like that, I think.

The results of the survey = 'We are not like
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    #1645279 - 06/19/03 05:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

maybe that is it. They had no control of it and so they automatically are against it. I can understand the impulse to feel that way. But the fact of the matter is that they did have control over it. They (the middle east and anywhere where extremist/terrorists reside) could have preempted all of this had they taken care of these groups on their own.

Anyway I just think it is funny. If their lives will be better then on what grounds is it wrong. Perhaps the execution was flawed but does that make it wrong?


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    #1645306 - 06/19/03 05:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

That depends if you feel that the ends justify the means.



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    #1645352 - 06/19/03 05:40 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I was not trying to make an ends to means argument.
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    #1645458 - 06/19/03 06:09 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Wouldn't discussing the results of the survey be
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    #1645519 - 06/19/03 06:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: bivalve]
    #1645530 - 06/19/03 06:35 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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bivalve said:
If any external culture was working in America,
beyond marginal pop culture things that are
easily absorbed by America, you could call it
a hybrid, I think. But Europe looking like a
hybrid is just the last bits of culture that
are capable of co-existing with the monoculture,
the permissible bits that don't mean that much
and can be gotten rid of when they're done.
Something like that, I think.

The results of the survey = 'We are not like
you!' = just regional pride.





Good points...i agree that, with the satellite tvs, multi-billion dollare international corporations, and computer/ communication breakthroughs, this monoculture is growing and absorbing at a phenominal rate...and that no country is imune to its influence.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1645562 - 06/19/03 06:45 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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as you state that "America is shit" after saying that you don't come here is just as ignorant (meaning you don't now) as those you accuse to be.




Sorry, I have been to america many times when i was younger, and the main reason i won't go there now is because of thier drug laws and border harassment i get as 22 year old crossing from BC.

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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1645572 - 06/19/03 06:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I bet if you put on one of Rono's dressed, they'd let you right through.

At least after a strip search.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: bivalve]
    #1645630 - 06/19/03 07:07 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I never said anything about being 'right'.


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And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1646125 - 06/19/03 10:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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the main reason i won't go there now is because of thier drug laws and border harassment i get as 22 year old crossing from BC




Is that it?  We went into Canada every Thursday night in college and were harrassed by the Canadian side every weekend.  Every single time we were somehow harrassed (latino friends i suppose)....I still think Canada is ok.....and i'm a lot older than 22 :smirk:


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: bivalve]
    #1646163 - 06/19/03 10:48 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I dunno.  A few countries I've been to have this second toilet dealy that shoots a fountain of water on your arse.  Comes in real handy in Thailand when you get the shits.  You get used to it. 

And no it's not a drinking fountain.  :blush:

But I have read that entertainment is a leading U.S. export.  I watched a WWF episode on a bus in Fiji.  I was the only Westerner and I felt like apologizing to everyone.  There was a chick (tag-team) who stunned the male opponent with a kiss, and these dudes who railed on the other guys with garbage cans, ladders, and other junk.  Top rate! 


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: hongomon]
    #1647878 - 06/20/03 12:57 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

HA!...its called a budiay (sp) [bu-dai]  :grin:


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1647897 - 06/20/03 01:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Is that it? 




That and the fact that i find most americans to be quit annoying and arrogent, and theres nothing i'd really want to go there to see (except hawaii, and i've been there before),  basically i don't enjoy western culture and i view amercia as slightly worse than canada...which is bad enough by itself.


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We went into Canada every Thursday night in college and were harrassed by the Canadian side every weekend.  Every single time we were somehow harrassed (latino friends i suppose)




Well i can understand why you would come here...even with being harrased! :smirk:

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....I still think Canada is ok.....and i'm a lot older than 22 :smirk:




Gee, how old are you?!... :shocked: :wink:


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1648237 - 06/20/03 03:15 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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That and the fact that i find most americans to be quit annoying and arrogent




But at the same time you admit to not traveling to the United States? For each his own i guess.

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That and the fact that i find most americans to be quit annoying and arrogent




it's not the reason you'd think, they let 19 year olds drink. That was the only reason. I find Canada's way of life pretty much a carbon copy of the united states, like it or not.

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Gee, how old are you?!...




only 32 years young. I've lived within an artillry shot of Canada almost my whole life.


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Re: What is the worlds view of America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1648378 - 06/20/03 03:59 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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That and the fact that i find most americans to be quit annoying and arrogent




But at the same time you admit to not traveling to the United States?  For each his own i guess.




You misunderstand.  I said I no longer will go to america for any reason.  I have been many times before and a handfull over the past five years...i've been to hawaii too, which was great....just sad how overdeveloped its become.

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Innvertigo said:  I find Canada's way of life pretty much a carbon copy of the united states, like it or not.




True, but i would still prefer to live in canada.  We're prolly more alike than i'd care to admit...

" That and the fact that i find most americans to be quit annoying and arrogent "
This was made from a few encounters i've had with americans in countries over seas.  One guy in thailand was saying how stupid the people were and bragging of how he was able to go 200km on the freeways with his motorbike and other bigoted shit.....
Don't get me wrong, i don't think ALL americans are like that, and i've known smart ones too.....its just with my limited experiences the ones i've met overseas are uneducated, intollerant of culture, and have overinflated egos.

32!!!! :shocked:....i guess one day even i'll be that old...


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