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 Tosh
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 *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* 
#16416289 - 06/21/12 06:27 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok, first of all i would like to say i want to make this as clear as possible. I made sure i checked the FAQ and guides before i made posting this. So far, iv got alot of respect for what poeple do to grow shrooms.
I came here today to get a better understanding of how to grow mushrooms. And more specifically growing mushrooms with a kit that i had bought, which is the main reason im posting because i need more specific information on this instead of reading through a guide, that i cant figure out were to even start at.
Please, bare with me as i am almost a complete noob when it comes to shrooms. Although i do know much about growing weed. As i am willing to learn and spend just as much time with learning all about growing shrooms.I have taken shrooms twice now. And both experiences have been basically life changing.
So to get to the details, i have bought a Growing Kit.
http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/grow-kits.html to be exact.
Now i would like to know if anybody is willing to give me information on how to even start, either PM or post. and maybe a step by step guide to beginning the process of growing with this kit, maybe make it simple if you can becuase there seems to be alot of terms i dont really understand. Can i just get a spore syringe and inject the spores into the jar? Thanks.
I really do seek some help, and i hope there's someone out there that can.
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 Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16416305 - 06/21/12 06:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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None of us uses kits, so specific advice isn't possible.
Watch these videos though: http://www.mushroomvideos.com/ and apply what you can.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Doc_T]
#16416562 - 06/21/12 07:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Listen to the Doc...
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheBot0nist]
#16416697 - 06/21/12 07:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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extremely*
had to be done
also the search engine can answer 99.999% of all questions. i have been doing this for 2 years and in all that time i only had one question that i couldnt find an answer for.
use the search engine, read read read, and lurk during all of your free time. you will learn more than you think. also grow kits are a serious rip off in terms of money and experience. buy a PC, some jars, and substrate. you will reduce your costs many times over and actually be doing work you can be proud of. if you solely want the mushrooms, just go buy them. if you want the experience be ready to put in some work.
best of luck man. it is a fun hobby and if your heart is in the right place you will truly enjoy it
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16416740 - 06/21/12 07:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Don't waste money with a kit. Build yourself a SGFC, make some BRF cakes, fruit them, and get a feel for the magic.
The materials for everything are cheap enough, you are basically wasting money on a kit, when you could be buying more MS solutions.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: darkliight]
#16416779 - 06/21/12 08:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Get some spore syringes.
Use the tote to make a SGFC.
Use the jars.
Use the perlite.
Use the lights ... if they are the right spectrum
You don't need any of that other stuff.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Wing]
#16416968 - 06/21/12 08:45 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I started with that kit, it sits in my shed now. It's very cheaply put together and will only offer moderate results (the lights didn't even survive the first week!). Spend 8 bucks on a clear tote from walmart and get some more perlite and a grow light in the 6500 spectrum. And yes, you can shoot spores straight into the jars.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Doc_T]
#16417005 - 06/21/12 08:51 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanks sooo much for all the replies, during the time iv been waiting iv read ALOT of information about growing. And what can i say, iv started to learn alittle.
Wing, your reply seemed to help me alot too. Thanks again, but is perlite, the same as substrate? like in the jars?'
I still dont exactly have the whole process in my head, but ik to make the SGFC. do the syringe, spray 3-6 times a day. Im not really sure how the lighting works. But, can i just do this until it looks like im ready for harvest? I know to keep the humidity and temp at a certain point.
And if anybody else has any information feel free to post. But once i get everything down, i plan to post pictures of my first harvest!
Edited by Tosh (06/21/12 09:10 PM)
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16417324 - 06/21/12 09:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Run a search for PF Tek Done Right. It'll walk you through every step of the way bro.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16417434 - 06/21/12 10:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very interesting, i actually read the terrarium Tek, then the PF tek, and noticed they are both used.
http://www.mushroomvideos.com/Terrarium-Tek
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11585613#11585613
these two links basically gave me all the info i need. Now i just need patients, money, and time. Btw i was wondering if i could just use those jars WITH the substrate in it? would it still be as effective? I also still need to figure out how to use a proper lighting system. Because ik different strains use different light? right?
