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Scumbag Palestinians (A non-bigoted title)
    #1641548 - 06/18/03 07:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Brave men deliberately killing a 7 year old.
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Gunmen Kill Israeli Girl After Truce Talk
7 minutes ago 

By MARK LAVIE, Associated Press Writer

JERUSALEM - Palestinian gunmen who crossed from the West Bank killed an Israeli girl and wounded her sister, just minutes after the Palestinian premier met with militant leaders and failed to persuade them to stop attacks.


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As part of a cease-fire package, Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas offered the militant Hamas a political role in his government, a participant in the Tuesday talks said, but no agreement was reached.


The shooting late Tuesday threatened to ignite another round of attacks and retaliation, further endangering the already wobbly U.S.-backed "road map" peace plan.


Secretary of State Colin Powell (news - web sites) is heading for the region over the weekend for high-level talks aimed at salvaging the peace plan, two weeks after President Bush (news - web sites) launched it at a summit in Jordan.


Violence has marred the intervening period, as efforts by Egyptian mediators and Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas to persuade militant groups to halt attacks against Israelis have so far not borne fruit. The meetings are to continue through the week, and Egypt plans to invite the various factions to Cairo to finalize an accord.


But the death of the girl in the shooting attack drew an Israeli threat of retaliation.


"The Palestinian Authority (news - web sites) is talking with everybody, is talking with the Hamas, is talking with the Americans, talking and talking and doing nothing in order to stop this bloodshed," Israeli spokesman Avi Pazner said. "If the Palestinian Authority continues to do nothing, we will take all appropriate action to make this bloodshed stop."


The shooting took place just inside Israel, close to the West Bank town of Qalqiliya. The military said gunmen used a water passage to get around a protective wall between the West Bank and a main north-south highway and opened fire on the car, carrying a family of eight. The assailant then escaped back into the town.


A 7-year-old girl, Noam Leibowitz, was killed, her 5-year-old sister seriously wounded. Two other family members, a child and grandfather, were slightly wounded, the military and rescue workers said. There was no immediate claim of responsibility.


The military imposed a curfew on Qalqiliya and searched for the gunmen.


The week after the June 4 launch of the "road map" plan for an end to bloodshed and creation of a Palestinian state by 2005 was marred by Israeli air strikes and a Hamas suicide bombing in Jerusalem, killing and wounding scores on both sides.


One failed helicopter strike last week targeted Abdel Aziz Rantisi, a Hamas leader. Hamed Haboush, 45, a bystander wounded during the attack, died Wednesday, the fourth person to die in the attack.


Until the highway ambush, however, there had been four days of relative calm.


Before the shooting, the outline of a truce deal was taking shape in the intensive talks in Gaza, but there was no guarantee that either the militants or Israel would agree to the elements.


Sources close to the talks said a key plank would be an Israeli pledge to stop killing militant leaders. Hamas and other violent groups also demanded Israel release thousands of Palestinian prisoners.


In exchange, the militants would declare a "hudna," the Arabic term for temporary cease-fire. Israelis charge that a hudna would allow militant groups to regroup and rearm.


Israel has been demanding that a cease-fire be the first step of a crackdown to dismantle the groups. Israel TV reported Tuesday that Israel would accept a cease-fire of three to six weeks. Israel officials were not available comment.

 



Abbas has said he would not order a crackdown, but prefers a voluntary cease-fire.

Abbas held three hours of talks late Tuesday in Gaza with militant leaders, but no accord emerged. Participants said talks would continue.

Ismail Abu Shanab of Hamas said Hamas leaders were "still discussing this subject within the movement and have not yet made a final decision."

Powell was headed to Israel on Friday to meet with top officials in a visit that proves the U.S. commitment to the peace plan, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom told Israel Radio.

Speaking on his way to Cambodia, Powell lent support Israel's demand for a crackdown.

Ultimately, Hamas and other terrorist organizations "will not only have to stop these terrorist attacks. We have to eliminate their capability to do so," he said. "We have to come down hard on organizations such as Hamas."

Also Tuesday, Palestinian security chief Mohammed Dahlan met with a senior Israeli defense official, Maj. Gen. Amos Gilad, Palestinian officials said. Israel Army Radio said they discussed an Israeli offer to turn security in parts of the Gaza Strip (news - web sites) over to the Palestinians.

Overnight, Israeli forces blew up the home of a fugitive with the militant Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades near the West Bank town of Nablus. The army said Salama was responsible for several attacks.

Israeli forces reinforced with tanks and bulldozers also destroyed four houses where 65 people lived in the Rafah refugee camp in Gaza, Palestinian security sources said. The army said it destroyed three abandoned buildings being used as a base for militants to plant explosives on the nearby Israeli-Egyptian border.`

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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641555 - 06/18/03 07:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Every palestinian is a scumbag? Are you out of your fucking mind?


