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Kawan
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 lophophora williamsii varieties list. 
#16414328 - 06/21/12 12:49 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hello I want to make a list of al the varieties off lophophora's.
Offcource you got the main species.
fricii, koehresii, williamsii and difusa
but I red somewhere l. williamsii also has about 50 varieties like.
fricii var
fricii
albiflora
Siera zavaleta
koehresii var
koehresii
encarnacion
morita
paloma
san bartelo
san francisco
l.williamsii var
williamsii
huizache
san aantonio
quatracinegas
pluricostata
pentagona
ceaspitosa
paila
terocote
reynosa
el retiro
ramos arizpe
siera santa rosa
villa arista
weisse bluete
san roberto
la pa
albiflora
bernalecho
big bend
camargo
caranza
cardona
cedral
cruses
decipiens
jourdania
durango
el amparo
el hundido
el milagro de guadelupe
el oso
el retiro
el catorce
est marte
hipolito mountainform
hipolito
icamole
la casita
la paloma
la popa
las coloradas
mazapil
menchaca
minas
moctezuma
nueve yucatan
ocampo
parras
puerto sigala
ramos arizpe
refugio
reynosa
rinconada
saltilo monclova
san tubirccio
sandia el grande
santa rosa
mencheca
villa arista
villa carcia
now I know that a lot of dealers make up there own varieties so they can sell them but i think these are al real varieties.
if someone has something to ad or delete please reply
thank you
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kadakuda
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Re: lophophora williamsii varieties list. [Re: plant-paradise]
#16423895 - 06/23/12 01:59 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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The biggest problem with this sort of thing is that people dont really think abotu distinguishing a variety from other lower rankings. most of those are locations, not varieties, but then some locations are actaulyl different and could be considered a variety or a form.
for actual forms/variety they all have variegated, crested and monstrose. each of the 4 main species except i personally never saw a crested koehresii yet.
there are locales that would be considered varieties or forms, maybe sub-species, but im not the person to ask about that.
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Jessamyn777
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 Re: lophophora williamsii varieties list. [Re: plant-paradise]
#25920054 - 04/06/19 07:33 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Huizache, hundido, soledad, decipiens or caesipitose? Which has best trip? Highest mescaline? And what is best size/age?
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 Jooceman
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Re: lophophora williamsii varieties list. [Re: Jessamyn777]
#25920159 - 04/06/19 08:38 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Congratulations you just brought a 6 year old thread back from the dead for no reason... Welcome to the shroomery! Next time make sure you don't do that, it's frowned upon.
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Jessamyn777
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Re: lophophora williamsii varieties list. [Re: Jooceman]
#25921011 - 04/07/19 10:05 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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Apologies. I am very new. Not sure how to start a thread. I have questions.
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Yonatin
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Re: lophophora williamsii varieties list. [Re: Jessamyn777]
#25921042 - 04/07/19 10:27 AM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm sure it was a mistake, he is new and that stuff happens. When you are on the main Ethnobotanical page in the top right corner it says "post" you just click that and go from there. Welcome.
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Solipsis
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Re: lophophora williamsii varieties list. [Re: Yonatin]
#25921355 - 04/07/19 01:24 PM (5 years, 7 months ago) |
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There are a few ways Lophs seem to be categorized and it can be a little confusing, partially because some of the naming is old.
Often indeed they are locales and it is just where they were found. To me it's vague what warrants calling one a variety, so I am fine with any extra details given working as a variety, but it may be pointless differentiation.
The forms seem to be divided up in for example caespitose for clustering / heavily pupping and decipiens is a form that doesn't really seem to have ribs but rather 'bumps' apparently. Then there is pentacosta which has 5 ribs and pluricostata has (many) more ribs, and for some reason Texan ones seem to have been given a category but I don't understand.
AFAIK a certain specimen can both have a locality label and rib number/pattern label at the same time.
Certain other species might be certain kinds of hybrids.
Edited by Solipsis (04/07/19 01:26 PM)
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