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Ololiuhqui--Rivea corymbosa (L.) Hall. fil.*
    #1639546 - 06/17/03 02:01 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Apparently 4-6 seeds contains approx. the same amount of LSA as 10 HBWR!!!

Never heard of this before....got 5 seeds to plant yesterday...
Im going to post information as i come across it over the next few days.., if anyone else know something about it, grown it, or knows a good info page, please contribute...

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Re: Ololiuhqui--Rivea corymbosa (L.) Hall. fil.* [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1650394 - 06/21/03 07:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

the subject aquired 10 seeds of rivea corymbosa from a local supplier.

one seed was coarsely crushed with a teaspoon, the crumbs were poured into a glas of water. the glas was kept in a dark place for about 25 minutes, occasionally stirred. the water was filtered through a coffee - filter.

the end product was sipped over a timespan of around 45 minutes. the water was held in the mouth for some time before swallowing.

this amount (1 seed, water - extracted with mediocre efficiency) produced noticeable, albeit not very dramatic psychotropic as well as peripheral effects (hands seemed a bit numbed, maybe just an illusion).

the psychological effects are hard to be put into words, since they were quite subtle. it did have a little spiritual tonality to it.

anyway, these tiny seeds seemed to be equipotent with the argyreia - nervosa seeds i have tried. i must confess, however, that i have always employed very small amounts of a. nervosa (again, 1 - 2 seeds, cold water extraction for 10 minutes). this is because i am somewhat distrustful about the safety of LSAs for entheogenic purposes. rereading the abstracts dealing with ergonovin/ergometrin (probably the main active compound in these seeds) at PUBMED confirmed my cautious approach to these substances...


conclusion: the seeds of rivea corymbosa (the 'real' ololiuqui) should be consumed in the order of magnitude of 1 to 10 seeds, not in hundreds, like some sources state. some ethnobotanical fieldwork in the regions where ololiuqui is still used, as well as chemical analysis with modern techniques is needed to shed some light on this mysterious plant.

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