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Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN)
    #1634880 - 06/15/03 10:51 AM (21 years, 9 days ago)



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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: grib]
    #1634931 - 06/15/03 11:21 AM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Yeah it's bullshit. I know how easily people can be manipulated about stuff like that. I never touched a drug or partied until I got into college (luckily college can overcome all your inhibitions and other stuff). One of the reasons I never really tried drugs was because I didn't know anything about them. And if your only source of drug "facts" is from a 30 second ad on tv saying how drugs are the worst thing since Hitler, then you're pretty much screwed. I noticed that there are more and more anti-drug commercials than ever. I'll see one almost every other commercial break. Something tells me they are getting really desperate. These kids are our future. The more they get brainwashed, the better they are off. Since prohibition isn't really getting results, all they need is brainwashing to lower drug use. Then they'll pat themselves on the back and say what a great job prohibition is doing.

When is reefer madness going to end?

Edited by babytripster (06/15/03 11:30 AM)

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1635041 - 06/15/03 12:31 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

That's why it's everyone's responsability to get the word out that the government lies. If these kids continue into adulthood believing the lies, then we don't have a chance in fixing the problem.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1635325 - 06/15/03 03:08 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

nah......i think its the responsibilty to get the TRUTH out. the gov doesnt lie. it gives one extreme view.....just like most users give the other. If you spread the sugar, dont forget the spice.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: erjone]
    #1635386 - 06/15/03 03:48 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

Creating false facts and distorted statistics is lying .

"Marijuana kills brain cells."

"Most heavy marijuana users get cancer at the age of 26."

"Marijuana has no medical value."

The government has been making up lies about drugs for 70 years, and they are still at it.

But no, you shouldn't fight lies with more lies. We don't have to. The truth is on our side.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1635633 - 06/15/03 05:33 PM (21 years, 9 days ago)

I dont understand!!
WHHYYY?~!?!

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: DailyPot]
    #1636200 - 06/15/03 10:52 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

compare the u.s. government to te
catholic church.

they both know that a few of their
policies and very, very wrong

but admitting any wrongdoing tarnishes
their 'credibility' and people who have
this blind faith in them may start to
question their other aspects.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1636209 - 06/15/03 10:56 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

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I noticed that there are more and more anti-drug commercials than ever.




True, and I've noticed the advertising for recruitment in the military (USA) is higher than ever also.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: zandorf]
    #1636220 - 06/15/03 11:01 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

continuing a failed pointless war in the hope that no one will notice doesn't help the gov't's credibility much.

we've got a war on pot because the sad truth is that most americans support it. a politician would lose votes, not gain them, by trying to change the laws right now.

people've got to change their minds first. it won't be long now i think... depends on how things go up north.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1636239 - 06/15/03 11:12 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

i was providing an explanation
not an excuse


and yeah i can't beleived i forgot
the 'moral majority' factor.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: zandorf]
    #1637371 - 06/16/03 12:39 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

I just find the ad beside the article with the picture of the "loose your tummy" and a women showing her near anorexic stomach ironic...


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1637460 - 06/16/03 01:20 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

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we've got a war on pot because the sad truth is that most americans support it. a politician would lose votes, not gain them, by trying to change the laws right now.



But why :confused: Why did it ever get to this?
Its not fair, we're born into a world where we believe drugs are bad, it such bull shit :mad:

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: DailyPot]
    #1637845 - 06/16/03 03:54 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

Man, this is the way it has ALWAYS been.  Ever sinse humans have lived in societies... a group or groups are singled out and persecuted for the faults of the community, and as long as the blame is away form the majority people are happy...its nothing new... :frown:


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1638053 - 06/16/03 05:33 PM (21 years, 8 days ago)

theres also the fact that the drug war generates billions of dollars in revenue for this country. Think about how many unemployed people there would be in the corrections department if drugs were legal. Thats only the tip of the iceberg.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: erjone]
    #1638439 - 06/16/03 08:56 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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theres also the fact that the drug war generates billions of dollars in revenue for this country. Think about how many unemployed people there would be in the corrections department if drugs were legal. Thats only the tip of the iceberg.




Grow them, and tax the shit out of them like cigarettes or alcohol, and not only would you employ those people, you'd generate revenue for the Gov't.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Sev]
    #1638456 - 06/16/03 09:04 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

yeah.....but it doesnt compare to the profits of illegal drugs revenue

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: erjone]
    #1638541 - 06/16/03 09:30 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

There must be something we don't know. Like maybe the economy would collapse or something. Do you actually think the government doesn't know what would happen if they legalized? I think the drug laws have little to do with the actual drugs and taking them. I haven't really put much thought in the implicatiosn but for one thing all of the black market drug dealers lose their jobs. I have no idea how many drug dealers there actually are in the US, but there are probably a lot more than you think. I'm really not sure how spending goes, but police and other agencies would have a hell of a lot less to do with their time. Maybe they could go after real criminals for a change. The DEA would be gone. That's a lot of jobs gone. I don't think the US government is actually stupid. They know prohibition doesn't get rid of drugs. Wouldn't you like to know the real reasons prohibition exists? There's probably a lot we don't know.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1638743 - 06/17/03 01:14 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Do you actually think the government does know what would happen if they legalized?


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1638766 - 06/17/03 01:26 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

babytripster......you hit the nail right on the head! and thats only the begining. there are SO MANY things that would face economic backlash due to drug legalization.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1638823 - 06/17/03 02:02 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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Baby_Hitler said:
Do you actually think the government does know what would happen if they legalized?




