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Invisible1stimer
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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Dogomush]
    #1635065 - 06/15/03 12:48 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

In the ideal world everybody would have an aquarium and a grow-light in their closet, and avoid scummy drug dealers.





Since the world isnt ideal we have to rely on "scum bag" drug dealers.
you are bigoted and ignorant.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: bivalve]
    #1635388 - 06/15/03 03:48 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

bivalve:

this is a ridiculous argument, because you are disregarding the truth for opinion.

crown corporations are a socialist endevour, just because the word "socialist" is used, does not mean it refers to marxist/leninist dogma. Socialism has evolved over time, and can now be seperated from its theoretical roots. Heres an example:

once upon a time there was a country named china, there was a revolution in this country lead by a man named mao zedong, who was adhered, almost religiously to leninist philosophy, and consequently, that is how china's economic political system was managed. But....over time, things change, it came apparent that strict leninist-style politics wasnt working, so instead of being fully communist, china started to become more capitalist, and then we arrive at the 21st century, where china's economy is now reffered to as market socialism. In china's current state, their is no intention of reverting back to full-scale communism, thusly---they have transcended marxist dogma.

so, the moral of this story is that, all things evolve, and just because a government has socialist elements, does not mean they adhere to marxist dogma. Modern day socialism comes in many forms, and it is rooted in the idea of government controlling aspects of the economy. And yes, socialism and capitalism can obviously co-exist, to say that they cant is ignorant.

ex- the scandinavian welfare state/social democracy


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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1635390 - 06/15/03 03:49 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

1stimer: so are you anti-drug laws or pro-drug dealer? you cant really reconcile the two beliefs.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1635401 - 06/15/03 03:56 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

so what your saying is that you don't like people who grow weed because they use up too much electricity doing it?

also: is electricity free in your area? if not, it's not socialism. if it is free, then it is socialism, and what you're bitching about is one of the faults of a shitty system.

i'd be interested to see the percentage of electricity in your area that goes towards marijuana cultivation.

Edited by mushmaster (06/15/03 04:02 PM)

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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1635405 - 06/15/03 03:59 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Yes you can.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: ]
    #1635423 - 06/15/03 04:03 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

also: is electricity free in your area? if not, it's not socialism. if it is free, then it's socialism, and what you're bitching about is one of the faults of a shitty system.




Nothing is free. Not even in a socialist system. At some point someone has put time and energy into whatever product you are recieving.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: z@z.com]
    #1635436 - 06/15/03 04:09 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

i understand that. what i mean is does he pay for it with his taxes or a bill based on how much he uses.

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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1635542 - 06/15/03 04:51 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

You wouldn't call a steak a "cow," right?
"A steak and a cow are made of the same
things, though! A cow becomes a steak!"
But they're really two completely different
things. "But! They're--" Yes, okay, go
ahead and call it a "cow," even if it's
not really a cow.

Call anything you want "socialist." But
you're still an enemy of the working
class.

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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: ]
    #1635544 - 06/15/03 04:52 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I know that you know that, but some people here seem to think that you can get stuff for free. I was simply pointing out (once again) that this is not the case.


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"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniencies attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: ]
    #1635552 - 06/15/03 04:55 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Since the world isnt ideal we have to rely on "scum bag" drug dealers.
you are bigoted and ignorant.


Ignorant about what? Drug dealers? In the fall I could go walking in the woods and collect thousands of pounds of marijuana in an hour with no prior scouting missions to find the plantations. I live among them, so uh how could I possibly be ignorant?

Bigoted? What I like is that you just throw out these titles aimed at discrediting me without adressing any of my points. Looks like you're trying to convince yourself that I'm a jerk and you're in the right.. probably because you sell pot.

It's funny how people who are into drugs blindly get behind their suppliers and worship them. I guess it's the same when a stupid athlete worships Nike and wears the swoosh all over themselves.

As for the world being ideal.. you're right it's not, but that doesn't mean we can't supply ourselves with our own drugs. Or at least when we buy drugs from people, we shouldn't lie to ourselves. We should be realistic about where our pot is coming from. Pot growers are untrusting, suspicious, paranoid people who will do whatever it takes to get their crop in (as I demonstrated with my story who's point you ignored). They are not heroic robin hoods as some like to believe.

Anyway, have fun lying to yourself, you ignorant fool.


mushmaster...

you didn't read the article did you? Yes the bill is based on how much electricity you use, but that's not his problem. His problem is that these growers in the article had found a way to steal electricity from the system without getting charged for it. That's his issue.

