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 ricky
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 Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? 
#1638732 - 06/17/03 01:10 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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hello everyone. i'm new here..i live in central florida (melbourne), any others here? (send me a pm)..here's my problem: i've read on the internet a hundred times that psilocybe cubensis grows on both cow and horse manure. i know a little park (that's public) that is littered with horse patties..so i'm thinking i'm in luck. then a few friends say they heard that cubensis found growing on horse manure is not potent (doesn't "work" in getting you high). can anyone clarify this?
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ricky]
#1638753 - 06/17/03 01:19 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's in the genetics of Psilocybe cubensis to produce psilocybin. What kind of manure it grows from shouldn't make any difference(not any noticable difference, at least). They really favor cow manure the most but it's definately not impossible to find them on horse manure.
Just a quick tip: read the new forum rules thread... Could save you and me some trouble in the future(you vaguely asked for a hunting partner).
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ricky
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Gumby]
#1638763 - 06/17/03 01:25 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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i didn't ask "for a hunting partner", i just wanted to see if there was anyone else on here located in my area. thank you for replying, and sorry if i broke a rule..
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Gumby
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ricky]
#1638781 - 06/17/03 01:34 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I never said you did... It was a vague reference that could be construed as asking for a hunting partner.
Perhaps I'm just over analyzing things.
It's probably all that crack that I've been smoking 
Don't worry about it 
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ricky
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Gumby]
#1638805 - 06/17/03 01:48 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha. it's all good man. is it very hard to come by p. cubensis growing on horse dung? has anyone on here seen/picked p. cubensis growing on horse manure? you said it's not impossible..but that kind of makes me think you're implying that it's slightly rare to see them on horse dung. i don't see why they wouldn't..thanks again!
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ricky]
#1638811 - 06/17/03 01:53 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes its not unheard of but not common. for about every 20 or so posts here about cubes 1 might be someone finding them on horse dung. if you do a search there should be some pictures and all that. happy hunting. peace
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ricky]
#1638812 - 06/17/03 01:55 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well yeah, it's a fairly rare site to see. I have seen it before, though. LizardKing(used to be hunting forum mod) has found them growing from horse dung on several occasion. I also believe Remy has found them growing from horse dung in the Atlanta area.
If you're in Florida I'd say you'd have a decent chance of finding them in horse dung. It's surely worth a try.
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ricky]
#1638819 - 06/17/03 01:59 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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The reason why they are rarely seen growing off horse dung is due to horses digestive systems which differ from cows. You see cows have multiple stomachs and there stomachs dont utilize stomach acids so when they graze they are also inturn eating spores. When the spores pass through their stomachs they germinate. Then when the cows takes a dump the spores also come out. Now they are germinated and have a bunch of shit to thrive off of. I guess horses have stomach acid that kills most of the spores. However I always thought that horses didnt have that good of digestive systems and that was why horse poo is used more often in indoor cultivation than cow poo. I thought this because it you look at horse poo it contains more grassy straw stuff in it than cow shit. I hope i made sense.
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: bugabuga420]
#1638914 - 06/17/03 03:00 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Most Cubensis grow from spores deposited on the grass and then the manure falls on the grass.
Of course, cows do eat fresh shrooms thus inthat way they also spred the sopres into a manure pile when shitiing which as mention above is one method of dispersal, but most come from spores on the grasses the cows eat. ANd from shrooms they consume when grazing.
mj
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: mjshroomer]
#1638998 - 06/17/03 04:54 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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do you think the cows get high
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Lizard King
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Dobie]
#1639224 - 06/17/03 08:31 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've found them in horse dung before in a field here in the ATL area. More interestingly I've also found them growing VERY prolifically on stable shavings and small amounts of horse manure mixed together in a big heap outside a stable. These were by far!!!!!!! the most potent cubensis I ever consumed. Though I would speculate this had more to do with location and conditions these mushrooms were growing in, not the type of dung.
LK,
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ricky]
#1639276 - 06/17/03 09:07 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here are some pics of horse dung cubes, the first two are from a horse pasture near my house, and the last 3 pics are from the woodshaving pile outside a nearby stable. The woodshaving cubes were dug up when found and no apparent dung was found directly underneath. I am sure there was a piece of colonized horse dung somehwere in that pile, but it spawned to the fresh damp wood shavings and the mycelium spread through it like wildfire!
