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freedomfighter91
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Nutrient misting 1
#16375361 - 06/13/12 09:06 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Does anyone know if there is a nutrient ratio that would be beneficial for mushroom cakes? I have a theory that soaking the cakes in a diluted N-P-K solution would increase fruiting and possibly lead to extra fruiting and better looking caps. IF this or misting cakes with a nutrient solution would be beneficial in any way, it would be helpful if someone knew the nutrient ratios that would work for such an application
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RogerRabbit
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This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.
Reason: Not an advanced mycology topic.
Your idea would work excellent. . .if mushrooms were plants and not fungi. Our mushroom mycelium eats solid food. RR
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16382156 - 06/14/12 05:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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It would just harbor contams and not be beneficial to the mushrooms. Myc doesn't work like that.
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: nastos]
#16382293 - 06/14/12 06:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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nastos said: It would just harbor contams and not be beneficial to the mushrooms. Myc doesn't work like that.
I agree, you're just adding nutrients for mold and bacteria.
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: nastos]
#16382296 - 06/14/12 06:15 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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hmmmm but wait
lets say you misted nutrients (cellulose etc.)in theory.......... i assume cellulose isnt water soluble seeing as its the structure part of plants and it retains water inside those cellsthen the mycelium would secrete its enzymes break down the "food" and absorb the free energy
ok and now get off of nutrients cause thats why you put then in a substrate
but what about misting trace minerals and ?vitamins? on the fruits/substrate
and my last rambling thought.
misting with O2 saturated water allowing for better respiration
crazy yungins an dem radical idears
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: senorcafe]
#16382315 - 06/14/12 06:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh an i forgot to mention........
i put a table spoon of all pupose organic derived plant food into a gallon of water for mycoir for a tub. no significant diff in grow, id say the bugger turned out smaller than usual
spore to grain to grain to coir/verm (same as the tub i did before withought plant food) i didnt eat them either just a little observation expirement, maybe you want to do 25 tubs or trays with controlls and a monoculture
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: senorcafe]
#16382444 - 06/14/12 06:51 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Do not spray substrate with nutrient water. This will only cause substrate to contaminate.
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: Project]
#16382556 - 06/14/12 07:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wonder what part of fungi are not plants is still not understood? 
Feeding your mushrooms chemical fertilizer makes about as much sense as you drinking a big ol' glass of miracle grow. RR
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16382603 - 06/14/12 07:35 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's true, Fungus is more closely related to humans than we are to plants, just sayin.
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: senorcafe]
#16383201 - 06/14/12 10:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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freedomfighter91 said: Does anyone know if there is a nutrient ratio that would be beneficial for mushroom cakes? I have a theory that soaking the cakes in a diluted N-P-K solution would increase fruiting and possibly lead to extra fruiting and better looking caps. IF this or misting cakes with a nutrient solution would be beneficial in any way, it would be helpful if someone knew the nutrient ratios that would work for such an application
 No, it will not be beneficial.
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senorcafe said: hmmmm but wait
lets say you misted nutrients (cellulose etc.) in theory.......... i assume cellulose isnt water soluble seeing as its the structure part of plants and it retains water inside those cells then the mycelium would secrete its enzymes break down the "food" and absorb the free energy
ok and now get off of nutrients cause thats why you put then in a substrate
but what about misting trace minerals and ?vitamins? on the fruits/substrate
and my last rambling thought.
misting with O2 saturated water allowing for better respiration
Sounds great, too bad it's completely untrue  Just because it makes sense in your head doesn't mean it works like that.
Edited by FrankHorrigan (06/14/12 11:35 PM)
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Yeah, if mushrooms were like plants it'd be easier to grow them. 
Not that growing mushrooms isn't easy enough.
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Edited by Elftastic (06/14/12 10:37 PM)
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senorcafe


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FrankHorrigan said:
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freedomfighter91 said: Does anyone know if there is a nutrient ratio that would be beneficial for mushroom cakes? I have a theory that soaking the cakes in a diluted N-P-K solution would increase fruiting and possibly lead to extra fruiting and better looking caps. IF this or misting cakes with a nutrient solution would be beneficial in any way, it would be helpful if someone knew the nutrient ratios that would work for such an application
 No, it will not be beneficial.
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senorcafe said: hmmmm but wait
lets say you misted nutrients (cellulose etc.) in theory.......... i assume cellulose isnt water soluble seeing as its the structure part of plants and it retains water inside those cells then the mycelium would secrete its enzymes break down the "food" and absorb the free energy
ok and now get off of nutrients cause thats why you put then in a substrate
but what about misting trace minerals and ?vitamins? on the fruits/substrate
and my last rambling thought.
misting with O2 saturated water allowing for better respiration
Sounds great, too bad it's completely untrue  Just because it makes sense in your head doesn't mean it works like that.
yea yea yea, the first two are erroneous, but the O2 i feel would in fact be benificial, unless they dont exchange air a lot, and its the below substarte gass concentrations? why would FAE be so important then
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FrankHorrigan
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Re: Nutrient misting (moved) [Re: senorcafe]
#16389764 - 06/16/12 11:14 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Give it a shot, let us know how that goes
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