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Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC
    #1633559 - 06/14/03 07:27 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

check it out

Well, it's not so bad, cause I have no sympathy for drug dealers, so I don't mind. I just don't want it to get to the point that they sieze my car cause some bud crumbs are on the floor. Interesting developments.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Dogomush]
    #1633587 - 06/14/03 07:44 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

drug dealers who steal hydro power get no sympathy from me, they really fuck things up for the rest of us, and the ENVIROMENT.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Dogomush]
    #1633689 - 06/14/03 08:36 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

what's wrong with drug dealers?


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: ]
    #1633713 - 06/14/03 09:13 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

they steal hydro power, which fucks up our socialist energy system, and drives up power prices, puts more stress on the environment (through a lack of power=we need to build more power facilities), they put our socialist system in danger, and make it easy for fuck-head politicians to force privatization of hydro-power. brah brah brah. cocksuckers.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Dogomush]
    #1633715 - 06/14/03 09:14 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

i have no sympathy for you. whats wrong with drug-dealers?


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: 1stimer]
    #1633729 - 06/14/03 09:21 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

good for you numbnuts, come to my city, where you have to deal with the political consequences of the actions of greedy drug dealers who steal power from a socialist power institution.

do you know how socialism works? its like a big pot of food, and we all get an equal share, but if some greedy drug dealer comes in and steals a bunch of food just so he/she can make alot of money, that makes the rest of us go hungry.

whats wrong with drugdealers (in the context of this article? they are filthy capitalists.

dont be so simplistic, try to think outside your ideology.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1633797 - 06/14/03 10:04 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I don't have any problem with drug dealers or gamblers, but in order for someone to win somebody else has to lose. It's how the game works.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1633828 - 06/14/03 10:23 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

(Please don't claim to be a socialist
because you like getting cheap energy
from Crown Corporations.

Please don't try to explain socialism
with crude analogies involving pots of
food.)

Aren't you a filthy capitalist, too?



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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: bivalve]
    #1633869 - 06/14/03 10:50 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

bivalve: heres an idea, lets twist peoples statements!

i never said I was a socialist, I said BC Hydro is a socialist institution, because it is, and when drug dealers are stealing power from a socialist institution run by my government, they are stealing from me.

i dont buy their product, which most likely sucks, so in no way does their operation benifit me, all it does is cost me money---indirectly.

and please elaborate as to how I am a filthy capitalist, your whole statement reeks of mediocracy....make a definitive point or dont bother attacking my arguments...ever again.



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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1633881 - 06/14/03 10:57 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Those people import lots of American dollars into the Canadian economy and their product is pretty good.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1633898 - 06/14/03 11:07 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

really, vietnamese drug dealers from surrey make a good product?, oh....what the fuck do I know.......I guess ive been subject to misinformation, sorry, i guess I dont know anything about vancouver marijuana.

but, since you go to surrey and buy weed from vietnamese gang-bangers, Ill trust that you have really good taste in chronic.






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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1633931 - 06/14/03 11:35 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

1. I don't think it's really something to debate.
It's not very hard stuff.

There's nothing really socialist about a corporation
that exists under a capitalist system, is there? Even
crown corporations. They "in no respect affect the
relations between capital and labor, but, at the best,
lessen the cost, and simplify the administrative
work of bourgeois government."

2. People who use the phrase "filthy capitalist"
and say "socialist" a lot, usually think they're
some kind of socialist. (You are a garden variety
radical who calls public corporations "socialist =
you are a reactionary = you are a filthy capitalist.)


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1633970 - 06/14/03 11:48 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Well, I mean no Canadian weed will ever be as good as American weed. What I meant was it's not that bad.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1634075 - 06/15/03 12:39 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

bivalve: There's nothing really socialist about a corporation
that exists under a capitalist system, is there? Even
crown corporations. They "in no respect affect the
relations between capital and labor, but, at the best,
lessen the cost, and simplify the administrative
work of bourgeois government."

mmmmmm, lets see whats on my dissection table today:

1-There's nothing really socialist about a corporation
that exists under a capitalist system

how is canada a purely capitalist system if the government controls/owns large corporations? the answer? canada is a mixture of socialism and capitalism, some industrial firms are private, some are government owned, and the government regulary intervenes in the economy.