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Xlea321]
    #1641558 - 06/18/03 07:18 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't see that part.


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641560 - 06/18/03 07:19 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That's pretty fucked up. But it's not like Israel hasn't killed any Palestinian children, let's get real here.


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1641568 - 06/18/03 07:29 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't see that part.

Look at the title of the post. Would you start a post about Timothy Mcveigh with "Scumbag Americans"?


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Xlea321]
    #1641575 - 06/18/03 07:36 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Alex123 said:
Every palestinian is a scumbag? Are you out of your fucking mind?



Alpo, Your comprehension skills shrink with each passing day.

Nowhere did I say EVERY Palestinian is a scumbag.

For example, if I was to call you a lying Englishman, how would that translate to every Englishman is a liar?

Answer: it wouldn't. It would be and would remain a comment on you and any other Englishmen (or women) who happen to lie.

In the same manner, Scumbag Palestinians was, and remains, a comment on those Palestinians who are scumbags, such as the ones in the story.

I should think that would be simple enough for even you to understand.
Or are you deliberately attempting to mislead?

EDIT: And since you appear to be even more obtuse than usual this morning, I'll point out this.....

A story about Palestinian GUNMEN = Palestinians.

A story about Mcveigh = American. (not Americans)

Your analogy is as poor as your mental skills.


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Edited by luvdemshrooms (06/18/03 07:42 AM)


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641596 - 06/18/03 07:50 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

It seems after every peace talk or peace negotiation that there's always an attack on Israel.

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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641597 - 06/18/03 07:51 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Backtracking again eh?  :grin:

A story about Palestinian GUNMEN = Palestinians.

Horseshit. Why didn't you head the post "Scumbag Palestinian Gunmen"? Your hateful prejudice against palestinians is clear with every post you've ever made.  Would you ever head a post "Scumbag Israelis" after they'd killed a child?

A story about Mcveigh = American. (not Americans)

Your logic is even more lacking than usual (and that's saying something). Mcveigh killed innocents, precisely as these palestinian gunmen have done. If you are to have any logical consistency whatsoever you would have to head a post about Mcveigh as "Scumbag Americans".
 


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641598 - 06/18/03 07:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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Nowhere did I say EVERY Palestinian is a scumbag.




You have to remember, he operates in Alexland which is located just north of never-never land.



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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1641600 - 06/18/03 07:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

hahahaha


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1641601 - 06/18/03 07:54 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Wherever one goes, the other follows  :grin:

Try thinking for yourself for a change. It'll do you good. 


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Xlea321]
    #1641605 - 06/18/03 07:58 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

i would settle for you just to think period.  That would make us all happy... :smirk:


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Xlea321]
    #1641609 - 06/18/03 08:04 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Could you be any number?

The point, which once again you missed, is that Americans is plural. A story about McVeigh would have to be American, not Americans.
ie: Scumbag American.

Since the story was about more than one gunman, it was Palestinians.

And once again, nowhere were all Palestinians called scumbags except in your mind.

You really need to get a better grasp of word skills and usage.

The only backtracking here would be in your parents ever admitting having coupled long enough to create you. After all, it must be embarrassing realizing that your son is a twit with little to no understanding of the written word. Of course it is possible that instead of you simply being obtuse, you're deliberately distorting what I wrote to suit your own twisted view of the world, Of course then your parents would still backtrack. I mean after all, who wants to admit their son is a compulsive liar?


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Xlea321]
    #1641611 - 06/18/03 08:06 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Would you ever head a post "Scumbag Israelis" after they'd killed a child?



If they crossed the border with the intent to seek out and kill a Palestinian civilian, and a child no less, yes I would.


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641647 - 06/18/03 08:53 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The point, which once again you missed, is that Americans is plural. A story about McVeigh would have to be American, not Americans.

There was more than one man involved in the Oklahoma bombing, it wasn't simply Mcveigh. Once again, your "point" goes straight down the toilet.

And once again, nowhere were all Palestinians called scumbags except in your mind.

Apart from the title that says "Scumbag Palestinians". I'm sorry but anyone with even a childs grasp of the english language cannot mistake that. If you'd said "Scumbag palestinian gunmen" you might have got away with it. As it is, if you post hateful prejudiced bullshit rest assured I'm gonna call you on it every single time.

The only backtracking here would be in your parents ever admitting having coupled long enough to create you.

Lose another argument and go back to the childish insults. No surprises there then.


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641652 - 06/18/03 08:57 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

If they crossed the border with the intent to seek out and kill a Palestinian civilian, and a child no less, yes I would.