I believe i have everything, if you have any more info i need to know.
thanks.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16417983 - 06/21/12 11:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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all varieties use the same light.
read mushroom strains, then read pf tek done right.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16417984 - 06/21/12 11:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey, check out Evil Mushroom's guide... I think this will give you SO MUCH specific info about every single step, you'll be able to tell which things you can salvage from the kit and which you can't. I used this guide and it worked great for me.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16418042 - 06/21/12 11:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Different strains do not have different lighting requirements. Cubensis prefers a bright fluorescent light in the 6500K frequency range. The light should be bright, but it need not be as bright as for growing plants, nor does the 12/12 have to be exact as with certain plants. If you have a bright east facing window, that is just as good as any light you can purchase.
I suggest watching the four brf tek videos and following them to the letter on your first grow At least 50,000 new growers have already done so, and most were successful on their very first attempt. Don't cut corners and don't obsess over humidity. If you build your shotgun fruiting chamber per the tek, your humidity will be correct. If you've missed the hygrometer thread that's currently active, the bottom line is don't buy a made in china hygrometer and then wonder why your terrarium isn't maintaining humidity.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16419373 - 06/22/12 08:34 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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"the bottom line is don't buy a made in china hygrometer and then wonder why your terrarium isn't maintaining humidity."
Did make lots of sense Rogerrabbit. Thanks for that reply. Iv looked into the BRF tek and have decided ill defintely go with that 
So the light should be on for 12 hours and off for 12 hours to be exact? And thanks magicmold ill be reading that also
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16419390 - 06/22/12 08:40 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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It doesnt have to be Exact, but as close as you can to 12/12.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: MagicalMold]
#16419753 - 06/22/12 10:14 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hey, check out Evil Mushroom's guide... I think this will give you SO MUCH specific info about every single step, you'll be able to tell which things you can salvage from the kit and which you can't. I used this guide and it worked great for me.
That's the most up to date compilation of the BRF Tek.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Wing]
#16422196 - 06/22/12 07:25 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I was thinking about using the substrate jars that already come with the kit. I dont see why not? if other why let my know.
I might also, use some of those kit jars, and make some other cakes BRF.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16422227 - 06/22/12 07:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've had great results with the BRF jars from midwest growkits. There's nothing wrong with them at all. It's their incubator and FC kit that's a heap of garbage.
Get a clear bin from walmart, make a SGFC and fruit your cakes in it, you'll thank yourself later bro, I know I did.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16422267 - 06/22/12 07:36 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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You should be *extreamly interested in the search function*
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16422286 - 06/22/12 07:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
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I've had great results with the BRF jars from midwest growkits. There's nothing wrong with them at all. It's their incubator and FC kit that's a heap of garbage.
Get a clear bin from walmart, make a SGFC and fruit your cakes in it, you'll thank yourself later bro, I know I did.
Thanks for the reply Deathryder, thats what i was looking for. All i gotta do is order some spores and ill be good. Oh yeah and i was planning to make the SGFC Thanks.
Ill definitely be back to post harvest pictures.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16422337 - 06/22/12 07:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well I did some reading a while back on the Midwest grow kits and they are supposed to be pre-sterilized jars. So yes, you should be able to buy a spore syringe and inject the spores directly into te jars as the TEK that is supposed to come with the kit says. I ended up making my own jars and kit which I think, in the end, will be more rewarding. The Midwest grow kits just seemed a bit sketchy to me.
Anyways, if te jars didn't get contaminated on the journey through shipping, you should be set to go. Follow the TEK provided, and of all goes well then awesome (= if not, buy your own materials and do it yourself. Make your own substrate jars and SGFC (Shot gun fruiting chamber).
Te TEK I'm following is "EvilMushroom666's Take on BRF Cakes," which can be foud simply by searching with "EvilMushroom666" in the search bar at the upper right.
Welcome to the forums, and I hope I and/or someone else has helped you (=
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Jake1715]
#16422433 - 06/22/12 08:13 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I can make 2 of their most expensive kits right now for like $40 MAX....so there
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Jake1715]
#16422445 - 06/22/12 08:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've had 0 contams with midwest grow kits jars and spawn bags. I've inoculated the jars with spores successfully and the bags with mycelium suspension with great results. They are a bit pricey, I've just used them to save some time and stock up on the jars for reuse. They pack the jars VERY well, just be sure to tighten the rings back down when they arrive as they can loosen during shipping. I just don't like their kits.
