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other species roundup
    #1634597 - 06/15/03 07:01 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

after a lot of cubensis growing, and plenty of reading, i'm planning my next grow. i have only an indoors, and the UK is too cold most of the time for an outdoor guerilla grow. this is what i came up with - please comment / advise / correct any errors:

active non-cubes that can be grown:

:laugh:psilocybe mexicana - indoors, also makes scerotia. not too difficult. ?potency
:laugh:psilocybe azurescens / cyanascens - outdoors only. difficult. indoor-outdoor claims unproven. v. potent.
:laugh:panaeolus subbalteanas - ?outdoors only. ?easy ?potency
:laugh:panaeolus cyanascens (= copelandia cyanascens) - can be done indoors. difficult. tiny but extremely potent.
:laugh:panaeolus tropicanas - as for pan. cyans?

is this accurate? have i missed out any obvious candidates? and are there any recommendations for an easy indoor start with the edibles? i plan to try the pan cyans out (and some oysters) and will begin compiling info as my mycelium grows. does anyone particularly advise against spawning into poo, rather than including it in a brf-based substrate?

sk :cool:xxx   


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Re: other species roundup [Re: shirley knott]
    #1634611 - 06/15/03 07:14 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

You could try also Psilocybe tampanensis. It's similar to P. mexicana.
Psilocybe azurescens & cyanescens are not so hard to grow outdoors. They're wood lovers and need low temperatures to fruit - so being in UK shouldn't be a problem.
Since you were very successful with cubes I think you'll have no problems with pan cyans. Good luck!


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Re: other species roundup [Re: zeronio]
    #1634678 - 06/15/03 09:28 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Shirley, I too am a UK resident. Mind if I ask you where you buy your spores from? I get mine from mushmush, but getting euros is a bit of a pisser... do you know any reliable UK spore suppliers?


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Re: other species roundup [Re: OJK]
    #1635214 - 06/15/03 04:23 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

hi there, tediumaddict. i get my spores from the free spore ring europe (send them a US dollar bill or a 1 euro coin on a bit of card, and a request in an envelope to holland, and include an envelope addressed back to your delivery address, and bob's your uncle) : visit this and other rings at http://www.fsre.org/fsrportal.htm  and remember to send prints back afterwards.

or in London, you can buy them over the counter, as prints or syringes, in some headshops. or go to the trading forum here at the shroomery, and ask.

*bump* my question - any advice on a next species? :laugh: 


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Re: other species roundup [Re: shirley knott]
    #1635245 - 06/15/03 04:40 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hi Shirley  :smile:

P. Subaeruginosa are cold wood lovers.. I've got some prints but am waiting until Autumn to try them out on an outdoor bed..  :tongue:


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1635251 - 06/15/03 04:42 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

hmmm, am i thinking of a different species with my 'subbalteanas' or did i just make the word up, thinking of that lot you mentioned?

thanks for the input, biotek :smile: 


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Re: other species roundup [Re: shirley knott]
    #1635257 - 06/15/03 04:47 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

subbalteatus

subb alt eat us.


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1635310 - 06/15/03 05:05 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

lolzz BH !!!  :grin:

Panaeolus subbalteatus can be found in cow pastures and dung on MaunaKea, Hawaii and Haleakala, Maui as far as I know...

Panaeolus subbalteatus

(Red Caps)

CAP : Red brown to white when dry, conic to flat bands of colors
GILLS : Close, red gray to gray black, white edges
STEM : White to brown, hollow and stringy, no bluing
HABITAT : Rotted hay, compost piles and manure
SEASON : April through September


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1635335 - 06/15/03 05:14 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Panaeolus subbalteatus can be found from South America all the way into Canada. They have the widest range of any active species.

They refuse to not grow.


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1635352 - 06/15/03 05:24 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

are they any good? to look at, to consume, to learn from? or am i wasting my time / space doing them indoors?


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Re: other species roundup [Re: shirley knott]
    #1635363 - 06/15/03 05:32 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I don't know that much about them Shirley but on a google search it said they were roughly the same potency as p. cubensis by dried weight.


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Re: other species roundup [Re: shirley knott]
    #1635367 - 06/15/03 05:35 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

For indoors go with the Panaeolus cyanascens.
As you did straw/poo tecs with cubensis you should be fine with pan cyans :-)
I have spawned some to fermentedpoo/straw and all seems to be going well.

Casing in the week, and fruiting (with fingers crossed) the next week ;-)


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Paid]
    #1635381 - 06/15/03 05:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hey Paid, you gonna send me some of those Coprinus comatus or what lolzz ?!  :tongue:


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Bi0TeK]
    #1635383 - 06/15/03 05:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

lol, np, i seem to have 15 spare culture plates :-) how many you wont? lol


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Paid]
    #1635387 - 06/15/03 05:48 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

p.s ssshhhhh, shirl was on holiday for that thread lol :tongue:


edit:  :-)  i grew ink caps, i'm so proud :-) lol


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Re: other species roundup [Re: Paid]
    #1635391 - 06/15/03 05:50 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:laugh:

I'll PM you shortly !  :tongue:


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