2-Even crown corporations. They in no respect affect the
relations between capital and labor.

really, so...you believe that a crown corporation functions in the exact same way as a privately owned corporation? wrong. a private corporation's main interest is profits, a crown-corporation's main interest is serving its owners: the canadian public, which also consequently effects the working conditions of those employed by a crown corporation.

3-simplify the administrative work of bourgeois government.

so let me understand your logic, if the government contains various crown corporations, which means it has way more work to do than a purely capitalist government, it will simplify the work? how so, from my perspective, it complicates the administrative work.

i think you are confusing marxist dogma with canadian capitalist/socialism.

amazingly enough, the two can co-exist.




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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: atomikfunksoldier]
    #1634295 - 06/15/03 02:51 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

Socialism = "Marxist dogma."

"Canadian capitalist/socialism" = what's
left of the welfare state.

The NDP is no more socialist than the
Canadian Alliance.

Capitalism and socialism can't co-exist,
unless your definition of socialism is
universal healthcare and the-only-thing-
you-need-to-survive-is-a-mailbox-ism.
Because I'm not saying, "Yes, a crown
corporation is exactly the same as any
other corporation! And Canada has no
elements of the modern welfare state!"

Crown corporations and poor people getting
cheques in the mail-- that's not just a
friendly gesture. It's not socialist. It's
what you have to do to stop your government
from not being a government anymore.

A long time ago everyone in the world was
really poor for about ten years. And then
there was a war. And after the war everyone
who was really rich and powerful before the
war was rich and powerful again and they
decided that they didn't want to be poor
again. And they read The General Theory
of Employment, Interest Rates and Money

and found out that they needed to nationalize
resources and mail cheques to people. They
thought "the existing state of society,
minus its revolutionary and disintegrating
elements" sounded really good. And there's
nothing very socialist about that. It's
"administrative reforms."

Crown corporations usually don't "simplify
the administrative work of bourgeois
government" anymore. It says: "at the best."
And they suck now and everyone wants to get
rid of them. They, just like all "administrative
reforms," still "in no respect affect the
relations between capital and labor." You
know?


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: bivalve]
    #1634341 - 06/15/03 03:11 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

whoa wait what bivalve is back?


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: zandorf]
    #1634377 - 06/15/03 03:24 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

!evlaviB nabnU


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1634766 - 06/15/03 11:13 AM (18 years, 7 months ago)

bh

give it to straight here brotha


what's going on??


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: zandorf]
    #1634884 - 06/15/03 12:53 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

drug dealers are scum. they take advantage of crappy laws to turn a profit for themselves.


Let me relate a story to you. It is called "drug dealers are scum" and it is a tale from the land of high quality pot grow ops.

Y'see I grew up in a pot-growing community. Years ago, there was some drama. Some children of a single mother were molested. The mother wanted to press charges. To do so she needed witnesses so she called on a friendly neighbour who was a friend of the family. However, the child molester had set up this man's watering system for his plants a few years back (the molester is a kind of handyman). So, rather than risk getting ratted on by the molester the witness decided against testifying. There was pressure from other neighbours to not get the case going because nobody wanted the police in the neighbourhood.

The child molester wasn't convicted and went on to molest more children until he was finally arrested and jailed many years later. That's why drug dealers are scum.

And remember that this isn't a white trash trailer dweller story. The characters in this story are people who's lives are rooted in groovy shit like "community consciousness" and "world peace". I'm sure they never thought they had to let an old man fuck little kids so they could get their money. These people are artists and people look up to them... pillars of the community who have decided they don't want to work for money because they've convinced themselves that it's the only way they can avoid contributing to the evil "system."




And why should anybody feel sympathy for drug dealers? They aren't trying to make the world a better place.. they aren't fighting for the liberalization of drug laws, they're just trying to make mad cash right now. If they get caught, then who cares? They knew what they were doing and should pay the consequences. In the ideal world everybody would have an aquarium and a grow-light in their closet, and avoid scummy drug dealers.


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Re: Canadian pigs sieze grow-op home for first time in BC [Re: Dogomush]
    #1635034 - 06/15/03 02:26 PM (18 years, 7 months ago)

I wouldn't lump all of them together like that. Some drug dealers are good people, though the higher up the chain you go, the more likely you are to fing "Drug lords". I'd rather those didn't exist.

We need more small time growers, and people growing thier own.


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