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Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch
    #1637673 - 06/16/03 04:49 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This shroom was found a foot or 2 from afoaf's outdoor patch. His outdoor patch consists of lipa yai spawn, and stable waste, (sawdust, straw, and of course horse poo)
cased with soil. He went to water it this morning, cuz pins are poppin, and found this lil guy. Can anyone tell me what it is? Looks like a pan sub to me, but my eyes are VERY untrained in this section of mycology.

Cap


Gills


The money shot


Anyway.. any help in identification would be great.


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: Floydseamus]
    #1637993 - 06/16/03 06:56 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

spore print?

/me wonders to myself: does anyone here read the sticky threads in this forum?!


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #1638303 - 06/16/03 09:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I would say pan sub, due to the color of gills, but thats a hypothesis... anyways, anyone?


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: tranced2]
    #1638640 - 06/17/03 12:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

could a be subb although the stem is somewhat thin and brittle for that. it almost make me say no.

the specimen appears very water-logged with faded colors etc. although some girdling of the cap is present. it is reminiscent of other panaeolus species too such as P. campanulatus and related species.

is there ANY bluing at all (mycelium or bottom of stem) ?


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: MagmaManiac]
    #1639467 - 06/17/03 01:03 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

The blueing at the bottom of the stem is like 1/1000 chance, what color pring?


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: tranced2]
    #1640189 - 06/17/03 06:39 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yes, print color is key in I.D.ing wild mushrooms.


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: Floydseamus]
    #1640230 - 06/17/03 06:54 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry, but that is not a Panaeolus subbalteatus. The gill structure/color, stem color/size and cap color/shape is not right.

It almost looks like a Panaeolus of some sort, also looks like a Mycena... sporeprint would help though.


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: angryshroom]
    #1640248 - 06/17/03 07:01 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That mushroom is definitely of the Panaeolus genus, and it almost looks active to me for some reason. In the one pic of the stem you can see some sort of bruising going on, not blue, and it doens't mean much. The cap coloration looks dark and is lacking a white band around the outer margin for it to be a subb. And it doesn;t look like campanulatus or sphinctrinus, and its definitely not a foe, maybe fimicola or a similar species? I dunno?


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: Lizard King]
    #1640778 - 06/17/03 11:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hey guys, i really apologize for not posting the spore print color. I assumed the pics were clear enough to easily identify it. I placed the mushroom in the fridge and it very quickly deteriorated. I'll keep an eye on the spot that they were poppin up, and try to get one next time. Once again i really apologize for the lack of information. Thank you to all that responded.


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: Floydseamus]
    #1641110 - 06/18/03 01:16 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

DAmmit, why does no one think its a casten, it looks so much like it.


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Re: Shroom found right by afoaf's outdoor patch [Re: tranced2]
    #1641825 - 06/18/03 11:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

yes, it could very well be a P. castaneifolius. castans are almost identical macroscopically to foens except for the spore color and color of the mature gills, which are both black.

that is definately a Panaeolus. P. fimicola has a dingy gray to black cap with slight reddish hues. it also tends to be found more on soil or soil mixed with dung than in grassy lawns. it is more of a 'wild' shroom than P. castan.

i would say it is P. castaneifolius, especially because of the slight bruising at the base of the stem, which the species often exhibits when pulled out of the ground.


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