You'll get good results with their substrate, and it does make the learning curve easier when you can start with substrate that you KNOW without a doubt was prepared correctly.
Good luck bro, keep us updated!
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16427871 - 06/23/12 10:18 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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it does make the learning curve easier when you can start with substrate that you KNOW without a doubt was prepared correctly.
yeah the 2:1:1 ratio is hard to get juuuuuust right.
cmon man, wtf.
they are pint jars that you are paying a hundred dollars for?
if you want to stock up on jars, go to ace hardware.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: k00laid]
#16427877 - 06/23/12 10:20 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm talking about the sterilization procedure being done properly. And the price I pay for them is about 2 dollars more than the jars alone.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16427890 - 06/23/12 10:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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ace hardware 11.99 a dozen? what? cant be. HERE!
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16427907 - 06/23/12 10:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm talking about the sterilization procedure being done properly. And the price I pay for them is about 2 dollars more than the jars alone.
psssh, so you plug them cuz they give you deals.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: k00laid]
#16427920 - 06/23/12 10:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: k00laid]
#16427926 - 06/23/12 10:31 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm talking about the sterilization procedure being done properly. And the price I pay for them is about 2 dollars more than the jars alone.
psssh, so you plug them cuz they give you deals.
Why wouldn't I? If you were getting a good price from a vendor, wouldn't you plug them?
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I'm talking about the sterilization procedure being done properly. And the price I pay for them is about 2 dollars more than the jars alone.
psssh, so you plug them cuz they give you deals.
Why wouldn't I? If you were getting a good price from a vendor, wouldn't you plug them?
not unless they were a shroomery sponsor 
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: k00laid]
#16427935 - 06/23/12 10:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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hahaha
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A Tale of 10 Isolates, GT Cluster Clone Monotubs, RR's Let's Grow Mushrooms DVD,
SGFC(Shotgun Fruiting Chamber), Monotub Tek, Damion5050's Coir Tek, TL's Tek List, Frank's Tek List,
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: k00laid]
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I'm talking about the sterilization procedure being done properly. And the price I pay for them is about 2 dollars more than the jars alone.
psssh, so you plug them cuz they give you deals.
Why wouldn't I? If you were getting a good price from a vendor, wouldn't you plug them?
not unless they were a shroomery sponsor
Also, the OP already has the jars, I'm not telling anyone to order them, just commenting on my experience with them.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16429323 - 06/24/12 04:27 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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If you can bake cookies you can make PF jars.
And if you can't make cookies, you need to learn.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Doc_T]
#16429594 - 06/24/12 07:22 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Tosh, about a month ago I was in the same boat. I had a general idea on what to do but not specifics. I thought about buying a grow kit and asked about them here. I found out that its not really that the kits are over priced, it's that the trek they follow with the kits is outdated. You don't need an incubation chamber. You also don't need the humidifier and ait pump and all the other junk they include with the kits. After getting some good advice here and reading, reading, reading I decided to do everything myself.
About three weeks ago I ordered my spore syringes. While I waited for them to arrive I bought the supplies I needed to make the substrate jars. I prepared the jars according to the pf trek, and then my spores arrived. About 16 days ago I inoculated the jars and put them on a shelf. Since then I have bought the other supplies I need to finish. In fact, today I'm going to build my sgfc. I used 1/4 pint and 1/2 pint jars. The 1/4 pint jars will be ready to birth next week.
With the information and advice I have gotten from these forums I was able to do everything myself. The steps are very easy to follow and very easy to mess up. So just don't try to do things your own way at first. Follow the tek word for word and you will have success. Good luck and post some pics of your progress.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: The Ace Of Cakes]
#16429813 - 06/24/12 09:09 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh yes i plan to follow step by step exactly! Will be ordering spores soon, cant wait. Thanks for all the information.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16430040 - 06/24/12 10:02 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Also, i was wondering which spores i should examine first?