LK,
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Edited by Lizard King (06/17/03 09:16 AM)
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 Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1639288 - 06/17/03 09:13 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey I'm from Orlando but I have shrooming buddies in melbourne ;-) I board my horse at a show stable and I have never found cubes out there. I found one pan subb out there. I'm always on the looking out though...but if you are just going to random fields I would definately reccomend hunting some cow pastures instead. It's great conditions out there right now! Good luck!
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ricky]
#1639292 - 06/17/03 09:14 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
then a few friends say they heard that cubensis found growing on horse manure is not potent (doesn't "work" in getting you high). can anyone clarify this?
Bollocks. Of course, Ps. Cub. specimen vary in potency, but all cubbies contain psiloc(yb)in, so they will get you high. As GumbyDude stated, the production of active alkalo?ds in Ps. Cubensis is genetically decided.
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Lizard King
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: ScubySnak420]
#1639404 - 06/17/03 10:31 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, cow pastures are still a better bet, but if you have access to a field and just love to hunt like I do, its definitely worth investigating the field.
LK,
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1639542 - 06/17/03 11:58 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow those are neat P. cubensis pictures. they look much different when growing from horse dung etc.
i have never found them growing in horse dung but then again i have not been to that many horse farms. only a couple, and all ive found there were Panaeolus species.
maybe somebody had an outdoor tek going in your find 
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ricky
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: MagmaManiac]
#1639656 - 06/17/03 12:48 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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ScubySnak420,
hey girl  ) the problem is that all of the cow fields around here are private property (as i'm sure is the case with most cow fields) and rather hard to access. i don't want to entertain the thought of getting shot by the rifle of some hillbilly farmer..
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Lizard King
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: MagmaManiac]
#1639672 - 06/17/03 12:54 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Naw, these weren't cultivated, I know this for sure. They were found at a rather famous local horse park. I asked one of the attendants where they dumped all the horse droppings and used bedding once their manure pitts filled up. He kindly told me where to go and said I could take as much as I wanted for my garden(this was my excuse for asking) For two years I picked Ps. cubensis from this location, then some front end loaders came in and started giving away the compost to the public and loading all kinda of dump trucks with my cubensis patch  They were wild cubes though, and damn nice ones! I have heard of people in florida finding them in stable shavings as well, so this isn't an all to uncommon occurance. It was kinda of suprising to me though at first. I couldn't believe the were growing from wood shavings, but they are some very hardy and persistant mushrooms. There was also horse dung mixed with the shavings, but its was far and inbetween, there wasn't much, and I never found a cube in actual hosre dung in this location, only in the wood shavings.
I also found some Panaeolus camanulatus(sp?) and other various Pans growing from the shavings, I don't think someone would take the time to create and outdoor patch of inactive pans
Heres a pic...
LK,
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Edited by Lizard King (06/17/03 01:00 PM)
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1639732 - 06/17/03 01:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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> More interestingly I've also found them growing VERY prolifically on stable shavings and small amounts of horse manure mixed together in a big heap outside a stable. These were by far!!!!!!! the most potent cubensis I ever consumed.
I agree... VERY potent.
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Lizard King
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Gumby]
#1640063 - 06/17/03 03:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was going to add..."just ask gumby about potency" He'll tell ya!
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1640468 - 06/17/03 07:17 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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liz did you ever read my pm
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1641666 - 06/18/03 07:13 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I went out last night, and didn't find much on the horse dung, but i didid find alot of small shrooms of some kind, when i say small i mean real small, but they bruised blue, and were probably the total size of a basketball air needle including the screw in part. I decided not to eat them though, Iam thinking of going back to collect the dung so i can grow them bigger to see if they are cubes.aight layta.
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: jackgreen]
#1641939 - 06/18/03 09:59 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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wow, Panaeolus looks really wierd when growing out of shavings. almost like they were cut and pasted onto the picture. that looks really cool.
a local horse farm has a ton of these shaving spread in an area. a lot of grass is found growing through them and maybe a bit of horse dung. a lot of pans and mycenas grew in that area in the spring.
man its pouring outside.
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Lizard King
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: MagmaManiac]
#1642107 - 06/18/03 11:14 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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What they fuck ever, man, why do I always get picked on? Why are my finds so unbelieveable?
I swear to god that picture is not messed with at al!!!!
Do I need to zoom in on the actual rhizomorphs and spore deposits on the wood shavings to prove these mushrooms are really growing there??? Come on man, like I care that much that I'd edit my pics to lie to you? I swear on the entire earth and everything on it those pics are 100% original.
