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CounterCulturest
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Was I deceived into taking liquid 25i ? those with experience, please give input.
#16338677 - 06/05/12 10:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have taken LSD 60+ times. They have always been almost exactly the same with just minor differences. Whether that was from crystal quality or strictly set and setting, I don't know and I'm not really worried about it. I have had times where I thought "the acid was dirty" but then the following week I dosed from the same vial but was more adamant about keeping hydrated and stretched my body and treated it well and magically the acid felt "clean".
I believe I know what acid is and what it feels like. The different trips set and setting can induce etc. Ive been dosing regularly for about 4 years. Lots of different strengths and mediums.
A few weeks ago I was with a friend who had 3 amber vials. Two of them were just barely purchased. The other one I had taken multiple hits from on a few occasions. It was LSD. The liquid in that vial was as clear as liquid gets. These other two vials weren't as clear. The closer I looked at the liquid inside I noticed that there were visible particles in there. The whole thing was a bit cloudy. What I imagine was a chemical that wasn't fully dissolved. (so far into my investigation i think it was 25i or some other nbome).
Clue #1 The vial was murky. Has anyone ever seen a cloudy vial of LSD ???
The trip:
I took 3 hits of this stuff. It came on like LSD. Maybe a big faster, like 20 minutes. At first I thought "sweet. strong dose always kicks in fast". The come up was identical to acid. But as the trip went on, something just wasn't right. It wasn't like the acid I was used to. But I keep an open mind because I know psychedelics can give different results. As the trip goes on I realize that this stuff is lacking the introspective and revelation like thinking patterns that acid has ALWAYS givin me.
About an hour into it a headache starts to creep up on me. It never left. Despite drinking lots of water and eventually running to some ibuprofen for some help with no avail.
About the same time the headache started I noticed my heart was beating faster than LSD gets my heart pumping and it stayed like this the entire trip. Uncomfortably fast. On top of this I had to focus on breathing the whole trip. It reminded me of mescaline. More of an amphetamine effect than acid has. Acid also energizes me like crazy. But in the most pleasant of ways and this was nothing like the energy I'm used to LSD giving me.
The trip lasted about 6 hours and I was probably glowing for about 12 hours. I dosed at 3pm and I didn't wind up sleeping that night. I've never taken LSD that didn't have me tripping for a solid 12 hours.
It was lacking visuals. What little it had, reminded me more of the comedown on mescaline rather than LSD. But at the same time they were like tryptamine visuals but the tracers and layering of my field of vision just screamed "phenethylamine" to me the entire trip. The only time I had the tryptamine-like visuals was during the peak.
The next two days I had a headache and I was brain dead. It fried me for a couple of weeks. When i went to drive to work I tried putting my key in the wrong side of the ignition. I couldn't figure out how to unlock the keyguard on my phone. I forgot my debit card pin# that I had been using for years. This stuff fucked me up good. I still have what falls into the description of HPPD (please, I'm not saying I have this so dont give me guff about it).
But I'll be looking at a wall and it begins to turn colors and the colors remain there no matter how long I look at it. When I close my eyes I see bright blue spots that "pop" in the bottom right corner of my eye. Ive never had this severe of effects from stuff. Ive had way bad tracers and criss crossing lines while sober for years now and have always enjoyed it. But the feeling that this stuff left me with just feels like it messed my brain up. Nothing like I have ever experienced before. It's what I have always imagined what taking to much 2ci would be like (from reports I have read on here)
My theory is that what I took was a low dose of 25i or some other nbome. Judging from the cloudy vial and the effects seem to fit it. I think since it's not quite as potent as acid since I took 3 hits (drops) that maybe I just took a low dose of that 25i.
Any help here on what I might have taken ?
I have ruled out DOx, LSD and 2Cx. Or should I have not ?
Thanks. Any input would be great.
I'm not talking this stuff down. Just my body happen to not agree with it. I could tell though that at the peak that the drug I was on had some potential. But from the negative effects I got I just don't think that it is a high that I will be chasing.
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Re: Was I deceived into taking liquid 25i ? those with experience, please give input. [Re: CounterCulturest]
#16338717 - 06/05/12 10:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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That my friend was 2Ci. Symptoms and trip were identical to mine. Extreme tachycardia to the point of discomfort doing anything too fast. Headaches and insomnia. Whatever they said it was, it wasn't. I personally had a shitty time with 2Ci and would never do it again. The visuals were kinda cheeky and fun but the symptoms and side effects made it not even worth it.
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Re: Was I deceived into taking liquid 25i ? those with experience, please give input. [Re: CounterCulturest]
#16338719 - 06/05/12 10:38 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have seen liquid 25i and it's not cloudy. I can't think of a situation in which it would be unless the solution was supersaturated in which case the dosage in would drop would be rather large and variable. Also, it's not bio-available unless it is complexed which means you would have had to hold the liquid under your tongue for some period of time to get effects. Your experience doesn't sound strikingly like a 25i trip based upon my experience. I have taken it many times and I've never experienced this "brain frying" effect. One thing that is characteristic of 25i is a long plateau with a somewhat sharp comedown, so that could be a clue.
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Edited by JoieDeVivre (06/05/12 10:39 PM)
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CounterCulturest
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Re: Was I deceived into taking liquid 25i ? those with experience, please give input. [Re: TimeLapse]
#16338796 - 06/05/12 10:54 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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JoieDeVivre said: I have seen liquid 25i and it's not cloudy. I can't think of a situation in which it would be unless the solution was supersaturated in which case the dosage in would drop would be rather large and variable. Also, it's not bio-available unless it is complexed which means you would have had to hold the liquid under your tongue for some period of time to get effects. Your experience doesn't sound strikingly like a 25i trip based upon my experience. I have taken it many times and I've never experienced this "brain frying" effect. One thing that is characteristic of 25i is a long plateau with a somewhat sharp comedown, so that could be a clue.
Oh and to add. I take back the "cloudy" part. I had to CLOSELY examine it to see the particles. A few feet away from a lightbulb while squinting. Just looking at it you wouldn't notice any of the particles.
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TimeLapse said:
Thanks. Do you think 2ci is potent enough to give a light dose in 3 drops of liquid ? and have a trip that was12 hours including the after glow ?
I always thought the 2c's were short and to the point and didn't really linger. Accept the whole possible hppd effects. I know once my 2cb trips are done, they are DONE. You really think it just might be 2ci ?
The whole situation really left a bitter taste in my mouth. I'm DOWN for drugs but only when I know what they are ya know ? That my friend was 2Ci. Symptoms and trip were identical to mine. Extreme tachycardia to the point of discomfort doing anything too fast. Headaches and insomnia. Whatever they said it was, it wasn't. I personally had a shitty time with 2Ci and would never do it again. The visuals were kinda cheeky and fun but the symptoms and side effects made it not even worth it.
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Re: Was I deceived into taking liquid 25i ? those with experience, please give input. [Re: CounterCulturest]
#16338863 - 06/05/12 11:10 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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How did it taste? Did it make your tongue numb completely or only partially?
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CounterCulturest
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Re: Was I deceived into taking liquid 25i ? those with experience, please give input. [Re: nooneman]
#16339297 - 06/06/12 01:42 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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It numbed my tongue for what seemed like 30 or so minutes. Not my entire mouth, just the spot where it landed. Like the size of a nickel on my tongue maybe ?
It didn't really have a bitter taste. A little bit at the very most.
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