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16430053 - 06/24/12 10:04 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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A cube is a cube, pick one that you think looks cool and go for it! I will recommend Ecuador and Treasure Coast though since they're a couple of my favorites
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16430406 - 06/24/12 11:33 AM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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A cube is a cube, pick one that you think looks cool and go for it! I will recommend Ecuador and Treasure Coast though since they're a couple of my favorites
Unless its P.E.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: darkliight]
#16442065 - 06/26/12 06:30 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok urgent question. The substrate jars that came with the kit (which are the jars below
http://www.midwestgrowkits.com/substrate-jars.html
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can i use those just like the BRF cakes? like put them in my terrarium standing up and on some foil? like this...
Im not exactly sure what to do with these kinds of substrate jars.
But another thing..., i think the kit only comes with a small amout of perlite only able to fill the tub up with about 1 inch of perlite... will that still be ok using the SGFC tek?
Edited by Tosh (06/26/12 06:43 PM)
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16442608 - 06/26/12 08:26 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Buy another bag, or you'll have to be misting very often. The 4 inches of damp perlite is needed to get that RH up to where it belongs quickly after fanning. I like to make sure that the perlite is filled up past two rows of holes up the side of my SGFC .
Oh, sorry, I see your not using a SGFC, so I don't know. I recommend building one...
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheBot0nist]
#16443177 - 06/26/12 10:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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The midwestgrowkits substrate jars are BRF cakes. Get some more perlite, make an SGFC as per the tek and birth them onto foil just like in the picture. I've had very good results using their jars in a SGFC.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: TheDeathryder]
#16443258 - 06/26/12 10:46 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Wal-mart was like
and I was like
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: a social revolt]
#16443278 - 06/26/12 10:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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a social revolt said:
Wal-mart was like
and I was like
OMFG
i would have loaded up a cart.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: a social revolt]
#16443281 - 06/26/12 10:49 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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a social revolt said:
Wal-mart was like
and I was like
I stocked up as well... 
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: darkliight]
#16456542 - 06/29/12 03:15 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Iv had some premade substrate jars just chilling in my room... with holes in the and tin foil ontop for about 2 weeks now... and i had no idea that the substrate could possibly go bad.
I just ordered some spores, and i plan to incolinate them in about a week or so... do you guys think ill be ok?
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: Tosh]
#16457570 - 06/29/12 07:03 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Substrate can go bad if it sits too long.
It really depends on how long they were sitting un-inoculated, and if you notice any growth in the jars. With PF jars I normally inoculate as soon as they cool, I don't let them sit around for very long.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: darkliight]
#16457579 - 06/29/12 07:04 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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darkliight said:
Substrate can go bad if it sits too long.
It really depends on how long they were sitting un-inoculated, and if you notice any growth in the jars. With PF jars I normally inoculate as soon as they cool, I don't let them sit around for very long.
what about grain jars? WBS in particular.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: PussyFart]
#16457674 - 06/29/12 07:23 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Notahacker420 said:
what about grain jars? WBS in particular.
Hm, not sure on WBS as I have not used it on any grows yet. I prefer rye personally because I can get it dirt cheap at the health foods store in town. 
However, I have let my rye jars sit for a week or so and then inoculated them, with only 2 out of 7 jars contaminating. I think the longer you let it sit, the higher risk you have of getting a contamination.
What do I know though? It may be best to wait for someone with a bit more experience than myself to chime in. Although, if you were to use a refrigerator that would definitely extend the shelf life of your un-inoculated jars.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: darkliight]
#16457696 - 06/29/12 07:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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and also how do they sell kits with presterilized substrate...if they go bad? do they make the jars b4 every order or do they stock up and let it sit till ordered......Hmmmmmmmm....makes you think doesnt it?
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: PussyFart]
#16457725 - 06/29/12 07:35 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Notahacker420 said:
and also how do they sell kits with presterilized substrate...if they go bad? do they make the jars b4 every order or do they stock up and let it sit till ordered......Hmmmmmmmm....makes you think doesnt it?
Refrigeration probably.
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Re: *Extreamly Interested in The Shroomery Knowledge* [Re: darkliight]
#16458226 - 06/29/12 09:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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You can always steam pre-made jars for 90 minutes.
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