"Ali Murad Abu Shaweesh was 12 when Israeli soldiers shot him in the back. Ali was killed on the same day in June, 2001 that Sharon refused to let the Israeli foreign minister, Shimon Peres, meet with Yasir Arafat, yet his death also went unnoticed by American television news. But not entirely unnoticed, since the Israeli soldiers, who taunted the Palestinian boys over loudspeakers outside the Khan Yunis refugee camp in the Gaza Strip, goading them to come out and throw rocks, did so under the gaze of Chris Hedges, a reporter for the New York Times.

"Children have been shot in other conflicts I have covered--death squads gunned them down in El Salvador and Guatemala, mothers with infants were lined up and massacred in Algeria, and Serb snipers put children in their sights...in Sarajevo--but I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport," Hedges wrote. His account, coolly factual yet full of passionate intensity, was written not for his own paper but for Harper's Magazine, which sent Hedges to Gaza on his vacation." The Nation, March 11, 2002

http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine46.html

We're all waiting for your post "Scumbag Israelis". Let me know when you've posted it.


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Xlea321]
    #1641659 - 06/18/03 09:08 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

There was more than one man involved in the Oklahoma bombing, it wasn't simply Mcveigh. Once again, your "point" goes straight down the toilet.


The only thing going down the toilet is what few brain cells remain in your posession. My statement on McVeigh was in direct response to this "Would you start a post about Timothy Mcveigh with "Scumbag Americans"? " I was pointing out to you that a post on McVeigh alone, as in your example, would not have an "s" at the end of the word American. Wake up Alpo.


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Apart from the title that says "Scumbag Palestinians".


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Alpo, those in the story are Palestinians, and they're Scumbags. I've dumbed this down as far as possible for you but there are no easier ways to explain it so as you feeble mind can grasp the concept.

{quote] I'm sorry but anyone with even a childs grasp of the english language cannot mistake that. If you'd said "Scumbag palestinian gunmen" you might have got away with it.



Alpo, since there's nothing to "get away with", your point, whatever it was meant to be, as are you, is irrelavent.


Quote:

As it is, if you post hateful prejudiced bullshit rest assured I'm gonna call you on it every single time.



As I've never posted "hateful prejudiced bullshit" here at all, you'll be waiting a long time. So continue distorting, fabricating and lying all you'd like. It matters only in your twisted mind.


Quote:

Lose another argument and go back to the childish insults. No surprises there then.



Since I didn't lose anything, your wrong yet again. Insults? Lets hear some more of the pot calling the kettle black. Or would you like me to do a little cut and paste work for you?


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Edited by luvdemshrooms (06/18/03 09:13 AM)


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: Xlea321]
    #1641663 - 06/18/03 09:10 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Alex123 said:
If they crossed the border with the intent to seek out and kill a Palestinian civilian, and a child no less, yes I would.

"Ali Murad Abu Shaweesh was 12 when Israeli soldiers shot him in the back. Ali was killed on the same day in June, 2001 that Sharon refused to let the Israeli foreign minister, Shimon Peres, meet with Yasir Arafat, yet his death also went unnoticed by American television news. But not entirely unnoticed, since the Israeli soldiers, who taunted the Palestinian boys over loudspeakers outside the Khan Yunis refugee camp in the Gaza Strip, goading them to come out and throw rocks, did so under the gaze of Chris Hedges, a reporter for the New York Times.

"Children have been shot in other conflicts I have covered--death squads gunned them down in El Salvador and Guatemala, mothers with infants were lined up and massacred in Algeria, and Serb snipers put children in their sights...in Sarajevo--but I have never before watched soldiers entice children like mice into a trap and murder them for sport," Hedges wrote. His account, coolly factual yet full of passionate intensity, was written not for his own paper but for Harper's Magazine, which sent Hedges to Gaza on his vacation." The Nation, March 11, 2002

http://www.hoffman-info.com/palestine46.html

We're all waiting for your post "Scumbag Israelis". Let me know when you've posted it.



That's just as sad and those who did it were / are scumbags as well.


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641673 - 06/18/03 09:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Alpo, those in the story are Palestinians, and they're Scumbags

There are scumbags of every nationality on earth. Why pick the palestinian ones? Your "argument" is the typical ruse every prejudiced scum from the KKK to the neo-nazi's use.

As I've never posted "hateful prejudiced bullshit" here at all

You've posted it. You just havn't got away with it. Much to your annoyance.

Insults? Lets hear some more of the pot calling the kettle black.

Tell you what. Stick to making points about Israel and Palestine instead of my parents. Rest assured I have no interest in responding to the childish shit you insist on posting whenever you see my name. Challenge yourself. If you can do it, there won't be another insult from me. Deal?


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Re: Scumbag Palestinians [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1641676 - 06/18/03 09:23 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That's just as sad and those who did it were / are scumbags as well.

You're making progress!  :laugh:

Tho of course neither justifies a post like "Scumbag Palestinians" or "Scumbag Israelis". There are bad and good in every race. 


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