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cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek]
    #16206694 - 05/09/12 07:58 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

so, i had bit of spare dried cactus powder, which i made from several plants i had before moving out
i decided to try something new, for a couple reasons - 1) why not 2) not a big loss if it doesn't work 3) trying alternative heating/separation method

this is probably the most time i have ever spent on trying a basic extraction from san pedro, and maybe the 3rd time i've tried it using dried powder, and the effort put it was probably more than what the result will be worth, but whatever.



it goes like this:

-300 grams dried powder placed into steel pressure cooker

-plain tap water added; enough that there was room to allow some decent convection while cooking

-cooked in PC for 15-30 minutes

-filtered liquid into a 60/40 polyester/cotton shirt

-cactus mass was then filtered further using a french press & coffee filter (rather slowly i might add)

-repeated 3 times combining liquid from each pull

-4th time around concentrated lime juice was added as an aid for the last attempt to get anything out

-the liquid was then refrigerated for a few days out of inconvenience, but also to allow the plant matter (sediment/fats?) to fall to the bottom of the container

-siphoned the liquid from the container to separate from plant matter

-total amount of liquid was then cooked to reduce volume... perhaps only by 50%


now... here comes the microwave... (*GASP*)

-placed collected plant matter which dropped to the bottom of the container and evaporated with the microwave. after a while this was very easy to scrape up as it was a dry-ish powdery substance, not sticky at all.

-placed small amount of liquid in microwavable glass dish and cooked in attempt to reduce volume. i tried this a couple of times, and wound up scraping up some more-crude kind of resin/tar (still containing some plant matter)

-did the same thing again with some more liquid, but this time around i cooked for too long.

-placed larger amount of liquid in same dish and cooked on low power for longer time (and here and there with higher power/shorter time). after doing this a couple of times i noticed that it appeared more plant matter started to coagulate and drop towards the bottom of the dish. the brownish cleaner looking liquid stayed at the top.

-siphoned (small plastic syringe) up the top brown layer and separated

-combined all of the cleaner brown liquid for reduction later, from the various microwavings and separations

-microwaved to evaporate further and lastly poured onto large glass top from coffee table

-this was scraped up to create the nice looking dark brown crystally resin





now, for some pics:

combined first 3 pulls on the left, last pull w/ lime juice on the right


after reducing the last pull some...


some sediment at the bottom of the PC


sediment which had fallen to the bottom after several days


evaporating the plant matter


coagulation taking place


before siphoning top layer


after siphoning


after cooking (maybe a bit too long)


scrapin up


afterwards


after pouring a large portion out to be evaporated


lookin nice



final product:

right top - plant matter (38g)
right middle - overcooked unseparated resin (25.9g)
right bottom - unseparated resin (in better shape) (17.8)

left side - all the combined separated brown produced this (65.7g)





combined mass: 147.4g --- any comments ?  considering that came from filtering out 300g to start with it seems pretty decent

this material has yet to be tested, so hold on to your butts for some results, especially for those curious about whether or not prolonged microwaving would destroy the goodies





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Edited by islanduniverse (05/09/12 08:51 PM)

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [Re: islanduniverse]
    #16206721 - 05/09/12 08:02 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I don't think it will ruin it. It seems I remember a shroomerite I know posting about using the microwave to reduce it.


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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [Re: nicechrisman]
    #16207683 - 05/09/12 10:40 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

well that's encouraging =)

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: islanduniverse]
    #16207922 - 05/09/12 11:38 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Keep us posted, thanks a mil for the share

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: billyrubin]
    #16270707 - 05/22/12 10:56 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

update:

in that last pic, the right side mid and bottom were combined and cleaned up separating the plant material that was first left in there.

so it has been completed, and there is 77.7g pulled out from the initial 300g

i'm thinking that's a good sign


back with results in a week or so

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: islanduniverse]
    #16389105 - 06/16/12 06:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago)

So you tested it yet mate?

I am curious as I don't have a cooker at the moment, and I have some dried P. Torch I want to brew up in the microwave.

Also, what do you estimate the mescaline content percentage wise, in those finished powders you have?

Thankyou in advance.


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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: SoapsGoinOnAtriP]
    #16390121 - 06/16/12 12:59 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

alright, so here's the problem - somehow misplaced one of the containers and ended up prepping about 80g total, split w/ a friend. i think i can say that it was the weakest batch i've ever tried. so essentially i had resin made from about 100g and it was utterly weak. i think i will not be attempting any kind of cactus tea/resin brews again, and i will stick to more fresh methods. i've previously ingested about 65g of capsuled powder from the same plant, and even having puked 2 or so hours in it was actually effective. this microwave attempt rendered everything useless, but i still had the same day long fatigue throughout my body and eyes. i couldn't give an estimate but i'd put it at near zero. i think an equivalent weight of the brown resin/powder above would be weaker than the same weight in plain powder.

for example, next time i have fresh cactus on hand i'll try: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15805087#15805087

i'm sure many people will recommend you make a tea from your torch powder, and that might be just fine, but i would avoid using the microwave, just stick to the other methods of cooking on a low heat for some time. you might try taking capsules of it since it probably requires a smaller amount than pedro. you might end up puking as i did, however after the puking i really felt fantastic. i wonder if i held it down longer if it would have been stronger.

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: islanduniverse]
    #16390160 - 06/16/12 01:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Great expirementing man! This brought up something I've been meaning to ask for sometime now.

How do you powder your own cactus? I have some Pedro I want to powder but haven't seen any type of tek or anything for it

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16390193 - 06/16/12 01:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

This whole thread is fucking disrespectful to the cactus.  Bad trips and violent vomiting are the certain punishment.  There is a shaman somewhere with a tear running down his face.


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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: joemolloy]
    #16390201 - 06/16/12 01:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Huh? What's going on Joe?

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16390258 - 06/16/12 01:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

joe believes that if you are going to indulge in the cactus, you must stick to the traditional preparation methods. and then you must also endure the violent purging it may cause (tho i never puked on tea)

we don't need any of that cactus elitism in here!

i was just trying out something ... and though unsuccessful, more knowledge of preps/etc has been gained

i think what most interested me during this process was the separation of plant material, but clearly not without a major drawback causing a failure in short

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: islanduniverse]
    #16390339 - 06/16/12 02:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Nah, I'm just being a wise ass.

Peter, chop your cactus into tiny pieces and then place a fan over the mess.  It'll dry into chips.  Sometimes you have to chop them up smaller after a few hours under the fan.  It can take a few days.


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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: joemolloy]
    #16392433 - 06/16/12 10:53 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Ahhh shit just noticed you answered my question here :stanhopefacepalm:

Do you chop it up whole or skin it?

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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: PeterPanda209]
    #16392505 - 06/16/12 11:11 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Chop up the whole thing, I never skin.  If its a very fat cutting, sometimes I'll remove the core but usually keep it.


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Re: cooking san pedro in the microwave [experimental tek] [Re: joemolloy]
    #16392514 - 06/16/12 11:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago)

Would a dehydrator get to hot? Always thought peoplel might use that but fan makes sense
I wish I could find more information on it so I didn't have to ask lol

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