Well to a certain degree they can guess what could be a few outcomes. There's no telling what complete legalization could do. Complete drug legalization in the US is so unlikely that it seems like it would happen the same day Jesus Christ returned.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1639063 - 06/17/03 06:24 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

I think the War on Drugs is not about drugs, it is about power. I just started reading a book called "Reefer Madness" by Eric Schlosser, who also wrote "Fast Food Nation". He explains the way that the underground economy of drugs helps the US, economically and politically. I've only just started the book, but what I have read already confirms all of my fears about the War on Drugs. I also saw on the news that several Eropean countries have signed an agreement with the US to swiftly extradite criminals that the US wants badly, i.e. "terrorists" and "drug traffickers" Frighteningly enough, a Dutch taxi driver, father of several young children, who sold some tabs of E to Americans vacationing in Amsterdam (who then went and imported them into the US) is now being extradited to stand trial in the States, for "violating US laws" even though he was not in America at the time the crime was allegedly committed! In Holland, he would probably not have to go to jail for that sort of thing, maybe for a short time with a lot of community service time. In the States, he could be in there for years for such a stupid thing.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: champ]
    #1639373 - 06/17/03 10:09 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

drug laws also hold down the free thought free speach counter culture movement..

most people who do drugs tend be alot more free thinking than those who dont, or the ones i know anyway. and if we can stifle that attitude, and make the country think theyre wrong because theyre criminals, its that much easier to maintain the status quo.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1639420 - 06/17/03 10:39 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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There must be something we don't know. Like maybe the economy would collapse or something





no, it wouldn't collapse, but it would become more socialisitic.

Weed is the biggest cash crop there ever was, worth more then its weight in gold in many places. Plus its medicin.

Phizer would have a hell of a time selling prozac if people could jsut grow their own pot. Its a better medicin for many many things, and you can just grow it, and its easy to grow. Unlike the dangerous sythedic medicins that they can only make in labs, and slap patents on, it would be much more difficult (nearly impossable) to corner the pot market. (it jsut wouldn't work)

Also is the bater system. A friend of mine who grew, could go snowboarding for free anytime he wanted. Rent a snowboard, slip the guy a nugg, get a lift ticket, slip the guy a nugg. Barter is untaxable transaction, the goverment hates that. They want to steal a little bit everytime we spend, with pot as currency, its not possable for them to do that.

Miller, budwiser, all the ahrd alc companies would lose money with pot decriminialized, or even worse, legal.

Next to military, the most profetable industry in this country right now is jail constuction. Marijana users make up a HUGE sum of those incarserated, and the number keeps going up. We won't be able to keep building new prisons if weed is legal, tehy'll be no one to fill them. IN fact if we let all the weed user out, we'd have too many jails, and half empty jails, what about those wardens, and guards, what are they going to do for work?
How about the DEA agents? what about them? they'll be out of jobs as well, and there's tons of them.
and the Mafia, they won't be able to profet on their shagg anymore, cause everyone will be growing good buds.

there are too many people making too much money for things to change. To keep their money they will be as evil as need be.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1639431 - 06/17/03 10:46 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

hahaha. thanks. i needed a laugh.

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: RadioActiveSlug]
    #1639505 - 06/17/03 11:33 AM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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They want to steal a little bit everytime we spend, with pot as currency,....




One could only imagine.... :laugh:


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: ]
    #1640074 - 06/17/03 03:46 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

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Miller, budwiser, all the ahrd alc companies would lose money with pot decriminialized, or even worse, legal.




I'll have to agree with that one. Alcoholic beverage industry lobbyists want weed to stay illegal, and buy alot of politicians to keep it that way.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1640169 - 06/17/03 04:33 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

How can people accept drug laws?...well i guess if you've never tried it, and all you hear is the ads....but still....



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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: Azmodeus]
    #1640278 - 06/17/03 05:16 PM (21 years, 7 days ago)

Because you're born into a world where drugs = devil. This keeps lots of people away making drug users a minority. In a democracy majority rules.

I think I finally understand...its still cheap brain washing bull shit but I understand.

Also I dont think beer would go down too much, you still need it for football games and parties and some other stuff. Also non-smokers etc. And (hopefully wont get flamed) as fun as getting high is I still prefer alcohol :frown:

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: DailyPot]
    #1642656 - 06/18/03 03:29 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

Ah yes, well your in florida, so that explains why you would prefer alcohal over a nice nug. :rasta:


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: grib]
    #1642961 - 06/18/03 05:28 PM (21 years, 6 days ago)

God, I just love the Partnership For A Drug Free America's "logic". Drug usage goes down for a few months so it must be because of their TV ads. They failed to mention that drug trends rise and fall quickly and it has nothing to do with their propaganda.

It's kind of funny in a way because everytime druge usage drops,they claim victory,but when drug use rises,they're no where to be found.Example-marijuana and LSD usage fell sharply in the 80's so they claimed a great victory,even though that launched a gigantic anti cocaine/crack campaign and cocaine usage almost tripled within five years.


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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: monoamine]
    #1644368 - 06/19/03 10:31 AM (21 years, 5 days ago)

lol the war on drugs cant 'win'

drugs win

drug availiablity drops
prices go up
crime rates go up
criminals gain more power

drug availablity raises
drug prices drop
drug quantity and quality go up
drug users go up
criminals gain more power


and at the end the only way to win is to take the power from the crimianls, that cant be done by fighting or relaxing on drug, the only way is legalization

or an extreme amount of force which will have to take out the existance of drugs but this would have to end up doing more bad than it ever will good

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Re: Study: Teen anti-drug ads make impact (CNN) [Re: DailyPot]
    #1644383 - 06/19/03 10:35 AM (21 years, 5 days ago)

Wise words.


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