Edited by Dogomush (06/15/03 04:56 PM)

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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Dogomush]
    #1635587 - 06/15/03 05:10 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

I don't mind drug dealers, but I don't care for thieves.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1635595 - 06/15/03 05:13 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: ]
    #1635874 - 06/15/03 08:46 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

mushmaster: also: is electricity free in your area? if not, it's not socialism. if it is free, then it's socialism, and what you're bitching about is one of the faults of a shitty system.

hahahaha, yeah, things are "free" in socialism, okay, are you on summer break from junior high?

a statement like that indicates that you dont know shit, read a book. You have a very demented perspective on what socialism is, i dont even want to say this again...but like i said: a government can have socialist aspects as well as capitalist aspects, that is a fact that is demonstrated in many current governments: denmark, canada, china ETC ETC ETC.


bivalve: "Call anything you want "socialist." But
you're still an enemy of the working
class."

-you dont know anything about modern politics, all you are doing is citing archaic communist theory.

come up with something intelligable, or this will be my last post on this thread.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Dogomush]
    #1635991 - 06/15/03 09:32 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Drug dealers bring in lots of money to the province which comes from the U.S. And it is the Vietnamese who are doing a large part of the operations. Grow ops have been a great resource and I am glad we have them. The violence that comes from the gow ops stays within the drug dealers anyways,I can think of a lot of worse things then stealing power.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1636154 - 06/15/03 10:28 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

you need to cool off a bit because you're getting a little personal there funksoldier.

maybe you are so defensive because you just realized the ridiculousness of the prospect that marijuana cultivation is causing a serious drain on BC's energy supply and is a major contributing factor in the construction of more environmentally-unfriendly dams. no?

maybe instead of saying, "you don't know shit, read a book", you'd do me a favor explain to me how electricity is produced and distributed in your area, and the definition of 'socialism' as you understand it. while your at it, can we have a rough estimate of the percentage of BC's energy supply that goes into producing marijuana?

P.S. i have no sympathy for theives (or child molesters, dogomush). i've got no problem with drug dealers.

Edited by mushmaster (06/15/03 10:43 PM)

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Offlineatomikfunksoldier
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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: ]
    #1636266 - 06/15/03 11:43 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

okokokok. no worries.

my point was, socialism is malleable, the insults were added for stylistic purposes, it wasnt really a personal attack.

sirtripsalot: are you sure that you know enough about gang economics to say that the profits they make go back into our economy. im quite sure alot of the money gets filtered back to vietnam, at least, thats what a vietnamese friend of mine says, but it could be different for different gangs.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1636562 - 06/16/03 02:19 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Out of the Vancouver Sun:

B.C. -- A POT-FRIENDLY, POT-PROFITABLE PROVINCE

News flash: A new poll has found British Columbia is the most pot-friendly province in Canada.

This will come as no surprise to anyone who remembers the flower-power era of the 1960s, when Vancouver was the Canadian equivalent of hippie mecca San Francisco. Out of the haze of the Easter Be-Ins and psychedelic music scene emerged a B.C. pot culture that has only grown en stronger over the years.

Pot has become an entrenched part of the provincial economy. Depending on who you talk to, growing marijuana is a $1-billion to $8-billion business in British Columbia. Some argue it contributes more to the economy than forestry.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1636577 - 06/16/03 02:30 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

thats awesome, good stuff. except for the fact that drugdealers dont get taxed and dont pay for their power, and most the money is funnelled to places outside of BC.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1636656 - 06/16/03 03:45 AM (20 years, 9 months ago)

where do you find that?
These people are buying 5 houses in a row in one caul-de-sac. Driving expensive cars and buying all the expensive clothing and luxeries they want which helps these various businesses(which do tax). I really think the power stealing you think is going on you are blowing way out of proportion, the worst I have heard is the fire risk and occasisional blackouts that may occur.


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Edited by sir tripsalot (06/16/03 03:48 AM)

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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: sir tripsalot]
    #1637345 - 06/16/03 12:28 PM (20 years, 9 months ago)

Energy drain isn't the problem...
And im sure if they could consume that much and pay for it without looking suspiscious...they would. :laugh:

But you have "good" dealers...and "bad". some will sell anything for anyprice to get some cash, and others distribute it for free smokage and to spread it among those who want to smoke it....you cant generalise.


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