Its people like you that make me wish I had never came to the shroomery 5 years ago, never shared weilii with any of you, or my new species, or took so many people from these boards to my patches(who I now catch in my patch picking without permission), gave them free mushrooms and helped them find their own patches. Why do I help and share so much with people who call me a liar? Sometimes I forget why.
You people amaze me.
LK,
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Edited by Lizard King (06/18/03 11:16 AM)
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1642146 - 06/18/03 11:35 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lizard King,
I have been in a pasture where the farmer made dozens of little 'beds' for the cows with woodchips almost like what you have there in your pictures.
The farmer was cool enough to lay the beds of woodchips convieniently located along the tree line. Probably so the cows and the shrooms could have the shade they need to be happy.
The Cubensis made a mycelial mat through the bed
-a lot of the beds were infested with other species too.
Nothing like what you have shown in those pictures though.
-It wasn't as hairy looking as in your pictures, but i have seen it happen.
It is not that people don't believe your finds,
It is that your finds themselves are unbelieveable.
You are an incredibly lucky bastard.
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1642149 - 06/18/03 11:37 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey calm down there champ, he was just saying the pans look amazing growing outta wood chips. Reread his post and I'm sure you will see what he really meant.. hint: It wasn't meant to be offensive, quite obviously
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: GGreatOne234]
#1642158 - 06/18/03 11:41 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Heres some more pics of the fake woodshavings and mushrooms for folks to poke fun at, overanaylise and make false comments. Have at it...
LK,
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1642167 - 06/18/03 11:45 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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those are OBVIOUSLY fakes. Pfft nice try
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1642174 - 06/18/03 11:47 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats not the way I read it, I took it as sarcasim. Maybe I was wrong and if so I apologize, but I have been called a liar so many times since my return here, I have about had it. Every goddamn picture I post someone calls it bullshit.
I am also a bit on edge because I have caught 5 different people in the past 3 months picking in my patches without permission, people who frequent these boards and who shall remain nameless for the time being. I always tell anyone who I take to my patches if you want to pick, just give me a call, all I want is pics and a few nice caps to print, I don;t really consume much of my finds anymore, so the mushrooms don't mean much to me in that aspect. If I am too busy to pick I give permission to pick my patch anyways since I generally trust who I show my patch to to pick responsibly. Yet they still find a reason to go behind my back and steal from my patch.
Anyways, if I have over-reacted, I am 100% sincerly sorry, and please don't take my words personal, magmamanic. If its the other way around, then screw you and the horse you rode in on.
LK,
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1642246 - 06/18/03 12:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1642262 - 06/18/03 12:30 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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I for one do not think you ovr reacted. There are as you know, creeps and idiots who frequent these boards.
I too have bitched about people who I took or people who followed me around and then come into my private patches, klike at friends homes who let me seed their garden with P. cyanescens. And then they sneak back and steal your crop.
When I take people I meet, whether from the shroomery or just meet, every year a few of them go back and rip me off.
As I noted in orther posts, I take a few people every year. When I do I always give them a special place they can return to on their own with no problem and then I ask them not to go here or there. And I do not always take e eryone to all of my patches.
Yet they still find a way to go back when I am not there.
Like LK, I have seen some of these assholes who did so.
Like when i went to thailand last fall and took someone picking right before I left.
While in Thaialnd this person from Bellevue posted some images of the lawns I took him to, mentioning that I took him there and actually posted the name fo the street where this patch of P. stuntzii's where.
After he went there several times, the managers of the apratment complex issued warning posters that pickers would be watched and police would be called.
So Hey everyone. Try to give LK some respect. He does not doctort his pictures and he knowns what he is picking.
and to sit here and say he doctored his photos or they are fake is an asshole thing to do with someone who spends his valuable time posting here information for all of you.
mhj
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: mjshroomer]
#1642304 - 06/18/03 12:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: Lizard King]
#1643184 - 06/18/03 11:21 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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been pickin for about 10 years only found p.cube in horse shit once.
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: blaze2]
#10946164 - 08/27/09 01:55 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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I read an article saying that if the mammal is grain-fed that its a possibility so go fig..
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: cubensis1eter1]
#10946598 - 08/27/09 05:17 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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whew, caught this thread just in the nick of time.
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: masspan]
#10946651 - 08/27/09 05:43 AM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's always great to stay up to date with the latest news, isn't it?
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Re: Central Florida/Cubensis/Horse Manure? [Re: cubensis1eter1]
#10947948 - 08/27/09 12:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
cubensis1eter1 said:
I read an article saying that if the mammal is grain-fed that its a possibility so go fig..
THREAD IS 6 years old!
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